Steam Related-Sales Moderator Activity Lacking

[S]

I agree. It seems to be rarely moderated. I'm a novice at anything Steam related as it seems most of the Staff are aswell. Would be good to get someone up in there who's familiar and experienced with the Steam market.

 

[Punjabi3]

The main problem with the term "proof" when it comes to steam accounts/gifts is what is considered sufficient proof. Just because the user can provide the email and VAC settings doesn't mean that he/she is the original owner or is an authorized reseller.

Steps of a Steam Hacker/Cracker/Bruteforcer:
1. Use a Bruteforcer to access an unverified steam account
2. Screenshot the VAC/Email Verified tab
3. Try to sell the Steam account on Sythe before the Original Owner Notices that his account has been hijacked.
4. Original Owner notices his/her steam account has been stolen and provides proof of purchase to Steam Support
5. Steam Support returns the account to the original owner
6. Sythe Steam hacker has scammed victim out of his/her account.

I feel the only way a Steam Account can be safely and securely (as best as possible) is by transferring steam account with:

1: Original Keys Activated on the Steam account

2: Steam Email "Thank Your For Your Purchase

3. Paypal Confirmation for Steam Purchase

This ^ is true proof of purchase to any steam account or gift and if a buyer receives these purchase confirmation emails, the account is less likely to be hacked.



They can also be lying to you and saying they buy the mass lists from other people. There is almost no way of confirming their story as when you ask for proof, all they have is a text file with username and passwords.

Most actually linked me to a seller and it was confirmed through the vouches they showed me, all of it happens off site and I'm sure their sellers get it illegally but that is hard to prove when you have no ability to check anything off site.

 

[exapto]

I agree, I've seen far too little moderation of the Steam SF and think that a proper staff is required.

The main problem with the term "proof" when it comes to steam accounts/gifts is what is considered sufficient proof. Just because the user can provide the email and VAC settings doesn't mean that he/she is the original owner or is an authorized reseller.

Steps of a Steam Hacker/Cracker/Bruteforcer:
1. Use a Bruteforcer to access an unverified steam account
2. Screenshot the VAC/Email Verified tab
3. Try to sell the Steam account on Sythe before the Original Owner Notices that his account has been hijacked.
4. Original Owner notices his/her steam account has been stolen and provides proof of purchase to Steam Support
5. Steam Support returns the account to the original owner
6. Sythe Steam hacker has scammed victim out of his/her account.

I feel the only way a Steam Account can be safely and securely (as best as possible) is by transferring steam account with:

1: Original Keys Activated on the Steam account

2: Steam Email "Thank Your For Your Purchase

3. Paypal Confirmation for Steam Purchase

This ^ is true proof of purchase to any steam account or gift and if a buyer receives these purchase confirmation emails, the account is less likely to be hacked.



They can also be lying to you and saying they buy the mass lists from other people. There is almost no way of confirming their story as when you ask for proof, all they have is a text file with username and passwords.

And this does seem to be the only secure way to handle Steam trades (by that I mean the least risk, as you mentioned the seller can always lie). I mean, the same thing goes for all trades on here: you've gotta be careful. Everything is a risk

As far as Steam SF moderators, I suggest we have one of the admins write up an application for us to fill out. We will need at least 2 moderators (I can't imagine all of the moderation work being lumped onto just one person). But as far as Steam sale moderation goes, I'm game for the position!

 

[djweasel]

I remember when I was staff a few of us took an attempt at moderating Steam sales but it was very difficult considering most had little to no knowledge of it. It would be cool to finally see a market mod promotion who actually knows quite a bit about steam instead of everyone else attempting to learn about/ moderate the section.

I remember trying to ban a few people for hacked accounts but tbh there's never enough proof because most of them don't do it themselves but instead buy the accounts off other people.

I agree with this but if people who are trusted were to tell me that they can verify for me I accept that also.

 

[MitchelltheGreat]

As far as Steam SF moderators, I suggest we have one of the admins write up an application for us to fill out. We will need at least 2 moderators (I can't imagine all of the moderation work being lumped onto just one person). But as far as Steam sale moderation goes, I'm game for the position!

As far as I know, members can't request to be a mod and there is no application to become a moderator. I think the moderators have their own private thread where they decide who qualifies to become one.

 

[exapto]

As far as I know, members can't request to be a mod and there is no application to become a moderator. I think the moderators have their own private thread where they decide who qualifies to become one.

That's true. I guess what I meant to say was to post in those staff suggestion threads. I've seen posts like "xxx for staff!" "yyyy for global!" and etc...

We'll see what the staff thinks!

 

[djweasel]

As far as I know, members can't request to be a mod and there is no application to become a moderator. I think the moderators have their own private thread where they decide who qualifies to become one.

There will be no application to get mod. That is up to staff to add mods.

That's true. I guess what I meant to say was to post in those staff suggestion threads. I've seen posts like "xxx for staff!" "yyyy for global!" and etc...

We'll see what the staff thinks!

Or ignore what I'm saying. I continue to tell you guys that IF SOMEONE TRUSTED CAN VERIFY THEM PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO I CAN HELP WITH THIS.

If someone wants to help please add me on skype - djweaselsythe and we can talk right now.

 

There will be no application to get mod. That is up to staff to add mods.



Or ignore what I'm saying. I continue to tell you guys that IF SOMEONE TRUSTED CAN VERIFY THEM PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO I CAN HELP WITH THIS.

If someone wants to help please add me on skype - djweaselsythe and we can talk right now.

I would like to help if you deem me trusted enough for this.
I report posts everyday in Steam section, and it is me who has reported those 4 digits were Dave just says you will verify them. MitchelltheGreat has just taken action from what is going wrong here..
Let me know if I can help.

http://www.sythe.org/report-spammer-archive/1521488-reported-post-sh4rky77.html
http://www.sythe.org/report-spammer-archive/1519919-reported-post-sh4rky77.html
http://www.sythe.org/report-spammer-archive/1513003-reported-post-sh4rky77.html

 

[MitchelltheGreat]

I would like to help if you deem me trusted enough for this.
I report posts everyday in Steam section, and it is me who has reported those 4 digits were Dave just says you will verify them. MitchelltheGreat has just taken action from what is going wrong here..
Let me know if I can help.

http://www.sythe.org/report-spammer-archive/1521488-reported-post-sh4rky77.html
http://www.sythe.org/report-spammer-archive/1519919-reported-post-sh4rky77.html
http://www.sythe.org/report-spammer-archive/1513003-reported-post-sh4rky77.html

Talked to this user on Skype.

Please leave this thread only to discussion about how the Steam Related Sales can be improved. If you guys want to talk about verifying steam accounts/any other steam related activites, add djweasel's Skype.

Currently, I believe DJ has posted some suggestions up in SL which are waiting to be discussed. We will wait until N4N0 or Firez or any other Mod/Admin gives feedback before any action takes place.

 

[FireZ]

The section is lacking moderation, before sengira I was heavily involved in modding that section...but of course it has been a few years...and I have never logged into steam once in my life and never plan to.

 

[Rahman]

Instead of assigning a random person to moderate that section, why not just give permissions to an existing sectional to help out in the section?

I mean, dealing with steam related issues is simple, the thread is being posted to help the section, so members of the community will most likely be more than eager to help the sectional do his/her job properly and teach/tell what they need to do and how to do it..

 

[djweasel]

Talked to this user on Skype.

Please leave this thread only to discussion about how the Steam Related Sales can be improved. If you guys want to talk about verifying steam accounts/any other steam related activites, add djweasel's Skype.

Currently, I believe DJ has posted some suggestions up in SL which are waiting to be discussed. We will wait until N4N0 or Firez or any other Mod/Admin gives feedback before any action takes place.

I will take care of this tonight when I am done with work and figure this out.
I'll get something lined up with you about helping verify the accounts.

 

[MitchelltheGreat]

This thread can be closed now. Thanks for everyone who read this.

 

[djweasel]

Closed and handled.