Vegetarians? Why?

[Arya]

i think vegetarians are acts. animals arent going to get saved cause you dont eat meat. people are going to kill the same amount no matter what.

If 500,000 people, including me, kill an animal every 5 seconds, and I decide that for the next 5 seconds, I won't kill one, then no, it won't be the same amount.

How is being a vegetarian an act, lol? You've never been, so stfu. Some feel that they simple are too weak, and admit to thus, to slaughter and/or consume an animal who has possibly shared it's thoughts, stepped where it's stepped, sniffed where it's sniffed, blinked when it's blinked, and such.

They know it's more natural then manufactured foods, and they sometimes change because of it's naturalness, but for some, it's about morals.

 

[Tavalaro]

If 500,000 people, including me, kill an animal every 5 seconds, and I decide that for the next 5 seconds, I won't kill one, then no, it won't be the same amount.

How is being a vegetarian an act, lol? You've never been, so stfu. Some feel that they simple are too weak, and admit to thus, to slaughter and/or consume an animal who has possibly shared it's thoughts, stepped where it's stepped, sniffed where it's sniffed, blinked when it's blinked, and such.

They know it's more natural then manufactured foods, and they sometimes change because of it's naturalness, but for some, it's about morals.

its a fucking animal you fucking friends with it. is it your best friend. you need meat to live. i dont want to fucking pop pills for the rest of my life just to get the amount of protein you get in meat. so i would rather want to get a big juicy steak them swallow a pill and get cotton mouth

 

[Java Got Me Owned]

maybe it's because their parents were vegetarians

 

[The Fat Controller]

i dont want to fucking pop pills for the rest of my life just to get the amount of protein you get in meat.

I guess it's just lucky that vegetarians don't have to pop ANY PILLS in order to stay healthy, while getting everything the body needs in their diets.

 

[Arya]

its a fucking animal you fucking friends with it. is it your best friend.

Have you ever heard of the saying, "A dog is a man's best friend?".

you need meat to live.

Yes, this is why there are billions of vegetarians living, right? I guess all herbivores are extinct, right? Why don't you get your information right and stop trying to make someone else sound dumb.

i dont want to fucking pop pills for the rest of my life just to get the amount of protein you get in meat.

Okay. I'll eat salads for 5 years, and you eat your red meat and bacon for 5 years. Let's see who has to be the first to get on medicine or take pills to get protein. I PROMISE you it'll be you.

so i would rather want to get a big juicy steak them swallow a pill and get cotton mouth

No one cares what you rather. This thread isn't title "Carnivores? Why?". If you feel like eating a steak, get off of the computer, do so, and mind your own.

maybe it's because their parents were vegetarians

No where near. I have yet to meet a vegetarian who would deny their selves meet simply because their parents do. It's mainly about morals, or religion.

 

[★Simplicity★]

I don't understand vegetarians...

All the meat is chopped up and sold in stores anyhow, and it will just go bad if you don't eat it.

 

[Arya]

I don't understand vegetarians...

All the meat is chopped up and sold in stores anyhow, and it will just go bad if you don't eat it.

The more vegetarians, the less meat that has to be chopped up, sold in stores, and go bad.

 

[Swan]

The more vegetarians, the less meat that has to be chopped up, sold in stores, and go bad.

Vegetarians make up a minority of the market, and most humans are brought up eating meat, hence maybe a vegetarian or two will appear out of many thousands. You're basing your argument on "what ifs", and they aren't quite enough to sway the slaughterhouse I'm afraid.

Besides, I don't give a fuck about the animals. We aren't going to run out of cows any time soon, so I fail to see a need to conserve them. Similarly, sheep, chicken and so on are in the millions, therefore there's not much of a need to save a few hundred from slaughter. The common stock are not endangered animals.

Solong as humans are the dominant race, we will eat meat. That's how things work. Our intelligence allowed us to surpass that of other animals and multiply. I think you're failing to see that we were once preyed upon before we gathered means of defense against predators. If animals kill us without any moral wrongs, simply for food, why not kill them? The only part of the loop that is broken in that circle, is they can't defend themselves and we can.

 

[Tgump]

Ok, chimps...you know what happens to a plant when you cut it in half? IT DIES.

You know that juice that comes out of plants when you cut it open? YEAH THAT'S PLANT BLOOD.

 

[LegitNamesCo]

Being a vegetarian is bad for the body.

You don't get the sufficient vitamins, minerals, etc that you get from meat.

 

[Oephi]

Being a vegetarian is bad for the body.

You don't get the sufficient vitamins, minerals, etc that you get from meat.

Not naturally, anyway. Vitamin supplements are needed for a few types of vitamins.

 

[The Fat Controller]

Being a vegetarian is bad for the body.

You don't get the sufficient vitamins, minerals, etc that you get from meat.

My God! Will you fools please read this thread and at least get a source which tries to argue that vegetarians can't get the necessary nutrients from normally grown food? I'm sick and tired of these assertions.

Not naturally, anyway. Vitamin supplements are needed for a few types of vitamins.

As above.

Read: http://www.adajournal.org/article/PIIS0002822303002943/fulltext

Or if that addles your ignorant minds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian_nutrition

Vegetarians make up a minority of the market, and most humans are brought up eating meat, hence maybe a vegetarian or two will appear out of many thousands

Vegetarians make up more like 3 in every 100 people, actually.

If animals kill us without any moral wrongs, simply for food, why not kill them? The only part of the loop that is broken in that circle, is they can't defend themselves and we can.

Humans decide what is morally wrong, and most humans do give a shit about how animals are treated before and during their trip to the slaughterhouse, as well as the process itself. I for one haven't argued that eating meat is morally wrong, but that allowing for excessive suffering of the animal is.

 

[Oephi]

My God! Will you fools please read this thread and at least get a source which tries to argue that vegetarians can't get the necessary nutrients from normally grown food? I'm sick and tired of these assertions.



As above.

Read: http://www.adajournal.org/article/PIIS0002822303002943/fulltext

Or if that addles your ignorant minds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian_nutrition

Vegetarian diets can be relatively low in protein, iron, zinc, vitamin B12, calcium, omega-3 fatty acids, retinol (vitamin A), vitamin D, riboflavin (vitamin B2) and iodine. Vegans may have particularly low intakes of vitamin B12 and Calcium

From the same reference you gave.

 

[LegitNamesCo]

I and every vegetarian I know get all the required vitamins from our regular diets, and we don't take any sort of vitamin supplement, so stop spouting crap! This is the fifth time I've said this on this thread! You're smart enough to quote what someone said earlier, but you're not smart to read my posts proving time and again that your position is false!

Iron is mainly derived from meat products, eggs, legumes, etc.

"Low levels of iron in the blood can cause the soles of the feet to burn. Other symptoms of low iron levels include: partial deafness, brittle nails, pale skin, night sweats, eye soreness, the feeling that you're not getting enough air, asthma, weak rectal muscles, tired in the morning but feeling better at night, heart palpitations, cold feet, sore joints, ankle swelling, loss of bladder control, lack of concentration and difficulty remembering. Sounds a lot like old age doesn't it. Maybe that's why they call iron "The mineral of youth.""


-http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/462410/a_lack_of_iron_in_the_blood_may_cause.html

so i would rather want to get a big juicy steak them swallow a pill and get cotton mouth

You can't get cotton mouth from taking pills, mostly only from smoking..

 

[The Fat Controller]

Vegetarian diets can be relatively low in protein, iron, zinc, vitamin B12, calcium, omega-3 fatty acids, retinol (vitamin A), vitamin D, riboflavin (vitamin B2) and iodine. Vegans may have particularly low intakes of vitamin B12 and Calcium

Nice intellectual dishonesty !

The real quote:

Poorly planned vegetarian diets can be relatively low in protein, iron, zinc, vitamin B12, calcium, omega-3 fatty acids, retinol (vitamin A), vitamin D, riboflavin (vitamin B2) and iodine. Vegans may have particularly low intakes of vitamin B12 and calcium.

And not only that, it follows it up directly with this:

Nonetheless, well-balanced vegetarian and vegan diets can meet all these nutrient requirements and are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence.

Which just happens to be sourced to this article: http://www.adajournal.org/article/PIIS0002822303002943/fulltext, which I included in my last post! :laugh:

Iron is mainly derived from meat products, eggs, legumes, etc.

Vegetarians can eat eggs and legumes, nor is it hard to get iron in a vegetarian diet. What are you getting at?

 

[Cymru]

My friend's brother has recently decided to become a vegetarian. I wondered why he did it. I asked him and he responded "Because of the way we treat animals, don't you think it's bad?" Personally I do think that sometimes we treat animals bad, but is it bad when a cheetah kills a gazelle? The cheetah needs to eat to survive, so do we.
So I wanted to know, why do vegetarians feel that it is necessary to be..well vegetarians! When you eat vegetables do you think that they are not living beings? They are. You might say "They don't have feelings! It's different!" Well...its not, killing is killing.

I don't see how eating leaves stop the animals being treated bad.

 

[LegitNamesCo]

Nice intellectual dishonesty !

The real quote:



And not only that, it follows it up directly with this:



Which just happens to be sourced to this article: http://www.adajournal.org/article/PIIS0002822303002943/fulltext, which I included in my last post! :laugh:



Vegetarians can eat eggs and legumes, nor is it hard to get iron in a vegetarian diet. What are you getting at?

In a vegetarian diet, iron is scarce.

You have to resort to vitamin pills.

In a normal diet, you don't. You have all the iron you need.

 

[Shredderbeam]

In a vegetarian diet, iron is scarce.

You have to resort to vitamin pills.

In a normal diet, you don't. You have all the iron you need.

http://www.google.com/search?q=vege...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

 

[LegitNamesCo]

http://www.google.com/search?q=vege...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Thanks.

So, male needs between 8-11mg of iron for intake daily.

Right?

So, Fat Controller. Do you HONESTLY get that much iron?

 

[The Fat Controller]

In a vegetarian diet, iron is scarce.

You have to resort to vitamin pills.

In a normal diet, you don't. You have all the iron you need.

You can see for yourself how wrong you are by reading the sources I link you to, as opposed to deliberately misquoting them.

So, Fat Controller. Do you HONESTLY get that much iron?

Erm, yeah. Let's take a random day; cereal for breakfast, toast later, an omelet and beans at dinner, and I've already got more than my iron RNI.

And I'd eat a hell of a lot more than just that anyway