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Simba's Main Problem
So I decided to give Simba a go, downloaded and set everything up, had to fix an error but that wasn't a problem. Then load up MSI(their main scripts package)only to find that many of these scripts have problems in them, the yew clicker wouldn't click, the Rimmington miner had walking problems. Now I'm not complaining, hell I'm impressed with how far Simba has come. So Simba has one main problem, not enough flawless working scripts, I'm guessing the reasons for this are :

  1. Scripts are in Pascal
  2. Color

Seeing as the scripts are in Pascal there aren't a lot of people in the RS Cheating scene who dabble in this language and would be more beneficial if they were in Java however since it uses SCAR as the client, Freddy would have to change SCAR.

Color is the second problem, there are so many more things that can go wrong in a color script then say a script which uses reflection, so that means a lot of these problems need to be reported as the scripter can't think of every one.

What do you guys think?
 
Simba's Main Problem
Why did you only check out MSI? their main scripts use SRL not MSI, there are alot of good scripts myself personally have used safecracker, the gilded altar script aswell as the firemaking script, all working very well, you're definitely dwelling in the wrong section of simba
 
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inpherus said:
Why did you only check out MSI? their main scripts use SRL not MSI, there are alot of good scripts myself personally have used safecracker, the gilded altar script aswell as the firemaking script, all working very well, you're definitely dwelling in the wrong section of simba
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I figured MSI would be best, then tried to load another script from the forum and it gave me an error (twas midnight at the time) so I just gave up and am using a working MSI script. :)
 
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iJava said:
however since it uses SCAR as the client, Freddy would have to change SCAR.
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SCAR is a program, just like Simba. SMART is the plugin that loads the Runescape client.

iJava said:
Color is the second problem, there are so many more things that can go wrong in a color script then say a script which uses reflection, so that means a lot of these problems need to be reported as the scripter can't think of every one.
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Maybe you should consider the options available at hand. We have color and OGL, that's about it. Reflection is thus far illegal publicly, not to mention very difficult to use now.
 
Simba's Main Problem
iJava said:
So I decided to give Simba a go, downloaded and set everything up, had to fix an error but that wasn't a problem. Then load up MSI(their main scripts package)only to find that many of these scripts have problems in them, the yew clicker wouldn't click, the Rimmington miner had walking problems. Now I'm not complaining, hell I'm impressed with how far Simba has come. So Simba has one main problem, not enough flawless working scripts, I'm guessing the reasons for this are :

  1. Scripts are in Pascal
  2. Color

Seeing as the scripts are in Pascal there aren't a lot of people in the RS Cheating scene who dabble in this language and would be more beneficial if they were in Java however since it uses SCAR as the client, Freddy would have to change SCAR.

What do you guys think?
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MSI is just another script, but except its very very big. Unfortunately the lead developer (Coh3n) recently stepped back, so the updates for it is kind of slow.

Leave MSI a side, there are plenty of script that works well and has been working well for a LONG LONG time, but because villavu is a open community, you will find a lot of scripts by new scripters which might have some problems. But since they are still learning, one day they will have the knowledge and skills to make a flawless script aswell.

Color could go wrong some time, but after practicing it will only take a little bit of skill to make it fail proof. Right now JBot, Scar and SImba is all color bots, tri bot is hopping to be opengl but its not completed yet.
I agree that color is not ideal, if reflection is back then it would be much easier to make bots from, but since we don't have a working reflection alternative and color botting has been around since like 2003 and its pretty much unbreakable (in long term) its the only thing the cheating community can use.

Pascal is simplier than simba, am sure you know java but if you just do a little comparison your self you can see this is very clear.
 
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Reflection and Byte-code injection have made people take botting for granted. Even with the awesome functions built in it is very difficult to create a "perfect" script for Simba/SCAR , but honestly I rather script in Pascal than Java. Main I heard a rumor that Simba would be supporting Python is there any truth to that?s
 
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I have no idea, but I heard talks about it.


There should be no difference with any language you wish to use in botting, unless one supports multi threading and the other don't (like simba). But honestly, it'll take a good developer to make that work efficiently, and besides, its easier to do "fake" multi threading.

Language really shouldn't matter.
As for color, its the only option we got right now.
 
Simba's Main Problem
iJava said:
  1. Scripts are in Pascal
  2. Color

Seeing as the scripts are in Pascal there aren't a lot of people in the RS Cheating scene who dabble in this language and would be more beneficial if they were in Java however since it uses SCAR as the client, Freddy would have to change SCAR.

Color is the second problem, there are so many more things that can go wrong in a color script then say a script which uses reflection, so that means a lot of these problems need to be reported as the scripter can't think of every one.

What do you guys think?
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We use color because we have always used color and it has always worked.
As you know, since the nuke color is the only (working) way to bot right now.
Also color has never, and will never die, so we stick with it, unless Jagex makes runescape for blind people, SRL will always live. A lot of us also like the fun and challenge of writing scripts with color.

As for the pascal part, yes it's an old and primitive language, but the language a script is made in has nothing to do with it's ability.

SRL works with Simba, OSI works with SCAR they are two different things now.

As for walking problems, MSI uses SPS to walk, and SPS is a bit buggy right now. A new and more stable version of SPS will be out soon and work a lot better, you can also try this tweak to make SPS work better:
http://villavu.com/forum/showpost.php?p=869479&postcount=2
Some locations work great, like Lumbridge Swamp Mine walks perfectly, but others do not. Just wait for new SPS and it should be a lot better.

We have tons of super stable long lasting scripts too, many of the better ones are just kept in members only :p,but there are tons of good public ones, and like I said once new SPS is out MSI will be even more awesome.


JaminB said:
Reflection and Byte-code injection have made people take botting for granted. Even with the awesome functions built in it is very difficult to create a "perfect" script for Simba/SCAR , but honestly I rather script in Pascal than Java. Main I heard a rumor that Simba would be supporting Python is there any truth to that?s
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There's been lots of talk about it for a long time, and many people are excited for/want it, but I don't think it's too high on the priority list. I can see it happening eventually though
 
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