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Tricky Account Scam; Sellers BEWARE.

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SwiftSeller

SwiftSeller

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Well I've been trading on the Black Market here for nearly a whole year now and recently (past 2 months) on two occasions I have found this new scam bubbling about the Account Sales Section, so therefore I believe that it is spreading.

The purpose of this scam is for the seller to be banned on Sythe.org, and if the buyer plays the chargeback and recovery right, he could gain his money back, but it isn't certain. There is no way to dispute it because the fake evidence will convince anyone that the seller stole the account back. The point of this scam may seem odd because there is potentially no gain to the scammer whatsoever (unless they can re-recover the account).

Below I have a breakdown on how it has worked both time that I've been scammed. (FYI: I just got lucky and recovered both accounts, so the scam failed.)

The scam is usually done with PayPal because the buyer will just chargeback the payment and recover the account (provided that the seller gave full account details) when the scam is done. If the recovery fails, the scammer loses nothing and still gets you banned. If the recovery goes through, the scammer gets you banned, and gets your account.

For the sake of the example lets use SytherA and SytherB, with SytherA being the seller and SytherB being the buyer (scammer).
  • SytherA decides to sell his RuneScape account for $50 to SytherB.
  • SytherA and B both ignorantly agree that a MM isn't needed because they're both trusted.
  • The trade goes spactacular and SytherA gets his $50 while SytherB gets his account.
  • SytherB (scammer) then waits a few days and comes back to SytherA either accusing him of recovering the account or saying someone else stole it.
  • SytherA will of course reject the idea that he/she stole it because its true.
  • SytherB then asks SytherA to recover the account for him/her because he/she "forgot" the details of the account. (You may see other reasons such as: no/low internet connection, don't know how, not enough time).
  • SytherA figures that he/she would be nice and just get the account back for the person and give them the new password via MSN, Yahoo, AIM, etc.
  • Once the account is recovered SytherA meets SytherB in a chat and SytherB asks "Did you take the account back?", a very neutral question that can be taken both ways. (other ways can be: "Did you recover my account?")
  • SytherA, already knowing what he/she is talking about, will say "yes."
  • Now before anyone says anything else, SytherB will screenshot the chat where SytherA "admits" to scamming him/her.
  • The aftermath results in SytherA being banned from Sythe.org from scamming, SytherB re-recovering the account and chargingback on PayPal to gain $50 and the account, and theres nothing SytherA can do about it because he/she is banned now.
And the rest is history, there is honestly no way that someone can dispute (fake) evidence like that.

Moral of the story is to NEVER be nice and volunteer to help someone get thier account back, regardless of ethics. If they truely need it back, give them the details again, don't get it yourself.

I hope this thread gets stickied in the Account Sales Section so that others may avoid this scam before it becomes a real problem.
 
Did you got banned on your account for scamming or you traded like that? 'cause i've never seen it.
 
yes that is something we all should watch out for.
and yes i also do thing this should be stickied, scammers are always thinking of tricks like that.
but as long as its your own account (like you made it and such) you will always be able to recover it, but if they know enough info they can always recover sometimes too, so it will go on until one gives up or the acc ends up banned. :/

EmilG said:
Did you got banned on your account for scamming or you traded like that? 'cause i've never seen it.
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its called reading the fucking thread. if you read instead of trying to get post count you would have known. ;)

he said he almost got scammed, look below
SwiftSeller said:
Below I have a breakdown on how it has worked both time that I've been scammed. (FYI: I just got lucky and recovered both accounts, so the scam failed.)
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Yeah that makes sense , thanks for the heads up!
 
It has been tried on me by a few people who aren't banned yet, but I won't go into details. I'm going to keep my head up and watch around for this and hopefully save some people some of their hard work, thus not being scammed.
 
EmilG said:
Did you got banned on your account for scamming or you traded like that? 'cause i've never seen it.
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First Paragraph ftw?

And thanks everyone for the support on it. Its really a problem that at least 2 peopel know about to my knowledge, and its very hard to report someone for scamming like this because either there is no evidence or you're already falsely banned.

I would really like if this is stickied in each trading section.
 
1. Once you have sold an account don't ever touch it again unless asked to.
2. If asked to, get all evidence of it to prevent such a stupid situation like this. (You should already have all evidence of any transaction you've done, to protect your ass from the huge scammer userbase on Sythe.org)
2b. Don't do it even if asked to because it's his/her account and problem now, not yours. If the person is such a fuckup to forget/lose their password or recoveries for the account then what is stopping him/her from losing it again.

Problem solved.
 
FG4 said:
1. Once you have sold an account don't ever touch it again unless asked to.
2. If asked to, get all evidence of it to prevent such a stupid situation like this. (You should already have all evidence of any transaction you've done, to protect your ass from the huge scammer userbase on Sythe.org)
2b. Don't do it even if asked to because it's his/her account and problem now, not yours. If the person is such a fuckup to forget/lose their password or recoveries for the account then what is stopping him/her from losing it again.

Problem solved.
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thanks you pretty much said exactly what I did... Only I elaborated on how they do it...
 
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Its just perfect guide to avoid it.

Stick it in Account Section
 
Yeah this is definantly a smart guide but alot of people arent going to see it unfortunantly unless it does get stickied. ill definantly keep my eyes open for this though.

Gl and Good idea :)
 
sluuuder410 said:
Just don't trade on Sythe without an OMM. Any other way someone will scam you no matter what.
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Bs much? OMM can be very expensive for little trades. Why not just use a trusted, free UMM?

Thanks for the heads-up (although I don't use the market), but I'm sure this will help somebody from not getting scammed. Also, not to backseat mod or anything, but I think this might be the wrong forum?
 
Jimmy5410 said:
Bs much? OMM can be very expensive for little trades. Why not just use a trusted, free UMM?

Thanks for the heads-up (although I don't use the market), but I'm sure this will help somebody from not getting scammed. Also, not to backseat mod or anything, but I think this might be the wrong forum?
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Yeah I ment OMM for big trades and free MM for little ones. Not saying everyone on Sythe is a scammer but a vast majority is.
 
I haven't seen this before, but thanks for the heads up. You should always be careful when you are talking to people that you deal with on here.
 
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