[STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

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  1. Unread #1 - Apr 15, 2018 at 12:01 AM
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    To begin we start here:
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    This isn't attack on chicks, or anyone, if I could do same thing I would, this is about unfair market advantage

    Veng started by abuse the following rule:
    (As he was the only person caught at this time)

    After this @veng and at least he did it, stop abusing the rule and closed his thread,
    After this I made this suggestion:
    Reform this loophole.

    Which was denied because of reason Tmoe stated If a staff caught they will be stopped, o we will 100% come back to did later.

    After realizing how heavily staff were abusing this rule began to start baiting them,

    Let see what Chloe says in my suggestion:
    [​IMG]

    So you sell your own gold on side? yet I baited you on alt:
    [​IMG]

    If you don't believe by the second screenshot that I caught Chloe , I will leak more

    Cover up most of that conversation since I don't want to leak something in it but yes she was selling gold for someone else, funny isn't? how is the one staff member abusing the rules?

    Ooo but only 1 staff member abusing this rule for there own benefit? my ass.
    ⭐⭐⭐⭐ [MOD] ⭐ Selling 07 Gold ⭐⭐ > .71-.76 < ⭐⭐[BTC/ETH/CB/LBC] ⭐ BETTER RATES THAN GOLD SITES! ⭐⭐⭐⭐
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    O vlad you thought you were smart trying to delete the message's so you wouldn't be caught?

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    Ok, ok, abm you reported them was dealt with, Yes Charlotte tried her best to deal with it and wanted the staff,

    but a moment after I made that report on Vlad and I mean few days after the fact that reported her once,
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    OO CHLOE BUMPING HERE THREAD, THIS IS NOT GOOD IS IT!
    Today,
    [​IMG]

    Now you may ask but ABM there just putting a link, how does it connect to them?
    https://www.playerauctions.com/rs20...an-traderstake-transfers-available-upon-requ/

    This is the link, aka it's chicks player auction link,
    So they are using their own thread,
    but selling for someone else...

    I mean is this a not joke? a global caught and still does it? 2 sectionals caught?
    I mean seriously this isn't even funny.

    @Tmoe Funny isn't it? that you said when there caught they stop?
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Apr 15, 2018 at 12:08 AM
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    Yea, this is like a goldsite having its own 3 threads, i really don't understand why it's allowed.

    edit: and if this is allowed, why do you need to ask staff for approval because shouldn't it be allowed for everyone? Can sites like Ariba who have 10+ workers go and make 10+ threads?
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Apr 15, 2018 at 12:10 AM
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    The issue is actual rules in my opinion,
    anyway I don't wanted any mod or admin closing this until I get reply from @Sythe Himself
     
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  7. Unread #4 - Apr 15, 2018 at 12:15 AM
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    This will just cause conflict of interest if it were allowed as a whole, never mind having a monopoly on the site.

    Staff being approved by a higher rank of staff seems fair, but I'm not sure on what the criteria is, they'll just get auto-approved because they're all staff won't they?

    Either apply the rule to all users (including staff) or scrap it entirely, though this would cause more problems in the long run.
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Apr 15, 2018 at 12:17 AM
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    anyone know when Sythescape is coming out? i've been dying to play.

    OT so this post doesn't get removed: can i get a tl;dr on this ?
     
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  11. Unread #6 - Apr 15, 2018 at 12:30 AM
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    Yea id have to agree with @A Broken Man the abuse is real and the slickness of the whole ordeal is not cute in anyway.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Apr 15, 2018 at 12:39 AM
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    I already spoke to Charlotte, there is no rule against using someone elses PA to sell your own gold.

    The gold is mine; the funds are mine; the Playerauctions account is Chicks. Any gold I sell through that playerauctions belongs to me & the funds that are made are mine. Show me a rule where I cannot use someone elses Playerauctions account?
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.


    That's funny when you were caught the first time you said:

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    So yeah we both know it's not your gold

    O let's not forget the fact that your co-owner not working right now,

    [​IMG]
    But you are (this was 30 mins ago)

    so you bumped your thread for someone else,
    let's stop stupid games already,

    If any more staff wanted to pipe up go a head.​
     
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  17. Unread #9 - Apr 15, 2018 at 12:52 AM
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    Do you see the word there? MY gold.
    I sell MY gold to Veng/Vlad/Chicks for the same price I bought it so I don't get banned. Again; find me a rule against this? There are people on Sythe who sell for lower than what they bought so saying I can't sell for the same price is ridiculous.

    At the end of the day, myself personally, I'm not doing anything wrong.

    I come online, I buy my own personal gold from my own personal sellers with MY funds while using Chicks Playerauctions for those juice premium rates, when I go to bed I see who is online and sell my gold for the same rate I bought it. Or; I'll let someone else sell my gold for me (again, my gold and my funds, no one gets commission for selling my gold, it's 100% mine.)

    Also; of course Veng is going to recommend me if he's out of stock. Myself and Veng are close friends and we trust each other enough to recommend our sellers/buyers to each other when we're out of stock. We use our own funds and our own golds. Nothing in the rules against recommending a friend to another seller. :)
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    I don't even need to respond to this lol
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    Because there is nothing to respond with.

    Everything that I do is well under the guidance of the rules, and unless there is a rule for not using someone elses Playerauctions account or working in harmony with other people so you don't get banned, then I'm more than willing to change the way I work.
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    Are you sure?
    Screenshot - aafecddc9ec44ca14315f808058d0213 - Gyazo
    Screenshot - bff1d29cfe47ffff0509bd7f335121d5 - Gyazo

    Your saying your using your own funds, yet your using everything exact same as VLAD and veng, who you just said work for chicks,

    So your also sending payment to them?
    You just managed to set up all same payment method as them in 10 second?

    oo and look at what you and veng thread appeared identically, with same payment method, same everything one day a part :O
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    Are we done now?
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    Me and Veng are close friends and we decided it would be great for us to start selling/buying gold on the side.
    So because two people open up a gold thread at the same time/1 day difference means they're working together? Looks like you're just trying to pull strings now ABM since everything you've screenshot/said is debunked.

    Let me show you how many people have similar threads.
    Go here: Buy RuneScape 3 EOC Gold (WTS threads)
    Click on "Title"
    See this:

    [​IMG]

    Look at all those threads with stars, does this mean myself and Divine are working together?

    As I said, if using someone elses Playerauctions account is against the rules, let me know and I'll stop linking the thread, until then, I'm not doing anything wrong. :)
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    If you know how PA works it’s extremely difficult to start fresh. A global mod is defending herself do you want her to just sit there and let people post against her and do nothing?
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    I completely agree with @Bryan

    Put aside the the issue of people who work for a gold shop having their own shop for a second.

    Starting fresh on PA is difficult for a reason, as it is on any website including here. You wouldn't allow me to jump on a friends Sythe account because he has vouches and appears reputable in order to get my sales would you? Taking that into account I can't see the logic in thinking that you should be allowed to do this with PA.

    The fact that you have done this shows that your motivation to achieve your goals overrules any morals with regards to honesty and integrity that you may have which is shameful at best.

    I've gone out of my way to contact PA with regards to the situation of account sharing abuse (yes abuse) for "juicy premium rates" to see their stance on the subject, and if they are somehow okay with it then I'll admit that I have no leg to stand on.

    I would be interested to hear how you handle the separation of funds being withdrawn from PA, however at this point i'm practically beating a wounded animal.
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    This rule is just dumb, they only got "caught" because they were open about it. Do it secretly and you will be able to abuse it forever, i've known a few websites that used a same livechat which were advertised by several high reputation users and no one knew what was going on for like a year. I'm just saying there is no way to monitor it if someone actually tries to hide it
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    So the tldr is @A Broken Man you're mad that chloe uses someone elses PA account, right. If this is all, are you aware it's perfectly normal and somewhat common for various traders to share each others payment methods/mules when they (temp) lack there own? How is this any different?
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    @Panda That being the case in a temporary scenario because of an uncommon occurrence (whatever that may be) has no relevancy to someone permanently using someones elses alias for their own personal gain.

    Unless I am mistaken, this is not temporary. It is for "premium rates", as stated by Chloe, and the reputable alias of someone who is not yourself. This is all for personal gain and not due to some mishap or unfortunate event rendering them without their own methods. Do you acknowledge that this isn't exactly an ethical practice?

    If this was occurring on Sythe with people using the accounts of other for the EXACT same purpose it wouldn't be tolerated in the slightest. I don't quite see how this should be treated differently.
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    ^

    When I've sold gold, I've gotten paid with the same accounts from different stores so many times.

    Account sharing is very common.
     
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    [STAFF POWER ABUSE] This is embarrassing, multiple staff abusing this rule for there own benefit.

    Account sharing isn't against the rules on Playerauctions as I've worked with Divicasales also on their PA account.
    What I do on Playerauctions is none of Sythe.orgs' business.

    Let me give you an example.
    Blackhat is allowed on Sythe (offsite wise) we cannot advertise that we're selling phising links/rats, however if they were to move to hackforums they can sell as many phising links/rats as they want as long as Sythe.org isn't involved.

    I sell MY gold on a website that IS NOT Sythe.org
    You're sitting here fighting against people who are selling on a different website, Sythe.org doesn't control Playerauctions, the same way Osbot allows users who are banned on Sythe on their website, why? Because Sythe and Osbot are different identities. It's redundant what I do on Playerauctions opposed to what I do on Sythe.org

    TL;DR You're not allowed to share accounts on Sythe.org which I am not doing.
    You are allowed to share accounts on Playerauctions which I am doing.

    Why is my PlayerAuctions account suspended?

    • Encourage friends or relatives to create their own account rather than let them use yours.
    No where does it say YOU CANNOT share accounts, they encourage you to create your own, however it's not a solid rule.

    As for defending myself, of course I'm going to defend myself against someone who is taking my words out of context.
    I have no more to say about this thread as a whole; my threads are bumped when I have funds/or I need funds for my PERSONAL gain. When I use Playerauctions there is no rule on Sythe nor Playerauctions saying I can't.
    I am completely happy to change my way of operation if an Admin+ chooses to change the rules.
     
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