What Is The Illuminati.?

[JohnK]

I find it too hard to believe. In most cases, the Illuminati just sounds like a scapegoat for blame.

 

[Skitch]

Illimunatie = New world order
Are there strong people in it? The whole goverment.

 

[Thug_Life]

I find it too hard to believe. In most cases, the Illuminati just sounds like a scapegoat for blame.

If you have the time and don't mind to view my posts, please do so. It'll explain why people even believe such a thing in the first place. And while you're ready, please keep in mind and there's a ton more evidence and I barely posted half the evidence...

Illimunatie = New world order
Are there strong people in it? The whole goverment.

Illuminati is made up of people with power. If you don't have power, you're not a part of it. Even if you have money, you're not a part of it. You need power, however, for Bill Gates, it just might be different due to what he possesses and even though he has money, he also has a large amount of power.

 

[Gurtaton]

They look for people with power. They don't grab anyone they see off the streets. For example, Obama, he's the strongest human being and I'm pretty sure if the Illuminati is real, he's well affiliated with it.

If you're going to bring up Obama, the reason he was chosen president was because they wanted to show people that 'black people' were being treated equally, while at the same time, in music, movies, etc, they continued to degrade them. Obama was just a tool used to hide their existence, because since the Illuminati supposedly thinks of blacks as subhumans, there is no way in hell people would believe that they put a black man in the president's seat if they really did exist.

My take on it, anyway. These co-incidences all add up though, and I don't know if it's one major troll or anything, but given mankind's corrupt nature, I doubt it is.

 

[Herman Li]

Here's probably the #1 song (imo) for which Wiz Khalifa sold out. And, of course, there's someone wearing a shirt bearing the pyramid and the eye..

[YOUTUBE]aVmPFsOB1TA[/YOUTUBE]

Also, I might look into Nate Dog's death about this. Probably was the Illuminati too.

 

[dead mau5]

So many people in this thread have no idea how the illuminati goes about things. Obviously they won't just "TAKE OVER THE WORLD". Their goal isn't to obviously "TAKE OVER THE WORLD". They WANT your trust. They WANT your fear. Everything excites fear in people nowadays.

Headlines; War on TERROR. DEATH. RIOTS. KILL. 50 DEAD! etc. etc.

It won't happen as if the President sends the army in to contain anyone trying to do something against them (although check out the FEMA camps...hmm..). Also look up Project Bluebeam. With their control over people via religion, they could EASILY fake the second coming. Keep in contact if the internet is killed, which might happen soon.



They're not idiots...Obviously they won't just tear up the Constitution and throw it out the window. But they ARE, limiting your rights slowly but surely. The Patriot Act? Also, see how big of a deal gun control is nowadays? They don't WANT you to be able to fight back...but it is our RIGHT to bear arms.. Know your rights people, and don't give them up.

You're acting like the patriot act didn't have a positive effect, or possibly could have a positive effect? Who would want the entire Us population be able to walk into Walmart and purchase an automatic ak-47. Just because it takes away some of your rights doesn't mean it's negatively effecting you and they're trying to control us, it's for our own good

 

[Chase]

They control basically all mainstream artists, having them sell their souls to them. If you speak against em once your in it, you'll end up dead like tupac or michael jackson, and they'll cover it up saying you died another way, and get away with it. They make you do whatever, like they made Lil Boosie kill those 8 people, then he spoke against and they got him locked up with either life or death penalty.

Type www.itanimulli.com (illuminati backwards), and see what pops up. Strange...

 

[Herman Li]

They control basically all mainstream artists, having them sell their souls to them. If you speak against em once your in it, you'll end up dead like tupac or michael jackson, and they'll cover it up saying you died another way, and get away with it. They make you do whatever, like they made Lil Boosie kill those 8 people, then he spoke against and they got him locked up with either life or death penalty.

Type www.itanimulli.com (illuminati backwards), and see what pops up. Strange...

Not just artists.

People, the illuminati have their hands in the government, banks, corporations and media.

 

[Thug_Life]

If you're going to bring up Obama, the reason he was chosen president was because they wanted to show people that 'black people' were being treated equally, while at the same time, in music, movies, etc, they continued to degrade them. Obama was just a tool used to hide their existence, because since the Illuminati supposedly thinks of blacks as subhumans, there is no way in hell people would believe that they put a black man in the president's seat if they really did exist.

My take on it, anyway. These co-incidences all add up though, and I don't know if it's one major troll or anything, but given mankind's corrupt nature, I doubt it is.

Or it was a way to make African-American's chill the fuck out with riots and shit?

You need to think outside the box.

They could of easily brought Obama in so that riots like how Eazy-E had done and more don't repeat in history and this was a way to make them more calm while they do their business behind the scenes.

 

[JIGL0JAY]

So I've assumed you've gone through all the information that's been given to you? You've watched all these videos?

Here are a bunch of videos that prove God exists:
Video 1
Video 2
Video 3
Video 4
Video 5
Video 6
Video 7
Video 8
Video 9
Video 10
Video 11
Video 12
Video 13
Video 14

Now, if you don't believe me after all of these videos. I suggest you open up a bible and read. Because it's written right there in plain sight that God is real. It was right under your nose and you didn't even see it. What's that? I need to prove to you through facts, rather than speculation? Nonsense! A bunch of speculative ideas and false correlations only used to further advance my paranoid delusions is the only way to go!

Herman, would you kindly GTFO if you can't prove to me how they exist other than using fear tactics and bullshit from the media?

You're acting like the patriot act didn't have a positive effect, or possibly could have a positive effect? Who would want the entire Us population be able to walk into Walmart and purchase an automatic ak-47. Just because it takes away some of your rights doesn't mean it's negatively effecting you and they're trying to control us, it's for our own good

That's bullshit and you know it.

The argument from authority, and an appeal to fear prove you wrong. You can't say that "the government said bad things will happen if we don't do this". Because if that's the way you want to look at it, you're no better than these people who will blindly scream "Illuminati" at everything.

Or it was a way to make African-American's chill the fuck out with riots and shit?

You need to think outside the box.

They could of easily brought Obama in so that riots like how Eazy-E had done and more don't repeat in history and this was a way to make them more calm while they do their business behind the scenes.

You're clueless. African-American's weren't the only ones that were going to riot. Our entire country was about to fold in on itself.

This isn't the Illuminati, this is the fucking Federal Reserve controlling us. The Fed is an actual thing. The Illuminati is not. Stop scape goating our problems.

 

[Herman Li]

Here are a bunch of videos that prove God exists:
Video 1
Video 2
Video 3
Video 4
Video 5
Video 6
Video 7
Video 8
Video 9
Video 10
Video 11
Video 12
Video 13
Video 14

Now, if you don't believe me after all of these videos. I suggest you open up a bible and read. Because it's written right there in plain sight that God is real. It was right under your nose and you didn't even see it.

And do you watch all those videos of the proof of god's existence or do you immediately dismiss information as it comes to you? The information in these videos DOES show fact, but it's for you to decide what it adds up to, is true or not. The Bible just tells you flat out that god exists and this is how it happened. That's not what these videos say at all..

What's that? I need to prove to you through facts, rather than speculation? Nonsense! A bunch of speculative ideas and false correlations only used to further advance my paranoid delusions is the only way to go!

We CAN'T 100% straight-up factually prove the Illuminati is right in front of us because they're the elite and obviously a secret society. That in itself doesn't justify that they DO exist, but through these videos, facts are shown to you that prove something is going on behind the curtain.

Herman, would you kindly GTFO if you can't prove to me how they exist other than using fear tactics and bullshit from the media?

You can't prove to me anything is true, as I must take word from other sources, which have taken from other sources, and so on. This is the same thing.

 

[Thug_Life]

Here are a bunch of videos that prove God exists:
Video 1
Video 2
Video 3
Video 4
Video 5
Video 6
Video 7
Video 8
Video 9
Video 10
Video 11
Video 12
Video 13
Video 14

Now, if you don't believe me after all of these videos. I suggest you open up a bible and read. Because it's written right there in plain sight that God is real. It was right under your nose and you didn't even see it. What's that? I need to prove to you through facts, rather than speculation? Nonsense! A bunch of speculative ideas and false correlations only used to further advance my paranoid delusions is the only way to go!

Herman, would you kindly GTFO if you can't prove to me how they exist other than using fear tactics and bullshit from the media?



That's bullshit and you know it.

The argument from authority, and an appeal to fear prove you wrong. You can't say that "the government said bad things will happen if we don't do this". Because if that's the way you want to look at it, you're no better than these people who will blindly scream "Illuminati" at everything.



You're clueless. African-American's weren't the only ones that were going to riot. Our entire country was about to fold in on itself.

This isn't the Illuminati, this is the fucking Federal Reserve controlling us. The Fed is an actual thing. The Illuminati is not. Stop scape goating our problems.

Umm...

1) Stop being a fucking dick. Talk nicely or GTFO.

2) You're the clueless one. I never said African-American's are the only ones that were going to cause a riot. African-American's are the MAJORITY of the people causing a riot. The Rap Scene in the 90's was a complete chaos hence majority of the leaders are now dead. Can you please STFU and read WTF I'm posting and pull your god damn head out your fucking ass? Ty.

3) None of your video links are directed...

4) Nothing proves god exists or god doesn't exist. It's for you to decide. Along with that, WTF does God have to do with the Illuminati?

5) Don't ever debate again, you sound like an ignorant idiot when doing so. When someone doesn't agree with you, you apparently like to act like a little bitch and start to insult other peoples intelligence.

6) Go do some research before posting here.

This isn't the Illuminati, this is the fucking Federal Reserve controlling us. The Fed is an actual thing. The Illuminati is not. Stop scape goating our problems.

The Federal Reserve can be used as a disguised name for the Illuminati, dumb-ass. Such as the "President" or the "Government".....

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Also, stop acting like you know the answer to EVERYTHING and that your opinion is 100% right. If you are, you'd be fucking god or someone with a high-rank in the real world, not a bitching member on Sythe.org.

 

[JIGL0JAY]

Umm...

1) Stop being a fucking dick. Talk nicely or GTFO.

Well all I said was GTFO and bullshit. He refused to give me evidence and tried to make me seem foolish even though the burden of proof lies on you believers.

2) You're the clueless one. I never said African-American's are the only ones that were going to cause a riot. African-American's are the MAJORITY of the people causing a riot. The Rap Scene in the 90's was a complete chaos hence majority of the leaders are now dead. Can you please STFU and read WTF I'm posting and pull your god damn head out your fucking ass? Ty.

Well here's something: When Tupac or Biggie got shot, it was gang violence. Something that happens all over the world. The rap scene in the 90's was definitely a shitstorm, I agree. But you're implying that every single famous person's death was a conspiracy. You don't have ANY proof. YOU are the one that said:

In reality....when someone becomes TOO powerful, they ARE WARNED to calm down or THEY WILL BE KILLED.

This is bullshit, because there has never been a single instance in the history of the world of a leak this big. Want to know something more? If the Illuminati is as big as you say it is, then why has there never been a leak ever about it? Could it be that the boogeymen you chase are actually just ideas that make you fearful and your fear subdues you?

Here's another question: If you're so knowledgeable about the Illuminati, have you told your best friends and family? If not, why? If you cannot convince the ones that understand you the best, what makes you think you can convince a stranger on a forum?

And yet another question: If you HAVE told your family and they believe you, what have you and your family done to protect others/stop the Illuminati. If you believe they are the top government officials, why haven't you been spreading the word and convincing others?

3) None of your video links are directed...

It was a satire of the fact that all the people in this thread are posting "Illuminati in the music video" videos.

4) Nothing proves god exists or god doesn't exist. It's for you to decide. Along with that, WTF does God have to do with the Illuminati?

It's the same concept. This debate style goes the same with any conspiracy, especially RELIGION.

Does it exist? Yes/No
Why does it exist? [x]
How do you prove it exists? [x]
If no evidence can prove that it is real, how does it exist?

People believe 9/11 was comitted by a bomb planted in the WTC and the planes were projections, not actual planes.

People believe that every natural disaster in the world is caused by HAARP.

People believe that Barack Obama was a test tube baby.

People believe that some powerful leaders sacrifice children at Bohemian Grove.

How do we prove these things? All there is is SPECULATIVE EVIDENCE. There are things that we see don't make sense, and we put 2 and 2 together to make 3 and call it true?

5) Don't ever debate again, you sound like an ignorant idiot when doing so. When someone doesn't agree with you, you apparently like to act like a little bitch and start to insult other peoples intelligence.

The problem is, I'm not even actually debating you guys right now. I'm telling you that your proof is a bunch of fallacies and false correlations. Just like your whole "Michael Jackson's death and rape allegations were a result of being too popular."

This is called a false correlation. "X happened, and then Y happened, so therefore X caused Y."

Do you want a full list, Sythe (The fucking creator) has a list.
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=937359

6) Go do some research before posting here.

I have done my research. I have concluded that because a bunch of SPECULATION occurred, people created a scape goat that a "new world order" was coming. They started taking a lot of things completely out of context and making it seem as if it were so obvious, when it really doesn't mean much at all.

Check my post here of my review of a bunch of different sites that dealt with Illuminati/NWO symbology
http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=9554298&postcount=10

The Federal Reserve can be used as a disguised name for the Illuminati, dumb-ass. Such as the "President" or the "Government".....

So I'm a dumb ass because I would rather deal with powerful banking elite that have our country and others by the balls due to their massive grips which is real and happening right now, than a set up of world leaders and media figures who are so powerful and give off all sorts of signs to the "truth" which is that they are a part of an organization. The same organization that causes everything from natural disasters, to assassinations in the name of cover-ups of their organization, and seem to have no problem allowing their media figures to produce symbols. The same organization that would allow thousands of videos and websites be created just for the sole purpose of exposing them to remain operable because "they aren't famous enough".

You know what, if I'm a dumbass because I can deal with reality, then I don't even WANT to know what that makes you.

Also, stop acting like you know the answer to EVERYTHING and that your opinion is 100% right. If you are, you'd be fucking god or someone with a high-rank in the real world, not a bitching member on Sythe.org.

I don't know the answer to everything. But if you want to prove the Illuminati to exist, you haven't done a good job at it. At all.

By the way, Sythe is more arrogant than me, go read his thread here: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=370752

He doesn't tolerate bullshit, and neither do I.

 

[Herman Li]

stuff

That's why this is the GENERAL/OFF TOPIC forum. If you're looking for a damn debate we have Something For All for a REASON. This thread is for information involving the illuminati and what people think. Like I said, no one here is trying to convince you. It's up to you to believe it or not, but I'm not doing the research for you.

 

[Terrankiller]

That's why this is the GENERAL/OFF TOPIC forum. If you're looking for a damn debate we have Something For All for a REASON. This thread is for information involving the illuminati and what people think. Like I said, no one here is trying to convince you. It's up to you to believe it or not, but I'm not doing the research for you.

He is simply saying the information you are all providing is crap.

 

[Herman Li]

He is simply saying the information you are all providing is crap.

So he's spamming?

He also admits to neglecting looking into the information that's been given to him. That's a damn shame.

 

[Terrankiller]

So he's spamming?

He also admits to neglecting looking into the information that's been given to him. That's a damn shame.

No, he is not spamming. This is a discussion forum.

 

[Herman Li]

Also, just because something cannot be proven, doesn't mean it isn't true. Sure, it gives you plenty of grounds to not believe it, but by no means should be instantly dismissed either.

Here's another question: If you're so knowledgeable about the Illuminati, have you told your best friends and family? If not, why? If you cannot convince the ones that understand you the best, what makes you think you can convince a stranger on a forum?

Once again, no one is trying to convince you.....
And I don't because;

1. I'm too lazy to get my family to watch hours and hours of videos.
2. There isn't much we can do about it lmao.

 

[External]

please explain in depth what it is thanks

 

[Thug_Life]

Well all I said was GTFO and bullshit. He refused to give me evidence and tried to make me seem foolish even though the burden of proof lies on you believers.



Well here's something: When Tupac or Biggie got shot, it was gang violence. Something that happens all over the world. The rap scene in the 90's was definitely a shitstorm, I agree. But you're implying that every single famous person's death was a conspiracy. You don't have ANY proof. YOU are the one that said:



This is bullshit, because there has never been a single instance in the history of the world of a leak this big. Want to know something more? If the Illuminati is as big as you say it is, then why has there never been a leak ever about it? Could it be that the boogeymen you chase are actually just ideas that make you fearful and your fear subdues you?

Here's another question: If you're so knowledgeable about the Illuminati, have you told your best friends and family? If not, why? If you cannot convince the ones that understand you the best, what makes you think you can convince a stranger on a forum?

And yet another question: If you HAVE told your family and they believe you, what have you and your family done to protect others/stop the Illuminati. If you believe they are the top government officials, why haven't you been spreading the word and convincing others?



It was a satire of the fact that all the people in this thread are posting "Illuminati in the music video" videos.



It's the same concept. This debate style goes the same with any conspiracy, especially RELIGION.

Does it exist? Yes/No
Why does it exist? [x]
How do you prove it exists? [x]
If no evidence can prove that it is real, how does it exist?

People believe 9/11 was comitted by a bomb planted in the WTC and the planes were projections, not actual planes.

People believe that every natural disaster in the world is caused by HAARP.

People believe that Barack Obama was a test tube baby.

People believe that some powerful leaders sacrifice children at Bohemian Grove.

How do we prove these things? All there is is SPECULATIVE EVIDENCE. There are things that we see don't make sense, and we put 2 and 2 together to make 3 and call it true?



The problem is, I'm not even actually debating you guys right now. I'm telling you that your proof is a bunch of fallacies and false correlations. Just like your whole "Michael Jackson's death and rape allegations were a result of being too popular."

This is called a false correlation. "X happened, and then Y happened, so therefore X caused Y."

Do you want a full list, Sythe (The fucking creator) has a list.
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=937359



I have done my research. I have concluded that because a bunch of SPECULATION occurred, people created a scape goat that a "new world order" was coming. They started taking a lot of things completely out of context and making it seem as if it were so obvious, when it really doesn't mean much at all.

Check my post here of my review of a bunch of different sites that dealt with Illuminati/NWO symbology
http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=9554298&postcount=10



So I'm a dumb ass because I would rather deal with powerful banking elite that have our country and others by the balls due to their massive grips which is real and happening right now, than a set up of world leaders and media figures who are so powerful and give off all sorts of signs to the "truth" which is that they are a part of an organization. The same organization that causes everything from natural disasters, to assassinations in the name of cover-ups of their organization, and seem to have no problem allowing their media figures to produce symbols. The same organization that would allow thousands of videos and websites be created just for the sole purpose of exposing them to remain operable because "they aren't famous enough".

You know what, if I'm a dumbass because I can deal with reality, then I don't even WANT to know what that makes you.



I don't know the answer to everything. But if you want to prove the Illuminati to exist, you haven't done a good job at it. At all.

By the way, Sythe is more arrogant than me, go read his thread here: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=370752

He doesn't tolerate bullshit, and neither do I.

1) It was not a gang violence, once again you're pulling shit out your fucking ass without proof. Stop acting like you know everything.

2) NEVER compare yourself to Sythe. He's wayyyy more educated than most people on this site and when some dumb-fuck like you posts bullshit that makes no sense, that's when he doesn't tolerate shit. You on the other hand post bullshit and don't read into anything and when you're proven wrong, you refuse to read the evidence.

3) You do act like you know everything. Don't even deny it. Don't bother post here if you're going to be a fucking dick about it. Why? I can be a much greater dick on this site than ANY. You're welcome to ask anyone for verification, if you please.