[Tutorial] How to Increase (&Predict) Number of Running Bots

[wackywamba]

I'll jump right into it as we all know why this is here.

Specs to Determine # of Bots you can Run
In the botting world, you have to balance your RAM and CPU to avoid bottlenecking. I'll address this by client.

RAM - Pretty straight forward as you're simply looking at the capacity.

• Nexus - Allocate 500mb per bot
• RSBuddy- Allocate 250mb per bot

CPU - Bit more complicated, you have to take into account number of processes and speed.

• Nexus
  • I5 [Gen1] will run 4 bots at 2.2GHz up to around 8 at 3.3GHz
  • I5 [Gen2] will run 16 bots at 2.6GHZ
  • I7 will run 3 bots at 2.2GHz up to around 16 at 3.3GHz
• RSBuddy
  • I5 [Gen1] will run 6 bots at 2.2GHz up to around 10 at 3.3GHz
  • I7 [Gen1] will run 8 bots at 2.2GHz, 14 at 2.67Ghz up to around 20 at 3.3GHz
  • I7 [Gen2] will run 26 bots at 2.6GHz
• Powerbot
  • I7 [Gen1] will run upwards of 24 bots at 2.8GHz

*Cooling system can be stock for most of it, only if you're OC'ing do you really have to look at getting a better cooling system.

Yes, start the flame.

This is based on my personal experience - if you can give better numbers I can change it, these are the stats that will ensure no lag, although they could probably be pushed.

I've neglected to include TriBot, which has significantly lower CPU and Memory usage in comparison to either RSBuddy or Nexus. Also, by using the CPU reducing options on RSBuddy you can look to add around 2 or 3 bots onto the total.



Ways to Improve Performance for Botting

• Download CCleaner (http://www.piriform.com/CCLEANER) - Use this to clean registries (debatable) and free up memory.
• Go to start->run. Type in "msconfig", go to the "startup" tab. In this tab you have a list of processes that will start when you boot up your PC. Uncheck all of the processes you don't HAVE to use at the time of startup.
• Go to task manager (ctrl+alt+delete) - change to the "process tab". Click on the "Mem Usage" tab to organize in descending order. Right-click on javaw.exe and set priority to "High".
• Use a good anti-virus and scan regularly. I'd recommend Norton, it uses a lot of resources, but it ensures a clean computer which is more important. Consider AVG if you want a free anti-virus program. As suggested by gffr00b - Microsoft Essentials is a good alternative if you plan on keeping viruses to a minimum anyways as it is low on resources.
  

  I would throw up Advanced System Care 5 up there aswell, it's a great registry cleaner IMO.

  If you want a usable machine while botting, reserve one core to handle your other processes. In Windows you do this by setting process affinity in task manager.

These are just some tips you can use to improve your botting experience, if you have anything to add simply post and I'll add it in crediting you.

Once again, I don't claim this to be an all-encompassing guide, this is based on personal experience so your figures and input would be appreciated.

How to Hide your Client

1. Download PowerMenu (http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/PowerMenu.shtml)
2. Right-click on the process in your start bar that you want to minimize -> 'Minimize to Tray'.

How to Hide your Client COMPLETELY

• Right-click next on clock and select 'Properties'
• Select 'Hide inactive icons'
• Go to customize and ensure that your icon is set to hidden when inactive

Hope it helped


Mods: I understand this should probably be posted in the guides section, but by the amount of "how many bots can I run" around here, I thought this might be a better place to put it.

Feel free to move it.

 

[Kewpa]

I think your rsbuddy i7 numbers are not exactly correct.

There is now the first gen i7, and the 2nd gen i7. The 2nd gen is a whole lot more powerful at the same clock speed.

I have a 2nd gen i7 2720qm (2.2 ghz turbo to 3.2) And I have ran a maximum of 22 bots on it at once. It was clocking itself at 2.6 ghz during that time.

 

[wackywamba]

Thanks kewpa, I've included that fact now.

Just trying to maintain them at a "no lag" basis, also I've left out any degree of OC'ing.

 

[gffr00b]

Your bot to cpu ratio's are horribly wrong; not sure what they are but it's way higher than what you suggest, especially for the lower end cpu's. Just so you know I can easily run 10-15 if not more bots using nexus client with my 2nd gen i5-2500 cpu

Cooling stock most likely won't do if you're near maxing out your cpu. Buy a Coolmaster hyper 212(+) (if you're using an Intel core i cpu)

Ccleaner will not make bots run faster as the program literally clears temp files and other junk off your pc; it does not in any way make your memory or processor run faster.

You recommend Norton? Really? Norton is horrible and will slow your computer down a lot; use microsoft security essentials as it hardly uses any resources and catches the majority of viruses.

Only useful bit of info here is about msconfig (can use ccleaner if you are intimidated by the interface) and setting the java processes to run at a higher priority.

 

[wackywamba]

Your bot to cpu ratio's are horribly wrong; not sure what they are but it's way higher than what you suggest, especially for the lower end cpu's. Just so you know I can easily run 10-15 if not more bots using nexus client with my 2nd gen i5-2500 cpu

Thank you I will get to editing this now.

Cooling stock most likely won't do if you're near maxing out your cpu. Buy a Coolmaster hyper 212(+) (if you're using an Intel core i cpu)

I said I'm going to keep this on a no lag basis with no OC'ing that is why I said the stock cooling will help.

Ccleaner will not make bots run faster as the program literally clears temp files and other junk off your pc; it does not in any way make your memory or processor run faster.

It does make your computer run faster for over all performance - it clears your cache and temporary files which contribute to slower performance. Clearing registers (as I noted is debatable) also contributes to the overall performance of your PC running faster.

You recommend Norton? Really? Norton is horrible and will slow your computer down a lot; use microsoft security essentials as it hardly uses any resources and catches the majority of viruses.

As I said, I recommend it as it's incredibly proficient at catching viruses - I did also say that it is a resource hog, so it is the readers choice. I will mention your suggestion about Microsoft essentials.

Thanks again.

 

[xkronic]

Thanks for the tips.

 

[LovaTM]

This is a good guide, I would throw up Advanced System Care 5 up there aswell, it's a great registry cleaner IMO.

 

[wackywamba]

Checked it out LovaTm, added it to the guide thanks.

 

[Falmar]

Great guide im already doing it but thanks

 

[euro-case]

Have u though that there are less and more cpu intense scripts? For example, you can run 10 hunter bots or watever and only 3 soulwars, ofc these calculations are probably wrong, but u get the idea.

 

[wackywamba]

Have u though that there are less and more cpu intense scripts? For example, you can run 10 hunter bots or watever and only 3 soulwars, ofc these calculations are probably wrong, but u get the idea.

Yeah, by no means are these numbers set in stone; it's just a general idea to go by. I've noticed AutoFighterPro seems to lag more so than any other bot I've tried on the Nexus client.

 

[Kiwi Karma]

AVG Free > Norton

 

[gffr00b]

It does make your computer run faster for over all performance - it clears your cache and temporary files which contribute to slower performance. Clearing registers (as I noted is debatable) also contributes to the overall performance of your PC running faster.

It'll clear your web browser cache / temp files but if you suggest this will help make bots rum quicker then you don't know what you're on about.

As I said, I recommend it as it's incredibly proficient at catching viruses - I did also say that it is a resource hog, so it is the readers choice. I will mention your suggestion about Microsoft essentials.

I will stress that you do not want your computer resources taken by a terrible anti virus solution when your bots should be using those resources. Also for those that suggested AVG, please? Like Norton they have turned to crap recently. The A.V isn't the best at catching viruses and it's now a massive resource hog; MSE, and Vipre are among the best.

Feel free to ignore sound advise from someone who works in IT. I don't wish to argue with you, but a lot of advice you are giving out is wrong or not correct...

 

[wackywamba]

It'll clear your web browser cache / temp files but if you suggest this will help make bots rum quicker then you don't know what you're on about.

Now let me educate you, when I said, "clearing your cache and registries will improve your overall performance ", did I say I was talking about bot speed? No, I don't seem to read that anywhere in that sentence. I was talking about the overall performance of your computer. This in turn relates to freeing up memory which would otherwise be wasted on these resources.

I will stress that you do not want your computer resources taken by a terrible anti virus solution when your bots should be using those resources. Also for those that suggested AVG, please? Like Norton they have turned to crap recently

As I stated NUMEROUS times, I'm suggesting Norton for the sole reason that it is effective. I also mentioned that yes, it is a resource hog; however, in the run it is more beneficial to have an effective anti-virus. If the reader decides against this, I have listed alternatives.

Feel free to ignore sound advise from someone who works in IT. I don't wish to argue with you, but a lot of advice you are giving out is wrong or not correct...

The fact that you work in IT doesn't mean you understand how a computer works, it means you're probably like the rest of the IT industry with a one year certificate (if even) under your belt and now you feel like you're qualified in every part of the field.

Consider any other of your posts to be reported and they will be removed, I stated that constructive criticism for this thread will be appreciated. Your passive-aggressive comments aren't going to be tolerated.

 

[Never Back Down]

Nice guide, ive got one questions, how to know which "gen" is my cpu? Im using i7

 

[wackywamba]

Nice guide, ive got one questions, how to know which "gen" is my cpu? Im using i7

Generation 1 is named as Core i7-XXX i.e. Core i7-9xx

Generation 2 is named as Core i7-XXXX i.e. Core i7-3820 (Sandy Bridge)

If you're still confused post the processor name and I'll let you know.

 

[Never Back Down]

Generation 1 is named as Core i7-XXX i.e. Core i7-9xx

Generation 2 is named as Core i7-XXXX i.e. Core i7-3820 (Sandy Bridge)

If you're still confused post the processor name and I'll let you know.

Woot im on 2nd gen then ;P intel core i7-2600 (no K sadly, was so nooby not to take K )

 

[hint]

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz

i have ran up to 14 bots(rsbuddy) on this processor with absolutely no problems what so ever, i would assume i could handle up towards 20 bots at a time. but you might be right about the 16 bots @ 3.3.. will test out later.(also some bots were not rendered because i was babysitting my main and 2 member accounts.

you might want to include internet connect requirements, since someone wouldn't be able to run a handful of bots on a 3 Mbps down connection.

nice guide btw. sticky to this forum anyone ?

 

[Never Back Down]

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz

i have ran up to 14 bots(rsbuddy) on this processor with absolutely no problems what so ever, i would assume i could handle up towards 20 bots at a time. but you might be right about the 16 bots @ 3.3.. will test out later.(also some bots were not rendered because i was babysitting my main and 2 member accounts.

you might want to include internet connect requirements, since someone wouldn't be able to run a handful of bots on a 3 Mbps down connection.

nice guide btw. sticky to this forum anyone ?

Dude im running 7 bots on 400KB/s internet atm, surfing, watching youtube and got like 10 tabs open in mozzila, lol.

 

[Airman Gilbert]

Dude im running 7 bots on 400KB/s internet atm, surfing, watching youtube and got like 10 tabs open in mozzila, lol.

I can believe it. My friend used AT@T 3g speeds while we were in tech school to play WOW on his laptop. He used his iPhone as a wireless router and connected his laptop and played WOW with no lag while he was dueling. I was also doing the same thing and we were getting about 30kb/s. So 30kb/s and you can play WOW.