Starting up again. Would this pure work f2p?

[fireup6]

Haven't played in 3-4 years, just starting again. Thinking of going for a classic rune scimmy/2h combo.

Att:40
Str:99
Def:1
Pray:??
Range:1
Magic:1

Would this work? Or has a lot changed since?

 

[Ireland]

Yes. Most people stop and get bored before they reach this, but it'd be amazing. Not sure what prayer level you should go for, but piety would be useful.

 

[fireup6]

Also, I'm not sure what to train on. People say seagulls, but that seems very slow XP. I've been training on goblins/men.

 

[Ireland]

Training in f2p? eh it's abit slow. Would have never thought seagulls, haha.

Low levels you should train on men, then work your way up to flesh-crawlers and eventually cockroach soldiers/whatever you find best.

 

[fireup6]

Training in f2p? eh it's abit slow. Would have never thought seagulls, haha.

Low levels you should train on men, then work your way up to flesh-crawlers and eventually cockroach soldiers/whatever you find best.

Is there any use in getting 80-90 range? Considering I'll have 99 str and a rune scimmy, I can't imagine range or magic helping me in any way. Yet i still see people raising them.

How come?

 

[.Steam.]

Hybriding is all the rage now.

 

[skill guru]

For the prayer level you should go for 43 to have all the protect from, this will give you a big advantage as a 1 def pure, if you P2p and have to cash to get you 95 prayer do it! you can get turmoil prayer and that really owns in pvp.

 

[dualimpact]

When I had a 70 range 85 str 40 att pure I would crush the 90+str rune scimmy pkers.

 

[The Chase]

range/2h owns 40 attack rune scim. you can't hit through def that well with 40 attack.

 

[fireup6]

range/2h owns 40 attack rune scim. you can't hit through def that well with 40 attack.

That makes sense since the chance to hit with ranged depends purely on range level. Unlike meele which depends on 3 different skills.

Didn't think of that before. Makes sense.

So i guess planned stats would be:

Att: 40
Str: 99
Def: 1
Range: 93 (highest i can raise without gaining combat lv)
Magic: 1 (need teleblock?)
Prayer: 43
Hitpoints: Assuming ~85

 

[KerokeroCola]

That makes sense since the chance to hit with ranged depends purely on range level. Unlike meele which depends on 3 different skills.

Didn't think of that before. Makes sense.

So i guess planned stats would be:

Att: 40
Str: 99
Def: 1
Range: 93 (highest i can raise without gaining combat lv)
Magic: 1 (need teleblock?)
Prayer: 43
Hitpoints: Assuming ~85

This pure will only work in F2P, since other pures at that level would probably decimate with claws, DDS, etc. So don't worry about magic. With low magic (might wanna get it to 43 or something for all the F2P teleports), you can get 99 Range with 99 Str. HP at that point will be about 92-94, which is unnecessarily high. You may wanna SW/chin/cannon the ranged and even SW some of the str.

 

[fireup6]

This pure will only work in F2P, since other pures at that level would probably decimate with claws, DDS, etc. So don't worry about magic. With low magic (might wanna get it to 43 or something for all the F2P teleports), you can get 99 Range with 99 Str. HP at that point will be about 92-94, which is unnecessarily high. You may wanna SW/chin/cannon the ranged and even SW some of the str.

Should i attempt to keep my HP as low as possible? I could probably buy members for a month and do pest control to raise strength and range, while keeping my HP minimal.

 

[Ireland]

I wouldn't keep it too low. If you can get members to train, all the better.

 

[Travis]

I would go with 1 prayer but thats just me. goodluck training.

 

[Absolution]

This pure will only work in F2P, since other pures at that level would probably decimate with claws, DDS, etc. So don't worry about magic. With low magic (might wanna get it to 43 or something for all the F2P teleports), you can get 99 Range with 99 Str. HP at that point will be about 92-94, which is unnecessarily high. You may wanna SW/chin/cannon the ranged and even SW some of the str.

Actually it would work very well in p2p as well if you're willing to spend a lil cash. Just range itself decimates anything at that level. Phx necks make claws useless as well.
Msb->Cvls->Jav Spec

Also hp is a lifesaver in f2p since your 'safing' will be judged by your hp bar relative to your opponent. The rule is you have to maintain a fairly close hp bar to his. If you have 90+hp then you can trick him into pulling 2h at an hp where he can't even KO you whereas you can KO him.

As for prayer, speaking as someone who pked in f2p with 40 99 1 and 1 prayer, it's highly overrated.
13 or 31 pray is ALOT better as it raises your max scim/r2h hit by a very large amount. 13 pray is the best combination of combat level/damage BUT it is a PAIN to recharge in bh worlds (you have to die) and generally runs out before a fight ends so you have to 'flick' it at least for half of the fight.

Range-2h itself is also not as great as most people making it out to be. With the new animations (not really new but compared to a few years ago its new) its VERY VERY easy to see when the 2h pulls and you can quickly click a swordfish.
Most people (nh pkers/noobs/75% of pkers) also will safe to what they call a 'stack level' which literally makes it unlikely for you to KO.

Ex. If you're using scim-2h and your max hit with scim is 250, they'll eat at around 270 lp.
If you're using range-2h and your max hit with range is 150, and 2h 290 they'll eat at a whopping 350lp+.
Or they will time your 2h pull and eat at any level above 200lp. So say they have 350lp and you just hit 150 with range, as soon as u click your 2h they click a swordfish and now instead of having 200lp they have 320lp making it impossible for you to ko.

Of course range-2h still remains very succesful based on the speed factor that they can do a quick-pull + eat vs. the scim-2h+eat which is not as quick. BUT this only works if your opponent ACTUALLY RISKS his HP which is rare to find nowadays.

What I'm talking about is the fact that you can eat a piece of food DURING your attack animation. With a successful quickpull+ eat you can stack a range hit, an r2h hit and a swordfish in 3 game ticks (1.8seconds).
With a successful scim hit, an r2h hit and a swordfish can be done is 4 gametics (2.4seconds) and in identical start times the ranger will both eat and hit his 2h BEFORE your 2h and before you even eat.

 

[Burdock`]

1 pray for F2P. Seriously. Not worth the extra levels at all and is a pain to recharge. But people like different things, try PKing with 1, if you find it's bad get 13 or 31.

Also, I'd recommend pest controlling xp. Gives a pretty beastly Str/HP ratio. I'm 80 str, 65 hp at 55 combat. Other pures my level have 75 str, tops.

 

[Cadillac CTS]

1 prayer for free to play, its not worth having prayer on f2p for multiple reasons. Best of luck mate!

 

[fireup6]

I would go with 1 prayer but thats just me. goodluck training.

1 pray for F2P. Seriously. Not worth the extra levels at all and is a pain to recharge. But people like different things, try PKing with 1, if you find it's bad get 13 or 31.

Also, I'd recommend pest controlling xp. Gives a pretty beastly Str/HP ratio. I'm 80 str, 65 hp at 55 combat. Other pures my level have 75 str, tops.

1 prayer for free to play, its not worth having prayer on f2p for multiple reasons. Best of luck mate!

Yeah getting prayer will add at least 3-4 levels and I never found it very effective. If i do get prayer I'll defiantly get it last.

I was thinking about the HP issue. Training to 99 str will give me ~87hp, this is assuming that i get all my range xp using non-combat methods. I'm thinking maybe 87hp is too high for f2p and maybe i should try to keep it at ~70? If anyone has any experience with this I'd be very grateful.

 

[fireup6]

Actually it would work very well in p2p as well if you're willing to spend a lil cash. Just range itself decimates anything at that level. Phx necks make claws useless as well.
Msb->Cvls->Jav Spec

Also hp is a lifesaver in f2p since your 'safing' will be judged by your hp bar relative to your opponent. The rule is you have to maintain a fairly close hp bar to his. If you have 90+hp then you can trick him into pulling 2h at an hp where he can't even KO you whereas you can KO him.

As for prayer, speaking as someone who pked in f2p with 40 99 1 and 1 prayer, it's highly overrated.
13 or 31 pray is ALOT better as it raises your max scim/r2h hit by a very large amount. 13 pray is the best combination of combat level/damage BUT it is a PAIN to recharge in bh worlds (you have to die) and generally runs out before a fight ends so you have to 'flick' it at least for half of the fight.

Range-2h itself is also not as great as most people making it out to be. With the new animations (not really new but compared to a few years ago its new) its VERY VERY easy to see when the 2h pulls and you can quickly click a swordfish.
Most people (nh pkers/noobs/75% of pkers) also will safe to what they call a 'stack level' which literally makes it unlikely for you to KO.

Ex. If you're using scim-2h and your max hit with scim is 250, they'll eat at around 270 lp.
If you're using range-2h and your max hit with range is 150, and 2h 290 they'll eat at a whopping 350lp+.
Or they will time your 2h pull and eat at any level above 200lp. So say they have 350lp and you just hit 150 with range, as soon as u click your 2h they click a swordfish and now instead of having 200lp they have 320lp making it impossible for you to ko.

Of course range-2h still remains very succesful based on the speed factor that they can do a quick-pull + eat vs. the scim-2h+eat which is not as quick. BUT this only works if your opponent ACTUALLY RISKS his HP which is rare to find nowadays.

What I'm talking about is the fact that you can eat a piece of food DURING your attack animation. With a successful quickpull+ eat you can stack a range hit, an r2h hit and a swordfish in 3 game ticks (1.8seconds).
With a successful scim hit, an r2h hit and a swordfish can be done is 4 gametics (2.4seconds) and in identical start times the ranger will both eat and hit his 2h BEFORE your 2h and before you even eat.

Very informative, thanks. Didn't know any of that.

Is there a better f2p alternative to range-2h? If people safe a lot and don't risk their HP it sounds like something I'll just have to deal with.

 

[TimeToClutch]

Yes. Most people stop and get bored before they reach this, but it'd be amazing. Not sure what prayer level you should go for, but piety would be useful.

you cant use piety in f2p lol.

And yeah those stats work well.just stick to 1 prayer.