Verified Guides are shit?

[uselesspoop]

The guides in the Verified Guides Section are supposed to be verified by an OFFICIAL VERIFIER, to prove that the method actually works, and is actually brings in X amount of gp/hour.

I wish to feedback that official guide verifiers are not checking the guide thoroughly enough, and verifying guides which are already FREE and AVAILABLE on other forums, or verifying guides which methods are INCONSISTENT and far from the PROMISED GP/hour, or it is only currently at a high gp/hour because of a merch clan and will only work for a few days, or at most a week.

Here are some examples : http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=950650

The user , septicon is selling a guide which he promised 1300k/hour when i purchased it, and just a few days later, it becomes 800k/hour. No where in his thread does he state, that it only is working so well because of a MERCH clan, "wefightge" merching the item. Therefore, when the merch clan dumps the item, the guide is pointless and useless.

Furthermore, his guide , about killing Snakes and harvesting the Snake Hides is already FREE only Smokin mils forum : http://www.smokinelite.com/moneymaking-guides-f48/500-800k-an-hour-harvesting-snake-skins-t9636.htm

In Septicon's thread, one user had asked if it was about killing snakes for their hides, and septicon denied it, therefore the user had edited his post out. That is downright lying..

I pm'ed Septicon about his guide too, and requested for a refund, because it was already free and available on Smokin Mils forum. Sadly, all he did was to ignore me.

Why are such guides which are available free and only work because a merch clan is merching that item being verified by the official verifers?

Another example is : http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=953848

This kid was trying to sell 'his' guide for $20, and promised at least 10m/hour. Sadly, this is totally untrue as the items required for the method DO NOT EVEN BUY. Furthermore, this guide is also FREE on Smokin Mils forum : http://www.smokinelite.com/moneymaking-guides-f48/another-caldius4-gold-guide-t12432.htm

He managed to sell about 5 copies for $100. This is ridiculous as he is probably selling someone else's guide , and he is also selling something which is free already. what?

I feel that the official verifiers should do some research on the guides first, or actually TEST it by themselves.

 

I 100% agree with you.

Honestly most Mods will just read the guide briefly and then verify, and I feel that they should read it carefully, test it out first then get back to the guide seller.

But with that being said, most sellers looking to get their guides verified shouldn't hurry the verifier(s).

 

[FireZ]

You guys want the verifiers to verify @ 100 mph. When they do that guides get verified without being fully tested.

Its a vicious cycle and until people learn some patience its not going to happen.

Also not every guide works forever and they should be re-verified eventually.

Lastly hit the report button if you want 1 investigated and a mod will look into it.

 

[Bubba Fuzz]

Agreed. When a person is going to verify a guide they should look for it around to make sure it isn't on other forums and then actually try it them selves to see if it brings in a lot of cash.

 

[uselesspoop]

You guys want the verifiers to verify @ 100 mph. When they do that guides get verified without being fully tested.

Its a vicious cycle and until people learn some patience its not going to happen.

Also not ever guide works forever and they should be re-verified eventually.

Lastly hit the report button if you want 1 investigated.

Even if guide sellers want their guides to be verified quickly and as soon as possible, it is up to the official guide verifier when he wants to verify it, and how thoroughly he is going to verify it.

If the official guide verifier is incapable of testing the method to see if it actually works or does what it was advertised as , checking if it is already free/leeched from another forum and checking if it would still work when 10+ people use the method, then he should not be an official guide verifier and the job should be given to someone else.

 

[FireZ]

How are they supposed to know each and every guide on every other forum?

 

[FireZ]

If theres any guides you want re-evaluated, send me a PM and I'll see if I can do anything about them. If they are out of date then just report them.

 

[DARK BARRAGE]

I think that verified guides should mean mod's have tested the guide out make sure it works to what it says in title.

 

[FireZ]

Just cleaned verified guide sales out. Every guide older then 3 months was archived along with every guide by banned users, which was quite a few.

In the future just report any guide that doesn't work anymore or is free on another forum.

 

[uselesspoop]

thanks alot Firez!!

 

[septicon]

Just a little addition:

My guide was working and i think thats the main point of a verification: Is they guide realy working and is this guide a ripp off?

Regarding my guide:

It's closed now and I refunded you uselesspoop. I'm realy sorry for the trouble but to be true most (when not all guides) can be found on the internet and in my opinion it should be totaly fine if you buy a guide what can be on the internet (the post on the internet was 3 Months old) if this guide gives you additional information and help.

Maybe the person just wants a good money making methode and he dont want's too search 2 hours on the internt? (and how many people refuse to go to smoking mils )

Woudnt it be good enouth to post something like?

"verified. Through this guide can be found on the internet it gives the person some decent hints.."

 

[uselesspoop]

@Septicon

Thanks for refunding me, although it's only $2 i appreciate it alot.

Regarding your suggestion :

I feel that guides SOLD for money should not be available somewhere else FREE.

However, unless your guide has a twist to the method for example

( A method gets 5m/hour, but the supplies are impossible to buy ) and your guide teaches the buyer a different , efficient way of obtaining the item, then yes it can be sold.

Also, if you are selling a guide that is free somewhere else, there is bound to be people like me who has already known about the method, and will feel cheated, how would the guide seller deal with it?

If the guide seller decides to be the good guy and chooses to refund, which is the correct choice, how many people who bought the guide will also claim that they already knew of the method and would demand for a refund, even if this was their first time being exposed to the method?

In conclusion, i feel that guides which are released publicly for free on the internet , on other forums, should not be sold here and official verifiers should check before verifying.

 

It's simply annoying when you buy a method and it turns out to be just 50% of what you were told.

 

[septicon]

It's simply annoying when you buy a method and it turns out to be just 50% of what you were told.

I 100% agree. If you buy a Guide you should get exact that what it advertises. Through: IF some1 stats that a METHODE is already known but the GUIDE is giving people additional information, it should be allowed too.

People are free to sent me a PM asking me if this is the guide they are thinking it is only with the according Link so guessing will be harder.

 

[video]

Quality over quantity. I'm sure everyone would prefer that guide verifiers take their time to verify than to crank them out at 100 mph. Also, I've seen a lot of "this guide SEEMS to work", which suggests that verifiers don't actually test all the guides they receive. And as far as I know, there's no publicized criteria to be an official guide verifier. It just seems to be selected-it would definitely help to at least know what makes a guide verifier qualified

 

[septicon]

May I add: Please add the fremnik train amore making methode not allowed to sell. Many people are selling this methode here as uselesspoop stated.

 

[jkernan7553]

Thanks FireZ ^^^^

OT: I agree really. I think it may be possible to have to pay for a verification? This would be better because the verifiers would go into details about pros, cons, etc.

Maybe not though....just my opinion.

 

[uselesspoop]

May I add: Please add the fremnik train amore making methode not allowed to sell. Many people are selling this methode here as uselesspoop stated.

THIS.

 

[FireZ]

Link me please. Or report them.

 

[x llama i]

You guys want the verifiers to verify @ 100 mph. When they do that guides get verified without being fully tested.

Its a vicious cycle and until people learn some patience its not going to happen.

Also not every guide works forever and they should be re-verified eventually.

Lastly hit the report button if you want 1 investigated and a mod will look into it.

Enough said.