Staking! - is there any PRO Stakers out there?

[youcantseeme]

Hello all this is just a thread of interest for me, i can never seem to go to the duelling arena and walk away a winner why is that?

I'm a maxed account and always do whip staking, and 7/10 times i get first hit in each stake what am i doing wrong?

If you have any advice or tips please help. Please also share your past at the duelling arena and if your a pro staker let me know how to make mills.

 

[Chris]

Maxed main staking is 50/50 you have an equal chance of walking away with profit and walking away down. Unless you misclick or get scammed.

 

[youcantseeme]

Maxed main staking is 50/50 you have an equal chance of walking away with profit and walking away down. Unless you misclick or get scammed.

yeah but how are such people making mills from maxed main staking? other than scamming i mean is there a certain whip style i should attack with or is just pot luck?

 

[pvm adam]

its all about luck, mostly ppl with bills are just lucky bastards who had a nice win streak, they will be cleaned soon tho

 

yeah but how are such people making mills from maxed main staking? other than scamming i mean is there a certain whip style i should attack with or is just pot luck?

Pure luck.

 

[SmokeHut]

Bankroll is the bottom line, theoretically you cannot loose at the duelling arena with a bank roll big enough.

However, mathematics stipulates that a 50/50 chance will leave you exactly where you started. Though this isn't the case with randomised betting, the win/loss ratio is.

You need to play for your most unlikely scenario, be it 20 consecutive losses. for every 1,000 duels. But doing that, means you need a massive bank roll. And there is always the chance you'll be unlucky enough to go past 20 consecutive losses. Covering for any more means it's not worthwhile.

That's the only real way to walk-a-way a winner. Any other profits is just so that you're fortunate to be on the good end of the scale over x amount of duels.

 

[Jayzz]

pure luck and self-control.

 

[Dream bot]

Yeah maxed staking is 50/50. First hit is determined randomly.

 

[Not Stable]

Like every single person in this thread said, maxed main staking is 50/50 everything is based on luck, everything comes to RNG

 

There is no set way to always make money since your opponent can walk away at any time resetting your stat against them. When you start fighting a new opponent the 20 loss streak on your old opponent can continue to a 40 loss streak.

 

[Burnley]

people walk away big winners because they usually have big bank rolls to start of with.

say they stake 10m and lose they will then stake 20m and keep doubling the stake until eventually they win.

You can try it with 100k if your poor but should have enough double's for 6/7 stakes and don't get to greedy

 

[shade082]

Definitely pure luck. Basically no skills involved other than clicking. people who have made mad money from staking is lucky asf.

 

[SmokeHut]

There is no set way to always make money since your opponent can walk away at any time resetting your stat against them. When you start fighting a new opponent the 20 loss streak on your old opponent can continue to a 40 loss streak.

If the people you're fighting is 50/50, you could fight 1,000 people individually and end up with 500 wins 500 losses. It doesn't work on a player statistical basis. I'm not saying it'll be absolutely 500/500 however, it'll be near enough.

 

[youcantseeme]

ok i thank everyone for there input so what happens when im staking guys that are like 95 95 95 , i do 5m they do 4m , how the fuck do they win 3/3 and i literally dont even hit.

 

[kushl9ve]

ok i thank everyone for there input so what happens when im staking guys that are like 95 95 95 , i do 5m they do 4m , how the fuck do they win 3/3 and i literally dont even hit.

It's just the fact that your opponents are significant higher in every (!) stat, meaning 99 attack hits much more often on 95def than on 99def. If their attack was 95 attack aswell, it'd be even.

I would just grind it out to max via NMZ afking.

 

It's just the fact that your opponents are significant higher in every (!) stat, meaning 99 attack hits much more often on 95def than on 99def. If their attack was 95 attack aswell, it'd be even.

I would just grind it out to max via NMZ afking.

He's asking about opponents that aren't maxed. This is because a. they have 99 hp which matters the most and b. 95/99 isn't nearly as big of a difference to account for the 1.2x or whatever you got

 

[SmokeHut]

ok i thank everyone for there input so what happens when im staking guys that are like 95 95 95 , i do 5m they do 4m , how the fuck do they win 3/3 and i literally dont even hit.

If you think of the mathematics behind it, you're at a significant disadvantage in the long run. For them, rather than it being 50/50, say 49/51 their return is greater than the ratio disadvantage. So over the long run, they will make money.

 

[Candle]

100% luck. The only real winners are those odd hunters that make you X them for ~49% odds

 

[Wub to craft]

If you have a 1B bank, do the double up method.
Start with staking 1m, if you lose, bump up to 2m, if you lose 4m, 8m, 16m, 32m, 64m, 108m 216m, 432m, 864m... surely you won't lose 10 times in a row?

 

[SmokeHut]

If you have a 1B bank, do the double up method.
Start with staking 1m, if you lose, bump up to 2m, if you lose 4m, 8m, 16m, 32m, 64m, 108m 216m, 432m, 864m... surely you won't lose 10 times in a row?

I created an application to test this theory. However, I was doing it for roulette. And the numbers I found were shocking.

The requested software was to count consecutive reds/blacks in a row, and if a green came along, then it would restart the consecutive counters.

Over roughly 1,000 spins you'd see around 6-10 consecutive, over 10,000 you'd likely see a 20, over 100,000 you'd be in the high 20's and 1,000,000 would easily throw 30+. Now, that's is based on absolute randomness. So a 10 loss streak is pretty likely in the long run.