To all christians

[Peetu]

I've few questions to you:

1. If God is full of Love and care, why does (s)He let children die? I would understand if God punished only people who've done something wrong, but let's say that the child dies before getting born, what the reason behind that?

2. Define "Hell"?

3. Why do you believe? ( in God )

4. Again, if God is loving, why does (s)he require us to complete a "test" before proceeding to heaven / hell? After all, we could end up getting in Hell. Why does God let that happen?


These to start off.

 

[Iminess]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil#Free_will_theodicies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil#Soul-making_or_Irenaean_Theodicy

This is hilarious, and makes it twice the lol since its wikipedia.

This post has been infracted for spamming.
~ Finn

 

[pure skillzz]

I've few questions to you:

1. If God is full of Love and care, why does (s)He let children die? I would understand if God punished only people who've done something wrong, but let's say that the child dies before getting born, what the reason behind that?

God doesn't control fate. He basically just set the world in motion, and is letting it play out. Unless of course you believe in predestination, which most Christians don't.

2. Define "Hell"?

A place to suffer in the afterlife.

3. Why do you believe? ( in God )

Probably cause my family is strictly Catholic.

4. Again, if God is loving, why does (s)he require us to complete a "test" before proceeding to heaven / hell?After all, we could end up getting in Hell. Why does God let that happen?

There is a set of rules/guidelines you have to follow. That's like saying somebody broke the law, and was sent to jail. Why would the government let this happen?

What is there to even gain out of this? besides a boost to your ego.

 

[Peetu]

A place to suffer in the afterlife. - Suffer how?


Probably cause my family is strictly Catholic. - So it has nothing to do with your will?

What is there to even gain out of this? besides a boost to your ego.

So what your saying is that this is just a game of God, partically set up to boost his ego?

pure skillzz, please read the quote.

 

[pure skillzz]

Suffer how?

Depends on what religion you follow.

So it has nothing to do with your will?

Why I am Catholic has nothing to do with my will, but why I practice it does.

So what your saying is that this is just a game of God, partically set up to boost his ego?

How does God boost his ego? I'm still wondering what your trying to gain out of this.

 

[Nine Tailed Fox]

I've few questions to you:

1. If God is full of Love and care, why does (s)He let children die? I would understand if God punished only people who've done something wrong, but let's say that the child dies before getting born, what the reason behind that?

Why does it matter? Death is clearly better than life. The "Holy Book" says rejoice when someone dies and weep when someone is born, there is a reason for that.

2. Define "Hell"?
Being submissive in a relationship.. I hate being the bitch. (my opinion on hell.)
3. Why do you believe? ( in God )

Because I can.

4. Again, if God is loving, why does (s)he require us to complete a "test" before proceeding to heaven / hell? After all, we could end up getting in Hell. Why does God let that happen?

Because, like Sythe, he owns the show.

It's not healthy to ask questions you already have the answer to.

Also my I ask you those same questions, but reversed?

 

[Kleenex]

1. If God is full of Love and care, why does (s)He let children die? I would understand if God punished only people who've done something wrong, but let's say that the child dies before getting born, what the reason behind that?

He has his reasons. Gos doesn't "want" babies to die; he is not a murderer. He does things which me may or may not understand.

2. Define "Hell"?

A dark and horrible place where unworthy souls go after they die. It is also the home of Satan, the fallen angel.

3. Why do you believe? ( in God )

Because he's real. I've experienced his existence many times, although I'm sure you'll disagree

4. Again, if God is loving, why does (s)he require us to complete a "test" before proceeding to heaven / hell? After all, we could end up getting in Hell. Why does God let that happen?

Because our God is a jealous God. He commands us to believe in him. It's not really a test, for it is so simple to do so. Of course he loves us, but he must test us, too.

 

[Vini]

All of the above i agree to kleenex but the 4th questions,

4. Again, if God is loving, why does (s)he require us to complete a "test" before proceeding to heaven / hell? After all, we could end up getting in Hell. Why does God let that happen?

God gives us a test to succeed life and have a good life. There is no test were we go to hell if we 'fail'. If you just truly believe in god you will go to heaven.

 

[Kleenex]

All of the above i agree to kleenex but the 4th questions,

4. Again, if God is loving, why does (s)he require us to complete a "test" before proceeding to heaven / hell? After all, we could end up getting in Hell. Why does God let that happen?

God gives us a test to succeed life and have a good life. There is no test were we go to hell if we 'fail'. If you just truly believe in god you will go to heaven.

You don't have to succeed in life or be a good person. That's not part of the criteria.

 

[Peetu]

2. Define "Hell"?

A dark and horrible place where unworthy souls go after they die. It is also the home of Satan, the fallen angel.

Again, why does Satan want to live in that place? Also, you've clearly not read your bible, since it says nothing about hell, with the exception that it is a place that your away from god. All things about Hell being hot & dark & whatever are man-mades.

Also, you mentioned that God "doesn't want" babies to die. He still lets them.
Reason behind that? Also, Jesus, the loving one, sits on the right side of God, watching all that happen.

Reasons?

 

[Peetu]

You don't have to succeed in life or be a good person. That's not part of the criteria.

What are the reasons, then?
Luck?

 

[Kleenex]

Again, why does Satan want to live in Hell?

You think Satan wants to live there?

Also, you've clearly not read your bible, since it says nothing about hell, with the exception that it is a place that your away from god. All things about Hell being hot & dark & whatever are man-mades.

The New Testament describes hell as a bottomless pit (abyss) (Revelation 20:3), a lake (Revelation 20:14), darkness (Matthew 25:30), death (Revelation 2:11), destruction (2 Thessalonians 1:9), everlasting torment (Revelation 20:10), a place of wailing and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 25:30), and a place of gradated punishment (Matthew 11:20-24; Luke 12:47-48; Revelation 20:12-13).

Also, you mentioned that God "doesn't want" babies to die. He still lets them.
Reason behind that? Also, Jesus, the loving one, sits on the right side of God, watching all that happen.

Isaiah 55:8

You seem to think that Jesus is different than God. You clearly haven't read your Bible. Jesus is God, and God is Jesus. You're also implying that God doesn't love us. I assume by God you mean the Father. The Father loves us as much as the Son.

 

[Kleenex]

What are the reasons, then?
Luck?

I'm sorry? Reasons for what?

 

[Peetu]

I'm sorry? Reasons for what?

Oh, my bad.
I meant, what are the requirements of getting into heaven?

 

[Peetu]

You think Satan wants to live there?

Why does Satan live there, then?

 

[Iminess]

So god creates us, but then punishes for our sins, so in a way he is punishing us for his own mistakes?

Can we trust such a being? How do we know he hasn't screwed up heaven as well?

 

[Peetu]

So god creates us, but then punishes for our sins, so in a way he is punishing us for his own mistakes?

Can we trust such a being? How do we know he hasn't screwed up heaven as well?

If God exists, everything would be horrible. He first sets up a game, then sees all the bad things happening, and he's even taking part to them.
Sounds kinda like "Saw" movies to me.

 

[astalavistababy]

So god creates us, but then punishes for our sins, so in a way he is punishing us for his own mistakes?

Can we trust such a being? How do we know he hasn't screwed up heaven as well?

If God exists, everything would be horrible. He first sets up a game, then sees all the bad things happening, and he's even taking part to them.
Sounds kinda like "Saw" movies to me.

Here in UK we have compulsory Religious studies education, and everything you asked is basically common sense..

But quoting these two posts from these two members clearly shows how narrow minded some people are I would advice a moderator to close this before you give these two a headache.

 

[Iminess]

Here in UK we have compulsory Religious studies education, and everything you asked is basically common sense..

But quoting these two posts from these two members clearly shows how narrow minded some people are I would advice a moderator to close this before you give these two a headache.

Enlighten me on how Religion, or the understanding of God is common sense.

 

[Kleenex]

Oh, my bad.
I meant, what are the requirements of getting into heaven?

Believing in Jesus Christ, loving him and knowing that he died for our sins.

Why does Satan live there, then?

Because he can't leave.

So god creates us, but then punishes for our sins, so in a way he is punishing us for his own mistakes?

God doesn't make mistakes. It was Adam's mistake.

Can we trust such a being? How do we know he hasn't screwed up heaven as well?

How would he have screwed up Heaven?

If God exists, everything would be horrible. He first sets up a game, then sees all the bad things happening, and he's even taking part to them.
Sounds kinda like "Saw" movies to me.

Like I've said before, He doesn't kill people. And also, like I said before, His reasons are His own. We can't understand them.