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Vouches From Trusted Members = Worthless

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To the people who don't like the vouches from upgrade sales: do keep in mind that users trust upgrade sellers with their account's GP and items.

not really, most people would have a bank pin on there accounts so yeah ._.
 
Vouches are basically indicating that you would trust the person for a future trade.


Thiis is why if there are any staff that vouch for anyone applying to become an OMM and if these applicants scam, the staff are punished as well.

vouch should be taken away from any but the most important of trades because as plznate and the others mentioned, it is being used inaccurately.

also vouching eventually will end up in some newcomer failing to understand the true meaning of it <-- getting scammed
 
It makes you more trusted because it shows that the person actually has the money to pay for this stuff.
 
It makes you more trusted because it shows that the person actually has the money to pay for this stuff.

This is the most simple answer. It shows that the person is in fact a legit trader, and has the goods/money they are using to trade with.

Could write an essay, but it's not worth it, it's about the individual, and your opinion of them as a whole, not who their vouches are from.
 
they are not worthless.... but there are different kinds of vouches. its easier to spot a scammer with theyre vouches aswell, it could be someone else's vouches, could be made by them so always make sure you check peoples vouches.

uhhhhhhh, that has nothing to do with the point of this thread.
 
Vouches are given away for every little thing thats done, cant say someone is trusthworty, only trusting people wo have been here over 1-2 years + and 1k+ posts + vouches for owning a pin store for example.

It's the trader's responsibility to do their research and determine whether someone has vouches that actually mean something.
 
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The real problem with the system is that we use the word "vouch" too often.

vouch/vouCH/Verb
1. Assert or confirm as a result of one's own experience that something is true or accurately so described.

Basically, a vouch should actually only be given when you are nearly 100% sure someone is very trustworthy. When people "vouch" on Sythe, what they are really doing is leaving positive feedback. It's like on eBay when a deal goes as planned. Indeed, if someone sells me 100M, or even 1000M, and they go first, it does not prove they are trustworthy. All it proves is that they wanted to sell some gold safely. They were never in a position to scam, so nothing can be said about their legitimacy.

Or they merely were only seeking one legitimate vouch from a highly ranked person in order for others to go first in future trades, which inevitably could be part of a large plot to scam other people.

OT: I definitely agree with you.

One vouch from a high ranked/respected person doesn't mean much at all.
 
wauw, tought buying a pure from a OMM would be legit, well feren silver hacked me for 100m+ and got his account back wich i bought for 510m. gf around 650m!
 
I don't think it should be valued over a vouch from any other person, but in the same sense if you're needing vouches as a buyer it's good to have major sellers give you vouches that way when buying off lesser known sellers they'll feel a little safer knowing you are willing ot go through everything in a trade that a high ranked trusted seller would do for a trade. If you're talking about sales for like cheap sales though you might as well have no vouches because it takes a lot for a buyer or seller to trust the other and vouches don't always cut it IMO I like to definitely talk openly with the other person I'm thinking of doing business with for a while before I finally go ahead with any trade.
 
Ah, you are tooooooo correct.
I had problems with a guy over a 100mil trade(He was selling for VERY cheap, .4/mil)
He said he won't go first because he has more $ in vouches than me. And more trust in his vouches.

He had 4 vouches, each were him selling 1-2bil to the same person. And he was going first. Which he had NO trust in any of the trades. He still said he was more trusted than me. (I have sold over 75b~ just not "proof" of them all, as a lot of it was rl)
But still, people thinking THEM going first and receiving a vouch for THEM GOING FIRST, is giving them trust. It's not.
 
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