The "N" Word/Racial Separation

[HoneyMuff1n]

What do you think when people play "the race card" when being involved in certain, possibly tension-filled situations? It is something i see a lot going to a school full of every race known to mankind where white people are the minority, and certain words/stereotype sayings are used as reasons for certain punishments etc. that stemmed from actual bad behavior.

I dont think it is right when race is considered a factor in situations where race played no role. Two opposing sides should be looked at for each opinion they hold strong, not their ethnicity.

Ex. When Kramer used the "N" word in response to a black man who was the first to cause problems. It was definitely one way to put down a half drunk haggler, and it was justified as it was a response that was equally as demeaning and rude as what the black man had done/said infront of the public.

 

[DropKick Murphys]

Yes we get it you're a poor oppressed white male and all those ******s are taking advantage of you.

 

[The Riddler_]

Yes we get it you're a poor oppressed white male and all those ******s are taking advantage of you.

What was the reason in actually saying it?

Please discuss race and what i have said, although i believe i have rambled on too long and possibly lost my point...aha. Thoughts on the idea of "race"?

Yes you have.

Mainly, they get mad when others say it because they don't like racism in the first place. And if someone tells a white person "cracker" they usually don't care/get offended as much as other races. That is mainly why people are mad.

I brush the word off when I hear it mainly, I basically never use it, mainly in a joking matter.

Yes, I'm black.

 

[Govind]

Thoughts on the idea of "race"?

Well, I've said it before, but people have established that there are only four genetically distinct "races" in the world. Skin color has nothing to do with race - race is determined by the shape of one's skeleton (particularly the skull, have you heard of Craniology?).

So anyways, people fall under either Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid, or Australoid, or some mix of these groups.

Caucasian, contrary to popular belief, does not exclusively mean "white". The crainological characteristics of the people of Europe are shared with Persian people of the Middle East, Semites of North Africa, and India/Pakistan's indigenous populations. See, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race (first paragraph).

Mongoloid includes Chinese, Japanese, Mongolian, Korean, and other East Asian peoples, and _possibly_ native American people.

Negroids are (as you might have guessed) people from the part of Africa south of the Sahara desert.

Australoids are people from Indonesia, Papua/New Guinea, and the indigenous populations of Australia and New Zealand.

I am of Indian origin, and as such, fall under the Caucasoid group (though many Indians are partly mixed with Mongoloids from Nepal/China as well). I find that the two races that I am descended from (Cauc & Mong) are the two most diverse of the four, and the two that have accomplished the most historically. I am proud of both these ties.

@topic: Americans (black or otherwise) need to realize that it was not white people who started the whole "enslaving Africans" thing. Black slaves were sold to white slave ships by AFRICAN slave traders looking to make money.

Look at the present, though, black people in America have accomplished a lot. I think that that any educated black person should not feel reminded of the 1700s when his great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather was sold to white people by other Africans upon hearing the "N" word.

 

[The Riddler_]

I see SMR, you like geography or something of that sort and have looked into it deeply. And have retraced your roots vigorously.

But I think that different races should be named instead of categorizing under the main four. An example would be a group of Caucasoid and Mongoloid have made a community and only breed between themselves.

But as you have said earlyer, people shouldn't make such a big deal of it. It's smarter to just not say it to avoid meaningless arguments/problems.

 

[PwB Hun]

I agree, that above all the smart thing to do is to just not say anything.

But I also go to a school that is approximately 30% white, 30% jewish(no joke) 10% black, 20% asian (korean) and 10% spanish. I love that race is increasinly becoming a non-issue, and indeed so is racism. In a way, we have been desensitized to the words, but the fact that I call my asians friends gooks in front of them, and my black ones ******s, shows that things are changing towards desensitization. And yes, I get called back equally colorful whitie terms.

I think within our lifetimes(assuming you all are under 30) that race, insofar as melting pot nations like the States, will become as near a non-issue as racists and liberals will allow it to be.

 

[demonon]

@topic: Americans (black or otherwise) need to realize that it was not white people who started the whole "enslaving Africans" thing. Black slaves were sold to white slave ships by AFRICAN slave traders looking to make money.

Look at the present, though, black people in America have accomplished a lot. I think that that any educated black person should not feel reminded of the 1700s when his great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather was sold to white people by other Africans upon hearing the "N" word.

The only thing I would like to add to this that enslaving others is just exploiting others. Something mankind has done a long time and still does and this is not restricted to any race.
I agree with your second paragraph. Why should white people be accused for something their ancestors have done? Besides, although there are differences between races, I really wouldn't call any of them superior to another one. A well developed black men or women can accomplish the same as a similar human of another race can.

 

[MMO KING]

But I think

That's where you went wrong, SMR doesn't care, hes always right. Why can't we just leave race alone and we all try to make the best of the color we are and find it in our hearts to believe that I, a white man, am no diffrent then Barack Obama.

 

[The Riddler_]

That's where you went wrong, SMR doesn't care, hes always right.

Kiss ass much?

I, a white man, am no diffrent then Barack Obama.

Obama, President. You, average citizen? This isn't communism my good man.

@topic: Americans (black or otherwise) need to realize that it was not white people who started the whole "enslaving Africans" thing. Black slaves were sold to white slave ships by AFRICAN slave traders looking to make money.

In African slavery, it was mainly by prisoners of war, and with their beliefs, it let the slaves gain citizenship and rights. And they were treated much better than the slaves in America due to the belief in superiority.
- Also, later, the Spanish(which is who actually bought the slaves) just started to enslave their past business partners too to gain more income and not spend. Clearly, putting the blame back on the Africans, isn't the best thing to do.

 

[Govind]

In African slavery, it was mainly by prisoners of war, and with their beliefs, it let the slaves gain citizenship and rights. And they were treated much better than the slaves in America due to the belief in superiority.
- Also, later, the Spanish(which is who actually bought the slaves) just started to enslave their past business partners too to gain more income and not spend. Clearly, putting the blame back on the Africans, isn't the best thing to do.

The bottom line is that slavery of African-Americans would not have happened if it had not been sponsored by Africans.

 

[The Riddler_]

The bottom line is that slavery of African-Americans would not have happened if it had not been sponsored by Africans.

I don't see anything from enslaving the people they intended to trade with if they denied. Just like the people from the colonies and how they would enslave them, kill them and drive them away from their homes.

 

[Govind]

Your understanding of the colonial empires is not very profound - People from British India, for example, were never enslaved - work was voluntary and they were always paid (though very little).

 

[The Riddler_]

Your understanding of the colonial empires is not very profound - People from British India, for example, were never enslaved - work was voluntary and they were always paid (though very little).

Sorry, I forgot to say specifically who was enslaved: Indians/Native Americans.

 

[קּאָףּ]

you should be able to say it cause it means ignorant man. in history they used it as a adjective many times.. but now its 2009 not 1990s or 80s or when ever it was. people need to grow up and stop whining about stuff they havnt been through and accept it if they are that

 

[The Disturbed]

I love how everyone thinks it's okay to call me a cracker, chef, and a white-boy. It's perfectly acceptable in their eyes. If I were to call someone a spic, ******, or a towl-head, it would be racist. Sorry for the explicit language. I just had to set an example.

 

Racism still only exists because we keep bringing it up.

 

[SwiftSeller]

Agreed. BET television network, NAACP activist groups, and UNCF college funds are deemed not racist. However the first time someone is to make a WET, NAAWP, UWCF, etc. they would be bombed by anti racist parties claiming that they are leaving a group out and being unfair, when in actuality, so are the groups that are already established.

 

Agreed. BET television network, NAACP activist groups, and UNCF college funds are deemed not racist. However the first time someone is to make a WET, NAAWP, UWCF, etc. they would be bombed by anti racist parties claiming that they are leaving a group out and being unfair, when in actuality, so are the groups that are already established.

lol every other channel is a WET channel

 

[black pharaoh]

The 'n' word is irrelevant. anybody can be a '******' if u look up the dictionary term for the word. As for people calling it to one another that is THEIR perogative. As for me being a black male i could care less if it is a person i am associated with whether they are white black or asian.