once a skemmer always a skemmer, the motto of the skemmers guild.org
It's funny because the people who are so desperately against the fact that I received the gold after the ban, based on Traxar's reputation, are the EXACT SAME PEOPLE who said I should be responsible for the gold 100% when it was banned originally. This is absolutely contradictory. If I am responsible for the gold, then it's my gold.
I am yet to see a valid argument against this:
How can I walk away from the trade without taking a massive risk? If Traxar's account was banned, reset, or if he tried to claim it was banned / reset, what can I possibly do? Anyone who has any understanding of how the market works would realize that I had no valid way of separating myself from the transaction. Furthermore, I await any actual proof that the gold he was selling was hacked/stolen. Sure, I raised suspicions in my case over responsibility for the gold, but ultimately nobody found them to be relevant to the transaction.
Furthermore, here is him refusing to confirm after the char was unbanned that he was in control and had the GP back:
[10/2/2013 3:20:27 PM] ` R2Pleasent Gold: i am no longer in control of the account
[10/2/2013 3:20:30 PM] ` R2Pleasent Gold: i do not have the password
[10/2/2013 3:20:32 PM] ` R2Pleasent Gold: confirm?
[10/2/2013 3:20:37 PM] ` R2Pleasent Gold: you have the gold and the char
[10/2/2013 3:30:11 PM] Traxar: do you agree that if the account gets banned again that you will pay me for however much gold we get off the account to your buyers at $0.23/mill ?
You'll notice he doesn't reply to me trying to separate myself from the trade. If I let him walk away, and he gets banned again, he will try to hold me responsible. I had no choice but to follow through on the trade.
@last 3 posts
Didnt read lololol
Besides deltas post. Dat nigga makes sense
Tell me why did you research the blackhat activity on trax and brought it up? Only reason I can think of is for your defense, which was to avoid paying the full amount or possibly paying nothing if possible. That was already a desperate move, having to resort to that. What other reason could it be? You obviously didnt pay him yet at that time, and you decide to pull up his blackhat activity for another reason than trying to pay less/nothing? You say his phat was most likely stolen, and then later say there is no proof. You are a man of 2 words. Like the snappie situation, you ignored when I said the point was you said that james was your associate, let him bump your thread, then later say he doesnt work for you and to recover any account you sold him.
Traxar basically admitted that the account and gold was in his possession. There was no way of saying the account would have been banned again. Your excuse are the odds of that happening are extremely slim, as Ive yet to hear jagex banning an account, unbanning it and then banning it once again.
This is you in the snappie incident:
James is my associate, contact him here.
James bumps your thread.
You then tell hamjam that he doesnt work for you and to recover any account that was sold to him.
And that whole time you were a moderator. Really pathetic that it had to come down to hamjam asking you than you banning him yourself. Explain that.
Now you mention in the report, before paying, trax's blackhat activity. For what reason other than to avoid paying as much as you are supposed to? You also said that the phat was most likely obtained illegitimately. Then now you have the balls to say it isnt stolen because there is no proof? You are basically saying it is ok to trade with well known hackers and scammers, what will Sythe do about it? They cant prove the gold they sold you was obtained illegitimately, there is no proof. Isnt it proof enough that it came out of your own mouth saying the phat was most likely obtained illegitimately? What if the account wouldnt get banned again? You went based off your assumption that it is ok to trade with him because if he got banned, you would be held responsible again. Now you are saying there is no proof it was stolen.
Evidence of knowingly accepting stolen goods will be grounds for perm ban in the future.
If the staff initially ordered you to pay him, wouldnt it make sense you consulted with them whether you should have still proceeded to buy it now knowing the account and gold was in his possession?
You say one thing, then say the opposite later. You just cant stick to 1 thing, you will move to which ever side benefits you the most, even if that means constantly changing sides.
If you let him walk away, and he gets banned again, he will try to hold you responsible? Why did you not choose to consult staf on this?
And why did you not just mention here that there is no proof the phat was stole? Because at this time, you were arguing that you had to buy it regardless if it was stolen. Now you are saying there is no proof. Oh and the sentence in bold was proof enough that he had everything back, a simple question with a moderator would have cleared everything up.
If you wont bother replying to all the points I made, then dont even bother replying.
^ how old are u bro? 48?
i have to agree with will here... it's getting fucking old AMM. no one thinks you're funny haha lol.
i still think sypherz is cute lol
^ how old are u bro? 48?
well atleast he removed the north american company thing, being that 90% of the people in his company don't even live in NA rofl.

