Smokehut Appeal

[Unregistered Smokehut]

I've been incredibly busy irl for the last few weeks. I've had no time for Sythe at all really.

About 1-2 weeks ago I logged on to find new posts in my subscription box. I did not make them, so I requested a self ban from Shoop until I could get my computer clean. What I did notice was two newcomers posting on my MM thread for over $300 and then me accepting it. Which just raises my suspicion that these accounts aren't legitimate. Due to the fact my MM thread was hardly popular, I don't advertise it. So not a great chance of them scrolling to about 50 pages of the MM threads.

Just here to request an unban really, and curious as to what scam reports were made upon me as I have literally no idea.

Thanks, Smoke.

 

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http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=11652265 led to your ban, but http://www.sythe.org/characters-levels-100-138/1490837-selling-turmoil-zerker.html#post11655284 shows that he recovered his account after your hacker scammed it. I don't believe you owe anyone anything but I'll leave this open for a little bit so I or others can look further

 

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Leddii claims your hacker scammed $500 from him as well, I'm guessing through paypal. I've pm'ed leddii for proof of this but he hasn't been online in over a month

 

[Unregistered SmokeHut]

Okay, well it's been a while. I thought I'd leave it to see how it goes and I didn't quite expect to be banned for this long, but with the accusations made against me I guess time isn't relevant.

The latest update was that Leddi claims my hacker scammed $500, though his post on my MM thread was for $350. I find it really unlikely this transaction took place, perhaps if the people who used me were a little more reputable I would probably assume it did happen. I can't check their created threads or posts to find out whether a topic on an account sale for $350 even existed as I can't log in to check.

:::

I also think it's about time I showed a little more story to myself also, in 2005 I created an account called White_Razor0 http://www.sythe.org/members/55787-white_razor0.html - some may remember me, some might not. RsProd probably will. I was active in intervals when I was in and out of Runescape. Then late 2011 I decided I'd hardly built a reputation, friends or anything for that matter. So I decided I needed a clean plate, I looked through all the rules of no interaction and decided to go for gold on SmokeHut. I'm assuming this isn't really news to you though Video, as you're one who's on the ball

So if I'm going to remain banned, you'll need to take this account down too.

Also, I'm on a new IP address because I've moved property since I was banned.


I can't really see a good side of this in my favor so if that's the case, I'd like to bid you all a farewell and hope I don't be remembered as a scammer after spending 8 years nearly on the forum. Not as a "famous" character, but one who enjoyed the community.

Cheers, White/Smoke.

 

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Proof of scam was pm'ed to me recently, leddii also posted on 2 mm threads before posting on yours, leading me to think this is not a setup. He said he was attempting a dispute on the payments. If he wins the disputes, I would think that you could come back without owing anyone. I'll update this if leddii messages me back

 

[Unregistered SmokeHut]

Thanks for the update Video.

There's a question I need to ask, but first I'd like to point out that's not my paypal or my skype.

- If my hacker was conducting the MM service for both of them, why would the MM receive the money for an account trade? Usually the process is the buyer of the account would hold the money. The mm would take the account information, change the password make sure no recoveries or email is attached and that the account was that of which the buyer was lead to believe. Then once all is confirmed, the buyer would send the seller the cash through paypal or whatever and then when that is confirmed the MM would provide the buyer with the account information.

So, if that's the case. then why would of the buyer send the middle man $350? also is there proof from the skype conversation that my hacker had provided leddi with that paypal email address, and is there proof that I sent them confirmation of myself through Sythe. ( I know it wouldn't of been hard for my hacker to do ) but if not, then this is no more than being scammed by an impostor? Also, was my contact information on my Sythe account updated by the hacker? as I know I was banned for a skype name that wasn't even mine on the actual "report a scammer" thread that was opened against me?

Because if that's the case I'd also like to post a suggestion that in future contact details like skype etc cannot be updated without an email confirmation or a delay of around 1 week?

Thanks for looking into it for me Video, it's much appreciated.

Smoke.

 

[Unregistered SmokeHut]

Sorry for the double post.

But after looking into that email address it comes back as a previously banned member of sythe; http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=10988028 .

Also, it comes back to requesting information on hacking hotmail & gmail accounts.

But my password wasn't changed on Sythe, So it's a mystery to me. As I use a MacBook Pro.

 

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Thanks for the update Video.

There's a question I need to ask, but first I'd like to point out that's not my paypal or my skype.

- If my hacker was conducting the MM service for both of them, why would the MM receive the money for an account trade? Usually the process is the buyer of the account would hold the money. The mm would take the account information, change the password make sure no recoveries or email is attached and that the account was that of which the buyer was lead to believe. Then once all is confirmed, the buyer would send the seller the cash through paypal or whatever and then when that is confirmed the MM would provide the buyer with the account information.

So, if that's the case. then why would of the buyer send the middle man $350? also is there proof from the skype conversation that my hacker had provided leddi with that paypal email address, and is there proof that I sent them confirmation of myself through Sythe. ( I know it wouldn't of been hard for my hacker to do ) but if not, then this is no more than being scammed by an impostor? Also, was my contact information on my Sythe account updated by the hacker? as I know I was banned for a skype name that wasn't even mine on the actual "report a scammer" thread that was opened against me?

Because if that's the case I'd also like to post a suggestion that in future contact details like skype etc cannot be updated without an email confirmation or a delay of around 1 week?

Thanks for looking into it for me Video, it's much appreciated.

Smoke.

http://www.sythe.org/middleman-foru...ts-free-middle-man-serivece.html#post11652096

This is adequate proof that the imposter was talking to them and had hacked your sythe. I'm guessing that since the imposter was out to scam the entire time, he thought he could get away with taking the account and the paypal funds too.

Perhaps the email registered to your sythe was hacked?

 

[Unregistered]

Thanks for the reply Video.

The Skype/Email attached on that thread aren't mine. So the hacker has changed the thread to suit his accounts. My skype is "smokehuts".

But regardless, it was on my thread.

I'm still using the same email without having to of changed the password, as it was different to my Sythe password.

I guess we can leave this until the dispute gives us an answer, hopefully refunding Leddi.

 

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"they have refunded only 350 of it, i still have 150 i have not been able to retrieve, got photos of my paypal, and they decided to close my account due to my actions."

He says he was scammed for $500 in total, I'll follow up for proof of the full amount

 

[Unregistered SmokeHut]

Thanks yet again Video.

I'm more than pleased that he's been refunded $350 of the total amount, but why did he send another $150 on top of that?

Also, do paypal close your account or limit them, for this type of thing? because if it's limited he can still see previous transactions.

 

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He said only the $350 was returned, but I can ask him again if there've been any updates

 

[Unregistered SmokeHut]

I've left this another while to hopefully see an update on the other parties behalf, is it likely I'll ever receive an unban for this?

In this current situation I've got a choice to either refund the guy who was scammed $150, or fight it.

Now all I ask is that he explains the following; If you entered into a deal between yourself, my hacker and the seller of the account. For $350 is all you had to pay to receive the account. Why after you paid the $350 did you send another $150? It's all good and well saying that if someone has access to your account you're liable, but I'd like to know why you sent another $150 I just find it very odd..?

 

[Unregistered]

Seems like my Appeal is like a rock dropping to the bottom of this forum !

Literally, I will repay leddi or give the money to an admin.

All I ask, is that he provides evidence for the $150.

He entered a trade with proof of $350, which was refunded through a chargeback. Every bit of evidence relates to the $350.

But the $150 AFTER the $350 was conducted, not one bit of evidence has been provided for it. Apart from the fact it was actually sent to my hacker. All I want to see is the evidence for the $150 and if it's for a genuine cause ( Which I cannot understand would be ) then I'll repay him. But I've remained banned now for quite a large period of time without any evidence from the $150 being provided as to why it was sent.

I would like to see myself back on these forums, especially since my computer, email and everything else was not victimized by this hacker. Just my sythe account. I feel that I did nothing wrong.

 

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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ewjw48&s=6
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=34j9hu9&s=6
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vtqtsi&s=6

Dug these up from an earlier pm I got from leddii. He hasn't been online in about a week and I don't know if paypal's refunded him yet for the $150. I'd imagine that they would, given that he got his $350 back

 

[Unregistered]

Thanks for the reply Video, I'll leave it until the 29th of this month. If he hasn't been refunded by then I'll refund him $150.

 

[Unregistered smokehut]

Any update?

 

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Leddii hasn't been online in about 3 weeks, I don't think it's fair to keep you banned due to his inactivity and lack of replies. Make an account recovery thread so we can get the account back in your control. Also be sure to include your real skype address in the thread. If Leddii ever replies in the future, you'll have to pay him back (assuming he never won the dispute)