What is death?

[Dr Lauftstein]

I think death occurs when the body is incapable of being "brought back to life" by drugs, medicines, or any modern medical operation. Death is when the body reaches the "point of no return".

 

[Schnell]

I think death occurs when the body is incapable of being "brought back to life" by drugs, medicines, or any modern medical operation. Death is when the body reaches the "point of no return".

That's a silly definition. Your "point of no return" moves with medical advances, which means that someone who would be dead 100 years ago would today be considered alive because they can now be revived.

 

[ZDQuesting]

Provide a video,link or article to support your claim or it didn't happen.

Q: What is 'cryonics'?

A: Cryonics is a technique designed to save lives and greatly extend lifespan. It involves cooling legally-dead people to liquid nitrogen temperature where physical decay essentially stops, in the hope that future technologically advanced scientific procedures will someday be able to revive them and restore them to youth and good health. A person held in such a state is said to be a "cryopreserved patient", because we do not regard the cryopreserved person as being really "dead".

-http://cryonics.org/prod.html

not the same thing but a basic idea.

 

[Kleenex]

The last time I checked, death is classified by no bodily activity. No brain, muscle, heart, respiration, pulse, nerve signals. When a body is uncapable of coming back.

 

[ZDQuesting]

The last time I checked, death is classified by no bodily activity. No brain, muscle, heart, respiration, pulse, nerve signals. When a body is uncapable of coming back.

would that be all of the above? Because like I said earlier, in open heart surgery, the heart and respiratory system, and I'm not 100% sure on this one, but the brain is stopped until the surgery has been completed. IF its all of the above, I'll check into it so don't quote me but I believe there has been cases of people having all of those signs but being revived.

 

[BEYOND REASON]

Death is the opposite of birth.

 

[Schnell]

would that be all of the above? Because like I said earlier, in open heart surgery, the heart and respiratory system, and I'm not 100% sure on this one, but the brain is stopped until the surgery has been completed. IF its all of the above, I'll check into it so don't quote me but I believe there has been cases of people having all of those signs but being revived.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiopulmonary_bypass

 

[Schnell]

Death is the opposite of birth.

:laugh:

Try again.

 

[GFX | Justin]

I see death as the point where one cannot be revived

So the exact definition will change as we medically advance

But that's just my opinion.

 

[Trinity19]

Now even though Ive already posted this with my view of physical death, I'm curious as to whether were also going to group in mental death and brain dead patients.
It just seems that with brain dead patients, that should also be considered a form of death and end when the main a primary fact that makes you the living, thinking being dies off and you become just a simple collection of cooperative organs.

 

[Schnell]

Now even though Ive already posted this with my view of physical death, I'm curious as to whether were also going to group in mental death and brain dead patients.
It just seems that with brain dead patients, that should also be considered a form of death and end when the main a primary fact that makes you the living, thinking being dies off and you become just a simple collection of cooperative organs.

Consciousness is not a requirement for life though.

 

[ZDQuesting]

Consciousness is not a requirement for life though.

Well people believe that a coma is a form of death.. So his view of death could be considered death.

Death could be a mental death, where you can no longer respond to anything, make deliberate movements, or think. I would wish I was dead if I couldn't do any of the above, with no hope of being fixed.

 

[Trinity19]

Consciousness is not a requirement for life though.

True, when were talking about basic form of living, thus meaning just functioning with little to no cognitive thought. But when we increase that to a different for of living, the standard of humans that we hold ourselves to then truly unconsciousness can be considered a form of death.
But before i had just mentioned that they were braindead making them even more useless than a plant considering all they will do is waste resources and take them in while a plant will atleast contribute to society.

 

[ZDQuesting]

True, when were talking about basic form of living, thus meaning just functioning with little to no cognitive thought.

So technically they're still alive.

 

[Trinity19]

So technically they're still alive.

Please refer to my entire statement and not just pieces as some may be taken out of context.

When were talking about absolute death, then yes they are still alive. As much as a virus is alive. Doing the basic processes and nothing more without any conscious thought. (Don't take this comparison to heavily since I'm not a virus expert lol)

But when we consider the thought of relative death then the situation takes on a different route.

 

[Kleenex]

would that be all of the above? Because like I said earlier, in open heart surgery, the heart and respiratory system, and I'm not 100% sure on this one, but the brain is stopped until the surgery has been completed. IF its all of the above, I'll check into it so don't quote me but I believe there has been cases of people having all of those signs but being revived.

Yes, I mean all of the above.

 

[ZDQuesting]

Please refer to my entire statement and not just pieces as some may be taken out of context.

I actually wasn't. I actually quite liked that post. It was well thought out :idea:

 

[Trinity19]

I actually wasn't. I actually quite liked that post. It was well thought out :idea:

Oh lol, i apologize then. I made a quick assumption and thought you were only referring to that one section =P
You can see my thought process no? but either way that's not an excuse, again my apologies for jumping the gun.

 

[zbygniewas]

No one exactly knows what is death. Do you people know where had u been before born? there u gonna be when u die! in my opinion

 

[ZDQuesting]

No one exactly knows what is death. Do you people know where had u been before born? there u gonna be when u die! in my opinion

So are you saying that theirs a outer body waiting for a physical body before and after death? I'm not really sure about it, personally.