Thoughts on this ruling?

[INNOKIN]

Zombie 32b Account Recovery

If zombie is the only one in possession of the recovery information then surely he is liable? Regardless of who sold the account to who. If he is literally the only one who is able to make the recovery then there’s only one person to blame?

not surprised pixel refused to refund if he has no access to recovery information.

or has zombie just found an infinite money glitch now?


TLDR:

Zombie recovered it. Wants pixel to pay for his scam.



can pixel not counter report zombie for the $500 and force him to pay it? Since it’s quite obvious zombie is either not the OO or is, and has recovered it.

 

[INNOKIN]

@RSGM Sales
@JoeyOSRS1
@Skiller12345
@Sand Flea
@tendyies

 

[Sand Flea]

Ye, honestly what the fuck are the mods doing. OP claims he's the original owner, he is the only one who can recover since he claims he never gave the recovery info to anyone else he sold it too. OP should be liable and pay back both his victims, obviously want though since hes a 1k donor sythe has his back. Congrats zombie on the 32b and the account back. Check back in a few months we will see the same account on the market again.

 

[Sand Flea]

Also to add, sythe's tos for account selling its bullshit, can just state you're not responsible after a month and recover and profit. If and account is sold by an OG owner they should be liable for recoveries for life, if the account gets banned or rwt then sure thats not on them, but its obviously not banned just recovered.

 

Sick tag.

Ruling is consistent with what was expected. Honestly I’m surprised Zombie even got a TWC.

1) the recovery warranty time had expired, so surprised he was held liable at all
2) the account passed ownership so multiple parties POTENTIALLY could recover.
3) wealth on the account is crapshoot and no way to prove, @Anomaly could have just done what degenerate gamblers do and get cleaned then try to recoup losses with a scam accusation.

 

[INNOKIN]

Ye, honestly what the fuck are the mods doing. OP claims he's the original owner, he is the only one who can recover since he claims he never gave the recovery info to anyone else he sold it too. OP should be liable and pay back both his victims, obviously want though since hes a 1k donor sythe has his back. Congrats zombie on the 32b and the account back. Check back in a few months we will see the same account on the market again.

precisely. If he openly admits no one has recovery information apart from him. And the account has been recovered. Then it’s fucking obvious he did it. Such a retarded ruling and I do feel bad for pixel because he’s been banned for basically not paying back a scam he never committed.

 

[INNOKIN]

Sick tag.

Ruling is consistent with what was expected. Honestly I’m surprised Zombie even got a TWC.

1) the recovery warranty time had expired, so surprised he was held liable at all
2) the account passed ownership so multiple parties POTENTIALLY could recover.
3) wealth on the account is crapshoot and no way to prove, @Anomaly could have just done what degenerate gamblers do and get cleaned then try to recoup losses with a scam accusation.

sorry baby I forgot you existed.

I don’t expect the wealth side to be upheld as a debt. But even when an account is sold on, the buying party would need a lot of information to recover it later down the line.

Jagex instantly refuse recoveries that don’t contain the creation date
Earliest passwords
Earliest credit card used
Previous emails

all of which pixel did not have access to

 

[Sand Flea]

Sick tag.

Ruling is consistent with what was expected. Honestly I’m surprised Zombie even got a TWC.

1) the recovery warranty time had expired, so surprised he was held liable at all
2) the account passed ownership so multiple parties POTENTIALLY could recover.
3) wealth on the account is crapshoot and no way to prove, @Anomaly could have just done what degenerate gamblers do and get cleaned then try to recoup losses with a scam accusation.

Agree to an extent, but as far as the recovery itself, that's very hard to do even after being transferred multiple times. Jagex wants the exact creation details, isp used, og password, etc. Any of the people past the og have slim chances (less than 5 percent id say) of actually submitting a successful recovery.

As far as the wealth yea its unfortunate but very hard to prove unless homie was a streamer who plays everyday and has vods to back it up.

 

[Sand Flea]

Agree to an extent, but as far as the recovery itself, that's very hard to do even after being transferred multiple times. Jagex wants the exact creation details, isp used, og password, etc. Any of the people past the og have slim chances (less than 5 percent id say) of actually submitting a successful recovery.

As far as the wealth yea its unfortunate but very hard to prove unless homie was a streamer who plays everyday and has vods to back it up.

Also to add, I've had my own accounts banned for botting and tried the 'hacked' option and went through the recovery route to try and have them unbanned. Even being the OG owner knowing the details I've had trouble trying to get jagex to accept my recovery appeals.

 

You don’t necessarily need all that to recover accounts lol. I bought an account in 2021 and I’ve been able to do recoveries on it to squash bans and I have none of that info.

Example:

1. I make a credit card payment
2. I change the password 3x to have passwords
3. I say I moved houses when I bought the account
4. I go to Hans to get creation date
5. Jagex is stupid/inconsistent and lets me recover

is this always the case? No. But it’s possible.

 

[INNOKIN]

You don’t necessarily need all that to recover accounts lol. I bought an account in 2021 and I’ve been able to do recoveries on it to squash bans and I have none of that info.

Example:

1. I make a credit card payment
2. I change the password 3x to have passwords
3. I say I moved houses when I bought the account
4. I go to Hans to get creation date
5. Jagex is stupid/inconsistent and lets me recover

is this always the case? No. But it’s possible.

Yeah but you’re black as fuck so that’s just part of the reparations for your people, seriously though the chance of pixel being able to recover an account like that with so much history is slim to none.

 

[Sand Flea]

You don’t necessarily need all that to recover accounts lol. I bought an account in 2021 and I’ve been able to do recoveries on it to squash bans and I have none of that info.

Example:

1. I make a credit card payment
2. I change the password 3x to have passwords
3. I say I moved houses when I bought the account
4. I go to Hans to get creation date
5. Jagex is stupid/inconsistent and lets me recover

is this always the case? No. But it’s possible.

I can see that. But at the end of the day does anyone here trust someone named Zombie :') Congrats on the scam man, I'm taking notes.

 

At least his names not @PerfectCrime and trying to hire someone to make a 2277 from scratch and no payment until complete

 

#excessivesketchybehavior

 

[INNOKIN]

At least his names not @PerfectCrime and trying to hire someone to make a 2277 from scratch and no payment until complete

that sounds like some Chinese sweatshop shit right there

 

[Sand Flea]

At least his names not @PerfectCrime and trying to hire someone to make a 2277 from scratch and no payment until complete

I wanna say no way this can't be real, but people are so fucking retarded now I believe this. My god what a fucking retard, and the sad thing is someone out there is even more retarded and will eventually do this.

 

[$300+ Donated][Lf] Max Cape From Scrach

 

[INNOKIN]

[$300+ Donated][Lf] Max Cape From Scrach

“300 dollars donated” which he about to get back off some poor fuck in Venezuela lmao

 

[tendyies]

Gay

 

[Sand Flea]

Just read the zombie report, man actually just got a slap on the wrist, what the actual fuck. I'm about to donate 1k and make some big money.