To Catch A Predator

[Arya]

Perhaps, but I'm not really into the whole thought crime thing. As far as I'm concerned, no crime was committed.

In the states that they film in, "Trying to seduce a minor over the internet" is a crime. "Attempting to and/or send(ing) sexual and/or vulgar images to a minor over the internet" is also a crime. So, as far it's reality goes, even though they never "pedo"'ed, a crime was committed.

which is what those fat white bitches are doing.

and for those who think it's fair, if you walk down a street and you see a hobo and he hands you a gun and asks you to shoot him, and you are about to do it, then the police comes out and arrests you for intended murder? Would that be fair?

You did intend to murder the hobo.

 

[The Riddler_]

In the states that they film in, "Trying to seduce a minor over the internet" is a crime. "Attempting to and/or send(ing) sexual and/or vulgar images to a minor over the internet" is also a crime. So, as far it's reality goes, even though they never "pedo"'ed, a crime was committed.



You did intend to murder the hobo.

Age doesn't determine maturity.

 

[Chantecleer]

In the states that they film in, "Trying to seduce a minor over the internet" is a crime. "Attempting to and/or send(ing) sexual and/or vulgar images to a minor over the internet" is also a crime. So, as far it's reality goes, even though they never "pedo"'ed, a crime was committed.



You did intend to murder the hobo.

ok what if there's a guy out there who is imagining having sex with you? Should the mind police arrest him for that?

 

[W⃃l€s §u¢k]

You must understand, set-up or not these men agree to meeting with a underage individual for 99% of the time, sexual relations. Under no circumstances is it the faults of those who are involved in the process of catching the child-molester. All of those who are caught on the TV show are willing to drive hundreds of miles, and multiple hours to see and have a sexual encounter with the underage child they have meet on the internet. It is not the fault of those who set up these captures, it is only the fault of the individual who agrees.

 

[The Riddler_]

How does that relate to his post?

Well, it's a little off-topic, but just because the kid is underage, doesn't mean the pictures will scare them for life.

 

[The_Ace]

I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

If you read what they say they dont really lead them on that much, also some of them drive like 2 hours to see them, so that is putting in quite the effort to see the girls.

 

[Chantecleer]

How does that relate to his post?



That's the worst argument I've ever heard. He didn't act upon the thought, isn't infringing on anyone's rights, and isn't breaking a law.

which is exactly the same, as none of those guys are breaking any laws.

 

[Arya]

Age doesn't determine maturity.

It doesn't matter how mature the minor is. By law, he/she IS a minor, and it's against the law to try to seduce one over the internet, among other things.

ok what if there's a guy out there who is imagining having sex with you? Should the mind police arrest him for that?

If there were a such a force such as the mind police, then I suppose.

Well, it's a little off-topic, but just because the kid is underage, doesn't mean the pictures will scare them for life.

It's not a life factor. That's what Dateline NBC is trying to avoid. Life threatening situations. Hence the decoys, ect.

which is exactly the same, as none of those guys are breaking any laws.

"Attempting to seduce a minor over the internet."

"Attempting to and/or sending vulgar, sexual images to a minor."

If you shoot at someone and miss their head, it's still against the law.

QFT.

 

[Chantecleer]

If there were a such a force such as the mind police, then I suppose.

somehow that reminds me of censorship in china... are you chinese/north korean by any chance?

jk but controlling people' thoughts is just the most horrid violation of personal rights I can imagine.

 

[Chantecleer]

So it's okay to shoot someone, as long as that's what you think about?

Honestly, the fact that you picked one of my and Arya's great points and analogies shows that your claim is groundless.

I'm just trying to say your analogies are not making much sense. What I am trying to prove is that sometimes people are not guilty but they get punished for a crime anyway.

 

[Chantecleer]

My analogies are perfect.
...but they are guilty. The fact that they showed up to the house shows their intent.

intent shmishment they came to a house because someone promised them sex, they were obviously enticed falsely, which I know is sick and I don't approve of it, but it's not fair that they are lured into a trap, because the scenarios they talk about online are not real.

 

[dam prayer noobs]

It doesn't matter how mature the minor is. By law, he/she IS a minor, and it's against the law to try to seduce one over the internet, among other things.

You act as if laws are 100% right and just. You realize 60 years ago we had a law that said separate but equal was ok? And then later we realized that law is fucked up and abolished it? What makes you so sure that the same wont happen to the laws you abide to right now?

 

[Kiabin]

Obviously this is right, as it would be saving a poor teenage girl/boy from who knows what might happen. I love the show, and when Chris Hansen comes out and is like, "What are you doing here."

 

[The True Gears]

You see, I think its wrong. Because a regular e-pedophile probably wouldnt go to a girls house, unless he was told the address, and pretty much assured sex. Which is exactly what they do. A normal teenage girl wouldn't do that.

 

[The Riddler_]

It doesn't matter how mature the minor is. By law, he/she IS a minor, and it's against the law to try to seduce one over the internet, among other things.

Yes it does. The only reason it is a law because he is a minor, is because everyone assumes that once you hit the age of 18, you are mature, and know what you're doing. If a 14 year old invites 40 year old men to fuck and bring alcohol, they know what they're doing.

It's only a law because you supposedly taking advantage of them. When clearly, some cases are not like that.

Obviously this is right, as it would be saving a poor teenage girl/boy from who knows what might happen. I love the show, and when Chris Hansen comes out and is like, "What are you doing here."

The only thing they are preventing is a possible rape. And I doubt EVERY person there is a rapist.

 

[xEldertoe]

They should do that because would you wana get murdered or rapped by someone? I dont think so, so misewell stop them.

 

[Kiabin]

They should do that because would you wana get murdered or rapped by someone? I dont think so, so misewell stop them.

Rapped? I didn't know there were rappers :laugh: .

But seriously... This is 100% necessary as the idiots actually fall for that crap and deserve to be in jail.

 

[Chantecleer]

You act as if laws are 100% right and just. You realize 60 years ago we had a law that said separate but equal was ok? And then later we realized that law is fucked up and abolished it? What makes you so sure that the same wont happen to the laws you abide to right now?

We also had a law that justified the age of sex at ten years old.

I guess these people are saying it's okay to do what is illegal (being a minor and giving the address) as long as they are over 18. So if I am over 18, following Arya's logic, I will have the right to pretend I am a leader of Al Qaeda and carry out terrorist operations as long as I pretend to.

 

[TJ]

They have yet to commit a crime, they only agree to it.

Doing and saying are two totally different things, so no the show is messed up. It has good intentions, but it lacks them doing something.

 

[Straggler]

It's fucking retarded, if the girl tells some stranger on the internet her address, tells him to come over, and then actually lets him in the house and lets him stick his dick in her pussy, then I don't know how the fuck it is the guy's fault. If the guy rapes her once he's in her house, then that's a different story. But if the 12 year old girl is stupid enough to let some random guy in her house, then wow I don't know what to say, the parents didn't do a good enough job teaching her about the real world.

Erm, sex with a minor is still against the law, even if it's consensual.