What is your biggest gripe/reason you don't like/play RS3?

Piggybacking off of my reply in my OSRS Raids thread, I'm interested to hear where you believe Jagex went wrong with Runescape 3 (if you think they went wrong anywhere). Runescape 3 has now been the core version of the game since 2013, many say November 2012 when Evolution of Combat released.

Now, let me preface by saying I am maxed on Runescape 3 and still enjoy the game.

Here, however, are my biggest gripes since EoC/RS3 hit:

-Cosmetic/Disneyscape - Sooo many ugly outfits, so many items and garb that goes against the medieval aesthetic that carried Runescape and gave it an actual identity. I feel like Runescape 3 doesn't really have an identity anymore. While the game world looks much the same and heavily improved with the NXT client, I cannot stand that Jagex went and completely changed the vibe of the game. Aesthetics are important in MMO's, at least to me. World of Warcraft has done an excellent job in maintaining its identity, at least in my opinion. This is by far my biggest gripe because outside of actual gameplay Runescape's aesthetic from 2005-2011 was quite frankly outstanding.

-EoC was broken on release. This is the EoC everyone that quit when it came out remembers. Clunky, counter intuitive, unresponsive and frustrating.

-NIS New interface system. It's been 4 years and I'm still not used to it. Clunky, convoluted, confusing. I heavily prefer the leaner and cleaner Legacy interface.


Popular things to hate I don't really mind:

MTX - Jagex is a company, MTX makes them millions. I understand this. I don't really care about easier XP because the game had been getting easier long before EoC or Runescape 3 hit.

EoC - 2017 EoC is nothing like 2012 EoC. It is a lot more user friendly and it adds a variety to combat that Old School Runescape does not have. That said, I love Old School Runescape so don't get it twisted. I am in the very rare camp that enjoys both combat systems.


The best things Jagex has come out with since Eoc/Rs3:

NXT - This client is legit as fuck. The only thing I don't like is it can be notorious for turning your computer into a toaster. I get less FPS on Ultra NXT than I do on Ultra WoW (Even after WoW ratcheted up their graphics this past summer). So for that it is still not properly optimized. To be fair the client is still very young, not even a year old.

High Level PVM - There are bosses I cannot beat in RS3 still, which I can not say for OSRS. I like 07 Raids more than RS3 Raids but I like that they came out with Raids in RS3.

Fine tuning EoC - It's a lot better than it was 5 years ago.


Conclusion: Rs3 really isn't as shit as you might think. I was heavily against EoC when it first came out and thought Rs3 was stupid as fuck. But if you get back into the game, you might find it's still fun.


That said, I do really wish it still has the 2011 vibe to it. You can sort of recreate it with legacy interface + animations, but the aesthetic is impossible to recreate with all that disneyscape poop in the game.

What made you quit RS3? What do you hate about it? Interested to hear.

Thanks to @Shwag who made me come up with this idea in my thread.

 

Personally I feel as if they tried their hardest to implement systems that are in the MMO's of today. Big fail, no one likes a multi-combat system where you have hotkeys and 9 different attack actions. The graphics are wonderful but I think they have tried to hard and that is why the game has been ruined for vet players.

 

Definitely did at the very least compromise Runescape 3's identity. I really don't know what to call it anymore. It's like a cookie cutter version of bigger MMO's. That's not to say it's bad, just vastly different. And a lot of Runescape players don't like vastly different.

 

Honestly, I really like legacy mode and I enjoy playing whenever I do. While I still can't stand EOC, I'm glad we have the option to use legacy mode if we want to. Luckily I've started to get used to the new interface, but it definitely annoyed me for quite some time too.

The main reason I don't play these days though is because whenever I do, I end up wanting to buy gp for better armor, skills, and rares, but when I buy gp, I end up wanting to gamble.

 

Yessss so much this. Legacy is a good way to basically recreate Pre-Eoc. It's the closest you can get really, because OSRS is way too different from 2011-2012 RS.

 

Personally, I still play some on legacy but is very difficult as most weapons are aimed to be used with abilities and there's a steep XP curve to using it compared to legacy along with raids and bosses being made for eoc style. I think the main thing that I dislike is 95% of rs3 is maxed out and the aim is for everyone to get comp cape/trim cape. People don't just chill to have fun and pk'ing is non-existent unless it's killing people trying to do Wilderness Warbands for xp. I feel that a lot of things like just killing monsters to train, etc are worthless because they aren't the most "efficient", the drops are worthless as well because there is too much gold and all items are deflated in value due to bosses that drop a lot noted, bots, no more demand for low-level skill items. Only "valued" items are those that there is a limited amount of, aka the party hats which is why they are all over max cash. Overall the feeling you get when training and seeing others training around you for fun and to pk or impress noobs with a 99 cape is now gone and it's now all solo grind sessions which aren't that fun. I feel that and people just hating eoc + skill lamps promotions is why everyone quit mainly followed by the game become unfun for new people to join.

 

I'm gonna sum up my thoughts into one big post so I apologize in advance if it becomes difficult to follow. I'll start off by saying I strictly play RS3 at the moment, but started playing RS around 06. There are a lot of common issues people bring up when discussing their problems with RS3, namely EoC, MTX, and efficiencyscape. EoC was absolutely terrible on release and for a good several months after that. A lot of people felt that the update was both awful and too much of a change and I can't say I disagree. Those of us who stuck around, however, have noticed a drastic increase in the quality and balance of the new combat system. It honestly is really fun and much more interactive than the old school combat system (in my opinion), although I can't say it would matter much to people who don't care about RS3 pvm. For those people, legacy mode or even revolution are good alternatives. MTX, like you mentioned, is ultimately only as important as you make it out to be. It is inefficient (and expensive as hell) to max out via MTX promos. The only portion of the community who uses this are those going for 5.4b xp, and most of them have no lives Efficiency is probably the biggest difference between the two games. A lot of the newests content and upcoming updates on RS3 are definitely geared towards the top end of the community. The game has been out for a long time, and most of the frequent players are max/comped/trimmed. It's only natural that the game begins to revolve around those players. I know a lot of my friends have started playing 07 as they run out of things to do on RS3, which I think is where I'm headed shortly. They seem to have struck a good balance between building up an account on 07 while occasionally coming back to their "main" on RS3 for pvm, dailies, etc

 

Both the graphics and EoC are absolute trash, haven't logged in since the day after EoC happened

 

I log in from time to time and it just feels so foreign to me. I don't play OSRS either though. Just wish the main game had the same feel as it used too. I even played in 2013 and 2014 or w/e right when legacy happened and still enjoyed the game. Once div came out the spark was gone.

 

I'll agree with the graphics bit. 2011-early 2012 graphics were kreygasm

I feel this. No more majestic aesthetic.

 

Honestly, I was away for the game and the community itself for over 4 years, so you can imagine the shock when I logged in and saw how things have changed. In terms of skills, I must admit, I really didn't mind the addition of invention/divination, even if I don't particularly like the skill.

On the other hand, I really dislike the new customization options. For some reason, I just liked it when it was your character, your armour and that's it. I don't really like the levitation perks, or the wings, just makes everything so un-realistic and different.

This being said, I've gotten used to EOC and many of the new features that were implemented while I was gone. I think the thing I like/hate the most at the same time are the xp rates. On the one hand, I enjoy leveling up faster and getting that satisfaction feeling as I get closer to my goals. On the other hand, however, I hate the fact that everything is so achievable now, and basically anyone can get it without much effort. This makes the game, in my opinion, less competitive (something I really like) as everyone is maxed, or almost maxed, and basically takes away from the experience in my opinion.

I could go on for hours, but that's basically it.

 

I've especially started appreciating your third paragraph/point a lot recently as I've been trying to max in 07. Seeing how much more difficult it is really shows Jagex found no middle ground on making it difficult yet attainable with an actual feeling of achievement.

It's sad when 99 cooking in OSRS feels equivalent to one of the "harder" 99's in RS3. That's just bad.

 

I like Runescape 3 and still play both game modes (rs3 more than 07) but I've got a few issues with rs3:

1) PvM focused game and lack of any other community. PvP, Dg, and pretty much any other community has died away in the past few years due to Jagex's focus on pvm content and lack of interest in other areas and a habit of releasing shoddy, unfinished content in those areas (bh for rs3, invention, etc).

2) PvP sucks. The combat system is inherently good and I'm good with it, but the way it works makes pvp very rotation based, semi-predictable, and RNG based in what should be a more skill based system. To round it off, KO potential in singles is stupidly low if both players are competent and wearing decent armor. Multi pvp is amazing though, ngl.

3) The community is basically all maxed and everything is super easy. I got trimmed completionist several years ago and had max on release of the capes of distinction, so in my opinion there's no 'noobs' anymore (after watching the number of trim comps 6x since i got it). I maxed an alt in like 9 months playing semi casually while working near full time and taking 15 credit hours, it's stupidly easy.

That being said, I still prefer it over 07, which is turning into a private server-esque game.

 

I really wish people would give RS3 another chance because of the current updates.

MXT at first was awful, laggy, things would warp and glitch out all the time, but now that the client is stable, the graphics are awesome (not wow-tier sure, but awesome none-the-less)

The devs really care about their game, you never see big games like WoW where they have a livestream almost every week explaining to the players what they can/can't do. Jagex is very open about things they can add and things they can't.
If you ask them a question and they simply can't do it, they won't say "we'll try" they'll flat out say no, and the honesty is admirable. They are just so up-front with their players, no blankets, no lies.

There is an in-game update almost every Monday that brings the community closer socially. (Not just talking about MXT)
The new events such as the valentines event, Nihil, pirate, although minor, it brings the community closer and gives us other smaller goals to achieve and if you don't want the transmog reward, you can turn them into stars/lamps. Something for everyone.

Runescape can only move forward from here, with their raids, their graphics and adding new content to the game (e.g the new expansion coming this year!!!)

I know I didn't say any cons, but I don't see a lot of them except Jagex gives in too much to the whinny babies. When there is a loud bunch of people that aren't happy with something they will do it even if it makes others slightly unhappy.

 

I play for shits and gigs but after everything has changed I don't really try as much. I have a pretty nice account that has a scythe and all most max skills. But it doesn't mean shit because my main I started in rs with got banned with a legendary name. Been stripped of all my rares through scams back in the day. But oh well its just a game.

 

So many reasons that I will forever hate RS3.

1. Killed Pking. In the grave. Dead. Pures, rune pures, any kind of specialized Pking account was ruined because at the time armour gave HP. Especially egregious given they already saw what happened the last time they ruined Pking (see: Trade ban and wildy removal)...
2. EoC marked the end of RuneScape's uniqueness. "Abilities" and all the rest made RS3 an incredibly generic MMO, where before it had been a trailblazer in its own style.
3. MTX - You say it doesn't bother you, but it sure bothers the hell out of alot of people. Especially now when OSRS is the more popular game mode, it seems to me as if Jagex is trying to milk every penny out of a dying game. Pay for XP. Pay for GP. Get handed free XP. Get handed free untradeable GWD items. Continue to shove MTX down PAYING MEMBERS throats. I hate it, as do most people in the OSRS community.
4. The game has lost much of its medieval charm, which goes back to point #2. There are cosmetic overrides for EVERYTHING. Want a tail? Want wings? Huge flashy auras around you? A Hawaiian bathing suit? Why even bother having default item models when you never have to see them. These aren't bad things, but it's just not RuneScape. And I don't care for generic MMO's.

When people say "Support both game modes you're only helping eachother", I think they ignore the reasons why many people dislike RS3. To many, it's the update that ruined their favorite game's popularity. Therefore, any people who continue to play and therein support the update are just contributing to the mess it's caused. At this point, though, I don't think the games will merge, so I have no choice but to support RS3. Or at the very least, leave it be.

It makes me very sad because the graphics are absolutely beautiful, hard to imagine what this game could've become.

Anyways, that's my 2 cents.

 

MTX does bother me to a degree, but not game breaking to me I suppose.

#2 and #4 are huge complaints of mine as well.

I actually like 2011's graphics the best of any era, but I'm probably in the minority there.

 

Agreed. I loved the original torva, the whip after it was first updated and had the resting animation of curling and then straightening. If I remember correctly, it was before they updated the rune and bandos and stuff.

 

Very Early 2012 (March I believe) they changed the look of armors, that was the beginning of the end. Then came EoC, which cucked all of the sweet animations (which at least came back with legacy mode), interface changes, player model changes.

Sadly the 2011 aesthetic is completely dead. I wish the Old School Server had been 2011, but Jagex probably thought it'd be embarrassing to release a version of the game that was literally a year younger than EoC.

 

@Dunworry Look how sexy these graphics were :'(