Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

[Shin]

The arguments in support of making the bump button mandatory I don't find to be very strong. If someone does have a good argument I would like to hear it.

Check my post out.

 

[John Devola]

Didn't even know it existed and looking at my thread I still cant find it.
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[Variously]

Is there functionality to allow people besides the OP to bump a thread with the button? I bump a thread advertising a CC, but I am not the OP of the thread. I have edit access for the first post but I don't have bump button access.

If this functionality doesn't exist then I think there will be issues with making the bump button mandatory. I'm sure a lot of gold seller threads are bumped by their workers.

 

Didn't even know it existed and looking at my thread I still cant find it.
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It's at the bottom of the thread and the thread must not have been for 8 hours before

 

[John Devola]

It's at the bottom of the thread and the thread must not have been for 8 hours before

Ah so it disapeers. Perhaps if it was greyed out (with a timer) then I would be more aware it exists? Ill use it from now on ty.

Also maybe putting it at the top would help

 

[Sebast]

fuck off no support i like my bumps i live on my bumps i thrive on my bumps ok?

 

[Heeatz]

No support. Habit for some people who have been on this site for years. Why punish habit?

 

[John Devola]

Just wanted to update that I couldnt find the bump button. Still no clue where it is

 

Just wanted to update that I couldnt find the bump button. Still no clue where it is

On some thread such as middle man they're unavailable , I'm sure why of this,
but in runescape and private server section they are

 

[Lorenzo]

No support as well, trust shouldn't be based off of post count as it is. So typing in bump shouldn't reflect that as a positive or a negative.

 

No support as well, trust shouldn't be based off of post count as it is. So typing in bump shouldn't reflect that as a positive or a negative.

So there is no issue with changing how bumping should be done?

 

[Bis]

I didn't even know there was a bump button lol

But I don't think it should be mandatory, I've been reading through replies and if post count doesn't count torward trust then it shouldn't matter whether you gain post count from bumping or not should it?

I'm struggling to see the actual issue people have with bumping manually apart from post count which shouldn't really be considered an issue seeing as this is a FORUM

 

I didn't even know there was a bump button lol

But I don't think it should be mandatory, I've been reading through replies and if post count doesn't count torward trust then it shouldn't matter whether you gain post count from bumping or not should it?

I'm struggling to see the actual issue people have with bumping manually apart from post count which shouldn't really be considered an issue seeing as this is a FORUM

Post count is the biggest reason for why users are against the change. The argument should be flipped. If it does not matter, then why be against making the button mandatory? Logically it makes no sense to use the button over posting manually unless you're using the feature that is associated with it and even then it's trumped by being able to gain post count effortlessly. It kind of spoils the reason for it's creation. For quality purposes, it makes sense to make it mandatory. See my reply a page back listing some reasons.

 

[Bis]

Post count is the biggest reason for why users are against the change. The argument should be flipped. If it does not matter, then why be against making the button mandatory? Logically it makes no sense to use the button over posting manually unless you're using the feature that is associated with it and even then it's trumped by being able to gain post count effortlessly. It kind of spoils the reason for it's creation. For quality purposes, it makes sense to make it mandatory. See my reply a page back listing some reasons.

Hey, thanks for that I went back and looked at your positives list and I agree with you in every point you made of why it would be a positive (besides #5 because I'm still not totally sure on what Sythe gold is lol).

I think the point you're maybe missing is that people don't really like change, from what I'm reading there has never been a bump button before and people enjoy gaining "effortless" post count so they're inclined to side against you whether it would be a benefit to the site or not.

People will be more concerned with their own wants as opposed as to what's best for the overall community and as sad as the reality is, it applies to real-life too, it's like offering 1 Sythe member $10,000 or if they choose decline the whole website gets $1,000 each, 9/10 times the persons taking that $10,000 for themselves.

So in conclusion, you are right, I agree, it would be beneficial given the points you made, so I changed my vote to yes, however sadly, not everyone's will put the community over themselves in terms of priority and beneficial change.

 

[Lorenzo]

So there is no issue with changing how bumping should be done?

The point is changing bumping isn't going to do anything but piss of people who have been doing it the same way forever, there is zero benefit to changing it. Because post count isn't a symbol of trust.

 

[Bis]

The point is changing bumping isn't going to do anything but piss of people who have been doing it the same way forever, there is zero benefit to changing it. Because post count isn't a symbol of trust.

I agree with the first point about it just pissing people off but you're being completely narrow minded toward the actual point he's trying to make.

Your argument is basically "Post count doesn't make you trusted so there doesn't need to be a bump button".

I don' think he's actually trying to say that it should be mandatory because of post count being about trust, if you actually looked at the points you'd realise that most if not all of them are actually accurate and relevant.

Here are some positives for making the button mandatory:

1. No moderation or policing is necessary to combat over bumping threads.

2. The market looks cleaner.

3. It would be easier to see posts, most likely offers or questions being posted on the threads without it being buried under numerous bump posts.

4. Gaining post count would be sought for outside the market, meaning the community as a whole grows.

5. More Sythe Gold would be dumped as a result of the button being the only option.

You can't tell me this list of benefits isn't accurate. You say post count has no correlation with trust yet you don't want to accept that making it mandatory COULD be an actual benefit if you look at the FACTS and not your WANTS.

You're post is just bandwagoning the rest of the opposes without giving any REAL reasoning.

 

The point is changing bumping isn't going to do anything but piss of people who have been doing it the same way forever, there is zero benefit to changing it. Because post count isn't a symbol of trust.

Change will always be unsettling for a lot of people. That doesn't mean we shouldn't evolve to appease those people.

 

[Offizier]

Maybe once the button has been around long enough for everyone to be familiar with it, but at the current time most people don't even know one was added.

The only way I'd support making the bump button mandatory is if they sent out a PM to every player with instructions on how to use it.

 

We're about to ban manual bumping you'll only be able to use bump button

/approved?

 

[Tyler]

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