Taking down Shredderbeam.

[Ser]

Sorry Shredderbeam but I'm almost ready to challenge you on your atheism.

I love attacking atheist like atheist attacking religion.

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Soon I'll post in the intelligent forum, stay tuned.

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Here is the point:

It is not nature and Scripture that contradict; rather, it is science (man's fallible interpretation of nature) and theology (man's fallible interpretation of Scripture) that sometimes fall into conflict. Hence the secularist cannot simply dismiss certain parts of the Bible because "science and the Bible contradict."

Let's look at this from another angle. Some have claimed that Nostradamus is one of the greatest prophets of all time, but, ignore the Bible and its prophecies. Did you know Scripture contains dozens of specific predictions that came true with 100% accuracy (compared to Nostradamus' vague "prophecies" which could be applied to anything). For example, could you find all 48 major prophecies concerning the Messiah fulfilled in any one man? Science says "no". The chance of that occurring by coincidence is 10 followed by 157 zeros! I'd say those are pretty high odds! But, Jesus is that one man.

Try as you might, there is nothing that even comes close to Scripture (2 Peter 1:20-21).

Over the years there have been many criticisms leveled against the Bible concerning its historical reliability. These criticisms are usually based on a lack of evidence from outside sources to confirm the Biblical record. Since the Bible is a religious book, many scholars take the position that it is biased and cannot be trusted unless we have corroborating evidence from extra-Biblical sources. In other words, the Bible is guilty until proven innocent, and a lack of outside evidence places the Biblical account in doubt.

This standard is far different from that applied to other ancient documents, even though many, if not most, have a religious element. They are considered to be accurate, unless there is evidence to show that they are not. Although it is not possible to verify every incident in the Bible, the discoveries of archaeology since the mid-1800s have demonstrated the reliability and plausibility of the Bible narrative

# The discovery of the Ebla archive in northern Syria in the 1970s has shown the Biblical writings concerning the Patriarchs to be viable. Documents written on clay tablets from around 2300 B.C. demonstrate that personal and place names in the Patriarchal accounts are genuine. The name “Canaan” was in use in Ebla, a name critics once said was not used at that time and was used incorrectly in the early chapters of the Bible. The word tehom (“the deep”) in Genesis 1:2 was said to be a late word demonstrating the late writing of the creation story. “Tehom” was part of the vocabulary at Ebla, in use some 800 years before Moses. Ancient customs reflected in the stories of the Patriarchs have also been found in clay tablets from Nuzi and Mari.

# The Hittites were once thought to be a Biblical legend, until their capital and records were discovered at Bogazkoy, Turkey.

# Many thought the Biblical references to Solomon's wealth were greatly exaggerated. Recovered records from the past show that wealth in antiquity was concentrated with the king and Solomon's prosperity was entirely feasible.

# It was once claimed there was no Assyrian king named Sargon as recorded in Isaiah 20:1, because this name was not known in any other record. Then, Sargon's palace was discovered in Khorsabad, Iraq. The very event mentioned in Isaiah 20, his capture of Ashdod, was recorded on the palace walls. What is more, fragments of a stela memorializing the victory were found at Ashdod itself.

# Another king who was in doubt was Belshazzar, king of Babylon, named in Daniel 5. The last king of Babylon was Nabonidus according to recorded history. Tablets were found showing that Belshazzar was Nabonidus' son who served as coregent in Babylon. Thus, Belshazzar could offer to make Daniel “third highest ruler in the kingdom” (Dan. 5:16) for reading the handwriting on the wall, the highest available position. Here we see the “eye-witness” nature of the Biblical record, as is so often brought out by the discoveries of archaeology.

Proof of events that had taken place in the bible - These events are proven by science and archeology

The palace at Jericho where Eglon, king of Moab, was assassinated by Ehud (Judges 3:15-30).

The east gate of Shechem where Gaal and Zebul watched the forces of Abimelech approach the city (Judges 9:34-38).

The Temple of Baal/El-Berith in Shechem, where funds were obtained to finance Abimelech's kingship, and where the citizens of Shechem took refuge when Abimelech attacked the city (Judges 9:4, 46-49).
Pool at Gibeon. Photo copyrighted.

The pool of Gibeon where the forces of David and Ishbosheth fought during the struggle for the kingship of Israel (2 Samuel 2:12-32).
The Pool of Heshbon, likened to the eyes of the Shulammite woman (Song of Songs 7:4).

The royal palace at Samaria where the kings of Israel lived (1 Kings 20:43; 21:1, 2; 22:39; 2 Kings 1:2; 15:25).

The Pool of Samaria where King Ahab's chariot was washed after his death (1 Kings 22:29-38).

The water tunnel beneath Jerusalem dug by King Hezekiah to provide water during the Assyrian siege (2 Kings 20:20; 2 Chronicles 32:30).

The royal palace in Babylon where King Belshazzar held the feast and Daniel interpreted the handwriting on the wall (Daniel 5).

The royal palace in Susa where Esther was queen of the Persian king Xerxes (Esther 1:2; 2:3, 5, 9, 16).

The royal gate at Susa where Mordecai, Esther's cousin, sat (Esther 2:19, 21; 3:2, 3; 4:2; 5:9, 13; 6:10, 12).

The Square in front of the royal gate at Susa where Mordecai met with Halthach, Xerxes' eunuch (Esther 4:6).

The foundation of the synagogue at Capernaum where Jesus cured a man with an unclean spirit (Mark 1:21-28) and delivered the sermon on the bread of life (John 6:25-59).

The house of Peter at Capernaum where Jesus healed Peter's mother-in-law and others (Matthew 8:14-16).

Jacob's well where Jesus spoke to the Samaritan woman (John 4).

The Pool of Bethesda in Jerusalem, where Jesus healed a crippled man (John 5:1-14).

The Pool of Siloam in Jerusalem, where Jesus healed a blind man (John 9:1-4).

The tribunal at Corinth where Paul was tried

Theater at Ephesus, Turkey. Photo copyrighted.
The theater at Ephesus, Turkey.
The theater at Ephes

Herod's palace at Caesarea where Paul was kept under guard (Acts 23:33-35).

 

[0120012345]

........what?

 

[Billyy]

spam.

 

[K-3-V-1-N]

butsecks.

 

[1Ak]

I didnt read through them all but in the bible it says it was day all night or something... like it stayed the same time so they could see to fight in a war, and it was proven that the day stood still for one day in history.

 

[the_wippit]

thats some good shit if you need some help to combat the epic ideological zealot then just give me a holler

 

[aronj]

Ever heard of historical fiction?

 

[Fouisgras]

Sorry but shredder is smarter than you ever will be, and uses the best trick in the book to weaken the poison of religion. The kryptonite to all religious humans.... logic.

 

[ARMIN88]

ummm.. what?

 

[5w33t p00p3r]

Religion blows my 12 pound cock.

 

[K-3-V-1-N]

guys i don't belive you heard me....
"butSECKS"............

take it to SFA if it's not a topic relating to butsecks.

btw, PRAISE JAH00000VVA!

 

[Ser]

I will beat him with logic. Fight logic with logic, he wants proof and I got it. Simple.

Hes not smarter than anyone. The human brain has no limits.

 

[shakaka]

I will beat him with logic. Fight logic with logic, he wants proof and I got it. Simple.

Hes not smarter than anyone. The human brain has no limits.

I fucking agree!

I too think that the only LOGICAL answer is raging, unprotected, violent, bloody buttsecks.

 

[K-3-V-1-N]

^ omg, ty. Finnnlly som1 who dsnt spam.

 

[K-3-V-1-N]

BUTSECKS PPLE...

 

[5w33t p00p3r]

I fucking agree!

I too think that the only LOGICAL answer is raging, unprotected, violent, bloody buttsecks.

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