The story of your enslavement

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The story of your enslavement
  1. Unread #1 - May 9, 2010 at 9:50 AM
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    Fantastic listen, particularly the points at the end detailing how it's impossible to have absolute freedom and government simultaneously.
     
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    Can the one in power have freedom?
    Like a dictator or a corrupt politician?
    Also, if someone could paste the hyperlink in a future post for the mobile users that would be great.

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    All I got out of it was that the government is giving us things in return for us also doing them favours. Not particularly sinister.
     
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    Generally yes. In most societies today, the dictator/ruler/president/whatever and his urchins have the most freedom, because they own the law and thus prance about with no regard to the laws they so rabidly enforce.
     
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    Aho, welcome to the world eh?

    Thanks for sharing sythe, open up the minds of some of these kids? While their not busy frying their neurons with Runescape and mountain dew.

    Whose dream are you going to dream today, are you going to dream the dream that the society has told you to?

    Ain't no joke, while you kids are busy playing Runescape, wrapping your minds in digital fantasy, the world is falling to pieces around you and the government has you under their thumb like a bunch of cattle. Go to School, Get a Job, Buy a life with a car and a wife, Drink pepsi, Drink Coke, Vote Red, Vote Blue, Kill your soul a little more every day, Trust in The Man's Plan, Drink the blood of your mother earth while you masturbate to child porn. Give up on life and die a little inside every day while you watch this all fall to pieces. That's what they told you to do.... that's what they want you to do, and you gave them your life. For what? What did they give you? A false sense of security & ice cream? Some Video games? Shattered Dreams and delusions?

    The world is falling apart.

    So what are you going to do about it, kids. You going to keep working to get that party hat and level 110 account. Who do you expect to save you when it's all gone, what are you going to do when this all goes away? Who will you turn to?

    All they feed you is lies, and a man can not live on lies alone. Do you think this game is going to mean anything when it all falls apart? If you were going to die today and you looked back on your life, what would your last thoughts be? What would you regret? What would you wish you had done?

    Are you content to sit around and play video games, drink soda, fantasize about buying a new car or dating a super model. That's not you, that's all the stuff they told you to do. Who are you? What do you want to do? What do you want to dream?

    They told you that you were powerless, they told you that you couldn't do anything, and that's just another lie they fed you. Could you believe that your more powerful and capable then you'd ever thought? Could you believe that if you stepped up to make a change the whole world would move with you? Could you believe that life is a choice and your standing on the edge of death - as soon as you make that beautiful affirmation of eternity your heart will overflow with love.

    You can do anything you want to do... do you want to play their game? Do you want to dream their dream? Hide behind their lies to distract you from your own ability to live life for your own destiny OR do you want to step up and make a difference, embrace life, love someone, love the world, create your future.

    A Lakota medicine man once told me, "Do not take life for granted, or Life will take you"... It's your life, and you're standing on the edge. It's time to wake up.

    Love for all beings, Many blessings as we open our hearts to life's beauty.... Love for each and every one of you, may you find the strength to live your own truth in this world. See these illusions and lies for what they are, I am praying for you, even if you do not believe in me, I believe in you. You can do anything....

    In Lak'Ech, I am another yourself.
     
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    Would be great if you weren't a mystic.

    Statism is only a particular religion. Consider for a moment that perhaps you are asleep to exactly the degree those you chastise are, except via a different drug.
     
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    Hey now, I'm playing nice so don't spoil my fun. I do not have any issue with you, I appreciate what your doing, we're looking at the same picture from two different perspectives and just because I lost my mind in a dream and found Spirit instead doesn't mean I'm any different than a rock or a tree, you and me we're both the same so let's just agree to disagree.

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    How are you sure of yourself? A lot of what you say seems more like mythos than state doctrine in itself.
     
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    I am always sure of myself, because I'm flowing... You dig?

    Everything I do is serving the harmony of the cosmos. The same is true for you, I am simply aware of this fact and act accordingly. I am absolutely confident of myself in every respect that my actions will have the necessary consequences for all sentient beings.


    So yea, I love Mythos, I don't know nothing about no state doctrine ya know, I picked up a thing or two when I lost my mind and I left all the rest behind and the state doctrine sounds like it would be hard for me to rhyme with and whatnot, you know?

    Mythos just sound a lot more beautiful... and mysterious, and epic. State doctrine on the other hand.. That sounds like an old white man writing up legislation to enslave people.
     
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    You sound like you're talking way to many drugs

    You just right poetic verse, and translate that into a statement. If you are saying the world is becoming more manufactured, and everything is carefully pruned, I can agree with that. We are being exploited. We are made to feel emotions, from advertisements, video-games and other things. However we are still in touch with the world. It is a trade off. You either want technology and advancement, or you want rural towns and disease. The current Generation is much better than all the so called utopian societies, without free speech, medicine, and all that good shit
     
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    Actually being a mystic isn't in harmony with nature. Only realism is in harmony with nature because only realism consults nature to determine exactly what the nature of things might be, rather than arbitrarily imposing some unwarranted expectation -- which is sure to end badly.

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    I feel like it's getting a little off topic here especially since in the end we share a common ideal, I'm just expressing myself in a different manner that is incongruous with your idea of reality.

    So, I never called myself a mystic, that's a label you put on me. I love you anyway, and I'm not here to debate, I'm here to speak and love.

    I will say, that I believe I am absolutely in harmony with nature. I believe, that in the grandest scheme, we are all in harmony with nature because we live in a universe of absolute perfection. Every action is part of the balance of the cosmos.

    But, from a "Realist" perspective, as you would say, I would venture to suggest that I am much more in harmony with my direct environment then you have presumed through your assumptions regarding my lifestyle and my character.

    I am visiting family at the moment, however, I spend the majority of my time living out of a backpack, sleeping in a tent or a yurt or under a tree in the woods helping different sustainable communities develop. I am involved in the development of ecologically friendly communities that utilize permaculture, alternative energy, recycled building materials, etc, etc, as a way to create a sustainable lifestyle with minimal environmental impact. I have made tremendous sacrifices to live this life style, and I am doing it for the benefit of all of you. I live out of a backpack, I do not own a cell phone, i do not buy anything unless it is absolutely nessasary, I shower once a week, I do both back breaking manual labor as well as intense mental labor such as web development, all on a donation or barter basis - I do 20-40 hours of volunteer work per week in exchange for small amounts of food and a place to pitch a tent. Do you understand?

    When I am not busy building websites for eco-friendly communities, building alternative structures, gardening, and building community and networking people together, I am investing my energy into counter-culture movements to help people realize the reality of the current situation in relation to our government, society, and environmental situation. This is part of that.

    Now, I hope I'm speaking a language that you are more familiar with sythe, I hope you can understand this. I play the mystic game because I like to entertain people and show them a structure of language that is outside the rational constructs of mind created by the ideals of european society, because our language is what manifests our reality and until we learn how to expand our language, we can not expand our perception to make the necessary changes required to create a more harmonious society. We will not have global community that is free of corruption until we can expand our language and expand our mind, our perception. So when I'm acting all goofy with my "mystic poetry" I'm just trying to get people to break out of their shell a little, lighten up a little, and love a little.

    It's true, I'm a spiritual man, I'm studying shamanism, hanging out with native Americans, meditating in ashrams, whatever - that whole thing. I'm doing this because I find it fulfilling and I believe that many of these spiritual traditions have much to teach, especially traditions that have a connection with the earth, because if we lose our connection to the earth, we lose ourselves. There is no denying that, none of us can live without water yet.

    You can choose to judge me for my personal choices i have made in my life, but please know that I am not judging you. I am not trying to push dogma on anyone, eat the fish and spit out the bones. I am sharing a perspective with the intention that I may allow others to expand their minds in a healing way so they may better their own lives and the lives of those around them.

    I have dedicated my life to planetary healing, and I love you all. I am writing this out of love for all of you. I do not care what you believe, I don't want you to believe what I believe, I want you to find your own truth - and if I'm lucky maybe some of these words will inspire something deep within you, in whatever form that may take.

    Many Blessings to you all.

    In Lak'Ech, I am another yourself.
     
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    What I made out of the first portion of your reply was that you espouse the green movement, civil service, multiculturalism, etc.

    I could say those are faucets of the modern state.


    Your lifestyle sounds like something out of a nation builder's utopia, actually.

    It's fascinating. You're overly altruistic, and what for?

    You project an unjustified, unconditional love for everyone. Your spirituality has made you so, allaying the need for you to be indoctrinated to believe so.


    Also, have you ever come to think that love is just a man-made concept, and that what we feel is insignificant in the face of an indifferent world?
     
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    No, but I could understand how a man could believe such a thing in the face of this world, as grand as it is.

    I have found peace in spirituality. I am content in my life. I suffer, but I am aware of my suffering, and I am aware that I am creating my own suffering. To transcend this is the path of healing, the path of the soul.

    You say I am overly altrutistic, perhaps this is true. I am not satisfied to live for myself alone so I spend my energy helping the world as much as possible. I find solace in this.

    I feel that love is at the root of all things if we allow ourselves to experience it. I have experienced the power of love, and it overwhelms any other experience. It is all I can do to continue to align myself with this love.
     
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    To tolerate your self-imposed suffering is to be happy?

    People are in need of assistance, and you are in need of friendship and a sense of appreciation.

    So then perhaps it is within your own interest to help others.

    Can this belief be rationalized? It sounds almost like something someone with the Stockholm Syndrome would say.
     
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    Brother, you got me all wrong.

    It is in my best interest to help people, that's why I do it. I got a tribal mind, work for the benefit of the whole, because in the end we are all connected. It is greed and selfishness that cause this destruction. Our planet has enough for everyones need, but not enough for everyones greed.

    You are trying to understand the heart with your mind. It can not be done. The mind can, at best, understand itself. Rationalism will teach you nothing about love. Listen to your heart if you wish to learn something.
     
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    The point is that the focus is on your productivity for the state, rather than your freedom and happiness. That's the sinister part.
     
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    No the sinister part is that you are chattel owned by the state.
     
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    I tried. I don't know what you're getting at there.

    I don't see much meaning behind all this symbolism.

    Emotions can be deceiving, so reason should be the prime determining force behind our own values, that in turn affect the rest of society.
     
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