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Did Adam and Eve Exist, Or Did Evolution Get Us Here?

  1. Adam and Eve Did Exist and evolution never happened.

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  2. Adam and Eve didn't exist and Evolution is Why We Are Here Now.

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  3. Evolution DID Exist But Adam and Eve Were The First Humans To be Made By Evolution.

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  4. Other. (Explain Why You Chose this)

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  1. WoW Sucks

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    Well heres a few simple questions about the question in the title.

    How did we get here?
    Did Adam and Eve ever exist?
    Are we where we are because of evolution?
    Did god make the universe?

    You may add other things to your answer, these were just to help you.

    Some people who go to church might argue that evolution is wrong and that Adam and Eve existed.

    Well im going to add a Poll with the Adam and Eve/Evolution as another way to see your views.

    Well what are your views?
     
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    Errr, i doubt there were just 2 people on there own before every other life...
     
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    Evolution... Millions of years ago a big comet or whatever hit the earth... on the comets were bacteria the bacteria evolve to what we are now (Homo sapiens) <=- Thats just a theory but thats what i believe.

    Nope

    Yes.


    If god made the universe then who made god... If god was infinite then why can't the universe be infinite. What i believe is that the universe is infinite and there never was and never will be a god.

    And i don't believe in a book that is full of errors. Beside most people that believe in god didnt even read the bible or any Evolution theorys. Or history books.
     
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    Sigh. What a stupid poll. You've got Christian or half Christian on there.

    Evolution no. God no.

    It doesn't have to be understood, nothing fits the bill. I don't get why people need something, a place holder. They don't care that is wrong they just want something. Can't it be the mystery that it is? No theory fits the bill.

    And before you pseudo intelligent wannabes out there go "evolution does!", No it doesn't.

    If we evolved on this planet then we would not be the only intelligent life here. We would also have 2 billion years of continuous evidence of continuous evolution. Instead we have the evolution of apes, then a blank part which is too short anyway (the ‘missing link’), then the 'evolution of man' which is uncertain of itself. Its as though 4000 years ago we just arrived here, that’s about as far back as our history goes.

    This is like the big bang theory. What an absurd theory. We know nature doesn’t just spontaneously explode for no apparent reason but lets just pretend that’s how the universe came to be because we have measured things are moving away from us in the universe. Its mainstream bullshit. Its as worthless as day old meat, and about as appetizing. Learn to think for yourselves.

    People are idiots, mainstream science is full of idiots, mainstream medicine is full of idiots, government is full of idiots. Its official, the world is run by idiots. You wouldn’t listen to an idiot would you…
     
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    Autism FTW?
     
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    It is an absolute fact that one of us is an idiot.
     
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    Feel free to edit the poll. :)
     
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    Hm Adam and Eve all the way :))
     
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    Your so definate in your ansers, when you (everyone) really isnt sure how we came to be. I can try an argue both ways.

    Adam and Eve have had to be real, I mean someone wrote about them so somthing must be true. OR maybe Adam and eve was made up by some lucky man who found the coco plant

    According to the bible, God is existance. there was nothing before God and there will not be anything after him/her/it lol

    And as for you not believing in a book full of errors. Thats what science is based on, Errors. Guy who left bread out mold = ooh medicine. Science is trial and error.

    How much of the bible have you read to know its full of errors? I have read evolution theories, and some of them do make sence to me. I always think about GOD, and EVOLUTION.

    Im not sure wich one is true.

    And if you know, your just fooling yourself
     
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    evolution? well if it did exist then there would be no monkeys they would have evolved into humans, but if things stayed the same while some elovled where are the in-betweens? anser that plz...
     
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    How did we get here?
    Chemical reactions happened millions of years ago.
    Did Adam and Eve ever exist?
    No.
    Are we where we are because of evolution?
    Yes.
    Did god make the universe?
    There is no God.

    You obviously know NOTHING about evolution. Evolution doesn't happen to a species as a whole, it happens on a small scale. There aren't any true "in betweens" such as a half duck-half dog. The reason behind that is evolution is a slow, gradual process. The mutations have to be small enough for the animal to still survive. How would that latter combination survive? It would surely be too awkward to hunt for pray. And who would it mate with? Learn at least a little bit about something before you scrutinize it.

    Says who? The chances of us being the way we are, i.e. intelligent, are so unlikely in the first place, that for it to happen in another species would be almost impossible.

    If you are referring to our incomplete fossil record, the chances of a fossil forming are so low that we're lucky to have found what we have. I think that we will find more eventually, as we get to digging in new places, but the fact is that scientists are always finding out more and more about our past. Civilization as we know it, i.e. the start of technological advancements and such, have only been around for the past 2 or 300 hundred years. How can it be expected that in this short amount of time, we should have already found billions of years worth of fossils that are so unlikely to form? We can't just falsify the theory of evolution by incomplete evidence.

    I would have to agree with you that the Big Bang Theory, as least as most people believe it to be, probably isn't true. I do think that there might have been a singularity at some point, but I think that some nuclear force acted upon it in such a way that it expanded. I can empathize more with the Big Crunch Theory. Maybe our universe is just the remnant of another before it, and that all the energy was drawn together, and at one point, there was too much contained in the small space, and it "exploded".

    Do you think that just because someone wrote about Peter Pan that it was true? No, it was designed for entertainment. In the same way, these creation stories were just made up to explain things that no one could at the time. Also I believe you're referring to the coca plant, not the coco.

     
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    We evolved from simple celled organinisms many a year back.
    The universe was created from the big bang.
    There is no god, that idea is simply an excuse to avoid the unknown.
    Adam and Eve is bullshit.
    The church simply wants people to go so they get collection money.
    Call me what you want but its pretty much the truth.

    The inbetweens of evolution are mutations from previous organisms. Through Natural Selection the organisms genes select the most desirable trait and then when that organism reproduces that gene is passed on.
     
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    So I can write a book explaining how A flying speghettie monster is true? And everyone will believe me?

    Because books have to be true.
     
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    everyone basically has a different opinion about this so its pretty hard to come to an agreement.
     
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    I am sorry but I sincerely disagree with your statement and your signature.

    Atheism is a dangerous following and you will find that most philosophers and highly intelligent people steer clear of it.

    The reason it is dangerous is because it encourages and embodies an arrogant “we know everything” attitude and follows closely the backbone of mainstream science and medicine. This is a most foolish attitude and will end up being detrimental to the progress of humanity.

    As you may or may not know; every single great achievement which has built scientific and medical understanding today came from left field, not from the mainstream. Einstein, Tesla and Pasteur were all rubbished by the mainstream. They were bullied picked on, and had their funding cut. This is because the mainstream means/is the majority. And the majority isn’t the most intelligent nor the most open minded.

    The fact of the matter is no one knows what happens when we die. Mainstream science is more often then not wrong on unknown issues. Mainstream medicine would kill more people than it healed if not for the process of trial and error. And taking the attitude that we already know everything there is to know is both foolish and dangerous for the progress of humanity.

    I promote being agnostic in the sense of ‘I’ll believe it when/if I see it.’ Some people think agnosticism is directly linked to Christianity, I disagree. It can, and does, refer to all metaphysical concepts.

    In addition, Atheism actively promotes and encourages argument with people who follow other religions. In this sense it is a religion of itself, trying to convert people. People should be free to chose and keep their own set of beliefs and you have no right to try to change those.

    In closing Atheism is not the choice of the intelligent, but rather the choice of the unintelligent. I promote Agnosticism instead.
     
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    Well,i've chosen the first option..in our holy book it's written that the first 2 people on earth after they've been in paradise where adam and eve,and all those scientific things about homos aren't true
     
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    Adam that idiot why did you take the apple?! i personally think there was no Adam -.-
     
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    harry potter have had to be real, I mean someone wrote about him so something must be true.

    You believers say that GOD made the bible GOD is perfect why is the book full of errors then? thats right its made by humans. humans make errors. Also i never said that i believe everything that is writen in a science book. I believe what i see and what i think is right.

    GOD is just a explanation of things we don't know.
    We don't know what after this life. We don't know how we get here.
    Thats why we believe there must be something like a GOD
    It just the way human brains work.
     
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    Your always against the "official" reasoning Sythe, and i think it's only because you want something to argue against..

    Your point about 9/11 have value, but not this m8..

    There is more scientific evidense for the big bang than there is for any other theories, so at the moment the Big Bang theory is the "accepted" one.
     
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    I have not seen many, if any Atheists that think they know everything. The point that we try to make is that we don't everything, but refuse to use a religious placeholder as a temporary, if not eternal explanation.

    I fail to see how mainstream science, or otherwise, has every provided a real explanation for what happens when we die.

    Not many people who call themselves Atheists are actually true Atheists. In fact, I am agnostic in the sense that if someone proved to me that God exists I would believe it, however, I believe that the proposition is so unlikely that I chose to live my life on the basis that is it false. I like to call it Agnostic in belief, Atheist in practice. I would have to agree with the point that people are always pitting Atheism/Agnosticism strictly against Christianity. I have debated a few Deists and a Muslim, and disagree with their concepts, (although I rejoice in their lack of arrogance), just as much as I do Christianity.

    The reason Atheists debate Theists is that believing in an imaginary being is delusional and should be treated as such. I don't want the people around me to blindly follow anything, I want them to think for themselves. I think it is part of our role in society to try and correct others when they are wrong, and show them when they are being idiotic.
     
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