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  1. draggin pure

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    i believe in Christ and its a shame people dont..

    But youll be happy in hell i presume
     
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    If you admit that you will never change your belief simply upon principle, then you are fundamentalist, and thus irrational.

    When you are having a near-death experience, your entire brain is flooded with dimethyltriptamine, a highly hallucinogenic drug that has been termed the "spirit molecule".

    *edit*

    dam prayer noobs beat me to it. :(
     
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    There is no ignorance in religion.

    Yes, it is ignorant to hold onto formalities, ignorant to dissaprove in rationalized opinion, ignorant to believe that your religion is superior to others (Atheism being a religion). In the end, there is no ignorance in whether or not you believe in "God/gods/divine being".

    Simply put, we have two kinds of people. Those that "think" they have the answers, and those that don't.

    What am I? Agnostic. But, I'll tell you, I'd rather have been educated that death is a timeless orgasm. No, I don't think I'm going to hell, but I don't blame those who hold onto strong beliefs.

    Edit:
    Since I see so many flames, I have created a few questions. Some for the religious(mostly Christian), some for the atheist.

    1. If God made us all, why didn't he make us all believe in him? What makes you think, that your religious text, dating millenias after the first religious texts, are superior? I see no claims that a God/gods has ever written a holy text, the best argument of faith is that everyone who wrote it was influenced by the holy spirit. However, nothing stops me from taking Harry Potter, taking off the front page, calling it "The Holy Bible", and preaching about it in Africa.

    2. What is the purpose of our essential existence? To reproduce until we no longer can? Be honest, would you be happier to have been educated "knowing" all the answers, never having to wonder what will happen to you 60 years down the line, as you sit on your death bed?
     
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    I love how everyone says that Atheism is a religion, it's like "yeah, you guys are just as irrational as we are."
     
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    Atheists are ignorant to believe that any sort of argument will overrule faith. You are ignorant by being here :)

    Everyone is susceptible, in different ways.

    I'd like to think I'm taking the most neutral position.
     
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    Aren't you trying to do the same thing? Or are you just questioning for the sake of questioning?
     
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    First I am not atheist, I think there is no way to prove or disprove the existence of God so we shouldn't even argue about it.

    There is nothing wrong with faith, we all have faith. We have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow, that our cars will work, that things will get better eventually. There is nothing wrong with these, but when you say "you should believe in Jesus Christ because 1 billion people have faith in him," then there is something wrong. No matter how many people you get to have faith in him, it will do nothing to change the state of his existence.

    And I don't understand why I am ignorant for being here, I am engaging in intellectual discussion so by no means I am ignorant, and if you haven't noticed you are here also.
     
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    Ignore this post.
     
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    Oh no! Religion escaped from the something for all section again!
     
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    Here, you refer to yourself as you guys, thus implying that you are atheist.

    "I think there is no way to prove or disprove the existence of God so we shouldn't even argue about it."

    There ya go.

    There is also nothing wrong to be part of the one billion people that think they are right, and thus think that they should tell other people how right they are.

    I believe that anyone who targets a particular religion without considering all perspectives, is ignorant. Possibly myself, if you catch me.
     
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    atheist –noun a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

    I didn't denie anything.
     
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    I wasn't referring myself to "you guys" I was referring atheists to "you guys." Never said I was an atheist. Becareful with your assumptions.

    So basically if you think you are right with nothing to back you up then it is ok to try to tell other people and possibly convert them to your own belief? What if one billion people thought that it was right to kill black people?
     
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    Christians also thought it was once fine to kill Muslims.


    And thequestionmark, are you saying it's ok to be ignorant?

    ig·no·rance Audio Help (ĭg'nər-əns) Pronunciation Key
    n. The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.
     
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    Haha, since I like to pull controversy.

    If you aren't God, you are ignorant.

    Simple.

    As for mentioning "black people".
    Who mentioned right or wrong? You did. I never said there was anything correct or incorrect. Truth being, if everyone killed black people like they kill cows to make my hamburger, who knows if it would be justifiable?

    You can always bring a horrific situation, but they have no context to relevance.
     
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    I actually quite enjoyed the video, its pretty amazing stuff. "Reads signature"
     
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    It's hard to believe honestly. It's really hard.
     
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    No one know god is real no one know if gods fake. only one way to find out i guess.
     
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    I think that is a real story...However, too hard to predict. Gonna discuss with my freethinker friends...
     
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    I can think up fictional stories with my brain being normal, let alone flooded with psychedelic chemicals.
     
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    This is just more religious bull crap. They just want you to give your money to the church.
     
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