Solipsism

[Faskist]

I will ignore your earlier post, Darby. Only because when we comes down to two people will different views who refuse to give up, no one will win.

Honestly, Darby .. Besides, if you imagined me, you wouldn't have gotten so upset that I tried proving you wrong, would you? I mean, after all, I am a small figment of your imagination.

No one can prove you wrong. Only you can contradict yourself, therefore proving yourself wrong. You can imagine what we do and what we say, but when you imagine what you do and say, you've already done it before you've imagined it. If not, you would have never imagined it in the first place.

The only way to tell if you are the supreme thinker .. You would have to never have lack of knowledge, which, forever, you would never be wrong. However, you have had a lack of knowledge in thinking of us all as different beings with opinions, and points to make as to why you are wrong. Once you've shown that each and every one of us has a different opinion and you may not know them, you have proven to us that you are not the one who imagined us.

Get it?

Not knowing everything doesn't disprove solipsism. My subconscious made a LOT of the world, obviously. I've had dreams with plot twists that surprised me, so don't be so quick to repeat what everyone else has said and been wrong about.

So did you also create pain and struggles because you were tired of living a painless and struggle free life?

What pain? What struggles? I dreamt this up minutes ago. Or maybe I dreamt it all up RIGHT NOW.

 

[Iminess]

I will ignore your earlier post, Darby. Only because when we comes down to two people will different views who refuse to give up, no one will win.

Honestly, Darby .. Besides, if you imagined me, you wouldn't have gotten so upset that I tried proving you wrong, would you? I mean, after all, I am a small figment of your imagination.

No one can prove you wrong. Only you can contradict yourself, therefore proving yourself wrong. You can imagine what we do and what we say, but when you imagine what you do and say, you've already done it before you've imagined it. If not, you would have never imagined it in the first place.

The only way to tell if you are the supreme thinker .. You would have to never have lack of knowledge, which, forever, you would never be wrong. However, you have had a lack of knowledge in thinking of us all as different beings with opinions, and points to make as to why you are wrong. Once you've shown that each and every one of us has a different opinion and you may not know them, you have proven to us that you are not the one who imagined us.

Get it?

god dayum owned

 

[Eric]

I will close by saing..

I AM A FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER GOD. PROVE ME WRONG!

 

[Faskist]

I will close by saing..

I AM A FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER GOD. PROVE ME WRONG!

Congratulations, the 3rd person to submit to my complete truth, and the impossibility of proving me wrong.

 

[♀Alien♀]

Well, if your subconscious made MOST of, or a LOT of the world, were are the other parts of the world?

Oh, don't tell me ..
If you can't see it within your vision, then it's not there? Alas, when you turn around to look at it, only is it there. Okay, well how about I come in the back of you and throw a basketball at the back of your head. Since you're not looking at it, it's not there. Lets see how you react to something that's not there .. :]

Oh, but you DID create the world, huh .. ?
Yeah, I thought so.

 

[Faskist]

Well, if your subconscious made MOST of, or a LOT of the world, were are the other parts of the world?

Oh, don't tell me ..
If you can't see it within your vision, then it's not there? Alas, when you turn around to look at it, only is it there. Okay, well how about I come in the back of you and throw a basketball at the back of your head. Since you're not looking at it, it's not there. Lets see how you react to something that's not there .. :]

Oh, but you DID create the world, huh .. ?
Yeah, I thought so.

Of course it's not there unless I'm interacting with it. Why does this have to mean sight?

 

[♀Alien♀]

Of course it's not there unless I'm interacting with it. Why does this have to mean sight?(What kind of crippled sentence??

Well, assuming that you are the supreme, you should have all of your senses.

If I shoot a gun behind you, and you don't see it, nor does it touch you, are you interacting with it?

If not, how is it there? You've obviously agreed to my post saying that if you don't see/feel it, it is not there. Well, one can only assume that you've agreed to it, seeing as you haven't tried contradicting it ..

You hear it, yes, but you have just said that for it to be there, you have to imagine it. Did you imagine it, but not interact with it? If so, then you've just went against your own words, thereby proving yourself wrong. You are not the supreme thinker, because the supreme thinker thinks of all. Including me and that discussion. Of course, a supreme thinker would not make any mistakes, because he/she thinks of it all. You have just made a mistake, therefore, you have been proven wrong. Thanks!

:]

 

[Faskist]

Well, assuming that you are the supreme, you should have all of your senses.

If I shoot a gun behind you, and you don't see it, nor does it touch you, are you interacting with it?

If not, how is it there? You've obviously agreed to my post saying that if you don't see/feel it, it is not there. Well, one can only assume that you've agreed to it, seeing as you haven't tried contradicting it ..

You hear it, yes, but you have just said that for it to be there, you have to imagine it. Did you imagine it, but not interact with it? If so, then you've just went against your own words, thereby proving yourself wrong. You are not the supreme thinker, because the supreme thinker thinks of all. Including me and that discussion. Of course, a supreme thinker would not make any mistakes, because he/she thinks of it all. You have just made a mistake, therefore, you have been proven wrong. Thanks!

:]

Good call, interact was a bad word to use. You still understood my point, though, and you should try responding to that instead of the mistake in how I've written it.

 

[♀Alien♀]

I should try nothing. At all. You are thinking of it all, right? So, why are you relying on your own thoughts to think of something. My thoughts are your thoughts, so if I have no thoughts, you have none.

I am not thinking, so you are not thinking. The supreme thinker thinks of all, and you are thinking of nothing. Therefore, you are not the supreme thinker.

SCOREEEEE 2! :]

 

[Faskist]

I should try nothing. At all. You are thinking of it all, right? So, why are you relying on your own thoughts to think of something. My thoughts are your thoughts, so if I have no thoughts, you have none.

I am not thinking, so you are not thinking. The supreme thinker thinks of all, and you are thinking of nothing. Therefore, you are not the supreme thinker.

SCOREEEEE 2! :]

It's lucky you're keeping score, son.

There's no reason why I can't interact with my creations, I've explained this countless times, and apparently you can't read.

 

[megaman 2006]

OK, let me try another argument.

You're just a human imagining us. I'm sure when you first started imagining us it was easy. You could see your room, imagine your mom coming in, etc. But as you started imagining a entire universe, You would eventually have billions of people running and interacting in this made up world.

Since you're subconscious fills in the bits you don't know about, it seems logical that you would assign certain parts of your mind to run everyone's lives. Like making a game, you need a different script to run different characters. So there is a script or a certain part of your mind running me right now, same with the birds, fish, everything. This is the designing part of your brain.

There is also your conscious which is viewing everything, typing back these replies, eating, etc. Now, I ask, how do you know that you, the person viewing the world(you) and the designer are the same people?

 

[Faskist]

OK, let me try another argument.

You're just a human imagining us. I'm sure when you first started imagining us it was easy. You could see your room, imagine your mom coming in, etc. But as you started imagining a entire universe, You would eventually have billions of people running and interacting in this made up world.

Since you're subconscious fills in the bits you don't know about, it seems logical that you would assign certain parts of your mind to run everyone's lives. Like making a game, you need a different script to run different characters. So there is a script or a certain part of your mind running me right now, same with the birds, fish, everything. This is the designing part of your brain.

There is also your conscious which is viewing everything, typing back these replies, eating, etc. Now, I ask, how do you know that you, the person viewing the world(you) and the designer are the same people?

That's actually an interesting argument, but still not foolproof. You don't exist except when I need you, and I fill in your memories as and when I call you.

The second part is even more interesting, and I can't answer that (Although it still doesn't disprove my original post).

 

[Iminess]

Wait so if you don't think of me i would not exsist, but i would still be a part of "YOUR" world?

So you only call upon us if you need up well answer this
If you are the creator what happens in the after life of a person, you are basically calling your self god, but this god does not exsist until you are dead and can find this so called being.
We will basically have the same memories since you are thinking what i am thinking of doing next would be actually you doing something inside me, but what if i was the creator and i was the supreme being then you would only be a fragment of my mind.
Maybe you are just dreaming all this and what everybody is going to do next, so you must be at all places at all time. But since you are god, then why can we still communicate with you while in REAL life, you can only contact him in the after life?
You are not the creator, since the creator would not have to answer any of our questions, since you and i think alike.

I am still waiting for my coke..

 

[theincrediblehaxx0r]

You don't have to be born, it's perfectly plausible that I imagined you, as you are, 5 minutes ago, or even right now, and my sub-conscious fills in the gaps that I don't know about you.

So if you are the only thing in the universe that exists, as you said 1/1, then what made you? How did you come into this world and how did you imagine everything? Who programmed you to imagine the whole universe? In order to have an imagination, you need to start somewhere, like have someone teach you something and you need to experience something, because if you didn't then you would have no material to imagine from.

That doesn't explain it, no 1 year old can imagine the complexity of the universe. Maybe what you are saying is that your brain was programmed to imagine everything, but then who programmed it? And how did you come into existence?

And if you can imagine anything, then I assume you lead a perfect life? Then why are you getting irritated at Alien and saying that he can't read? You obviously imagined what he said, but then you are getting mad at what you imagined?

 

[♀Alien♀]

It's lucky you're keeping score, son.

There's no reason why I can't interact with my creations, I've explained this countless times, and apparently you can't read.

Yes, I am keeping scores with the amount of times that I have outsmarted my "creator".

Oh, son? Son!??!?! Look, son .. I'm older than you. Deal with it!

Oh, I can read.. I can read very well ..

Since you are the creator and I am the creation, you're thinking of what I'm saying/typing at this exact moment. Okay, then. You have imagined me. You need no evidence or claims saying that you didn't imagine me, because you did. I am apart of your imagination, and you control me. Now, why did you create me? Out of the infinite number of things you could have created, why me?

 

[Faskist]

Wait so if you don't think of me i would not exsist, but i would still be a part of "YOUR" world?

So you only call upon us if you need up well answer this
If you are the creator what happens in the after life of a person, you are basically calling your self god, but this god does not exsist until you are dead and can find this so called being.
We will basically have the same memories since you are thinking what i am thinking of doing next would be actually you doing something inside me, but what if i was the creator and i was the supreme being then you would only be a fragment of my mind.
Maybe you are just dreaming all this and what everybody is going to do next, so you must be at all places at all time. But since you are god, then why can we still communicate with you while in REAL life, you can only contact him in the after life?
You are not the creator, since the creator would not have to answer any of our questions, since you and i think alike.

I am still waiting for my coke..

What is with you and thinking that I have control? In my dreams, I obey the laws of physics, because I'm not aware it's a dream.

None of your other arguments are written well enough for me to have any idea what you're talking about without the effort of translating from moron.

So if you are the only thing in the universe that exists, as you said 1/1, then what made you? How did you come into this world and how did you imagine everything? Who programmed you to imagine the whole universe? In order to have an imagination, you need to start somewhere, like have someone teach you something and you need to experience something, because if you didn't then you would have no material to imagine from.

That doesn't explain it, no 1 year old can imagine the complexity of the universe. Maybe what you are saying is that your brain was programmed to imagine everything, but then who programmed it? And how did you come into existence?

And if you can imagine anything, then I assume you lead a perfect life? Then why are you getting irritated at Alien and saying that he can't read? You obviously imagined what he said, but then you are getting mad at what you imagined?

I wish I could get everyone who posts "WHY DOES YOU OBEY LAWS OF PHYSICS LOL WHY DOESN'T YOU CREATE PERFECT WORLD LOL" infractions, I really do. I just end up repeating myself over and over, in between that Alien idiot repeating what everyone else has said (And been wrong about), correcting my spelling (My mistake, should have been corrupting, not correcting), and claiming to have outsmarted me.

 

[Denial]

Give us all 10kgs of pot, right now, and your right.
Fuck the laws of physics, change them, and change evidence of their previous state.
COUNTER OWNED.
if you imagine everything, why don't you just wipe your enemies from existence.
COUNTER OWNED.

 

[Iminess]

so your stating that you created all of us for a reason, you just created us to argue with you on a silly thread, you aint the creator your just High.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Ach, the inability of my mind to create pleasures for you who do not exist is immaterial. In fact, even if I could, why would I want to give you whatever you want? You don't exist, remember?

 

[EL17E]

You're right, I can't prove him wrong. But the chances of him being right are almost impossible because i doubt he has the brain capacity to understand the entire universe that he claims to have imagined himself (no offense lol). And if he did he probably wouldn't be posting on some forum right now while society is falling apart.

Well you must ask, what exactly is God? I doubt that it would be a human being tough.