Secret US Embassy Cables

[Honeo]

As some of you may or may not know, a certain someone in the military released over 250,000 government documents to WikiLeaks, New York Times, and many other media organizations.

View here: http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/

Wikileaks began on Sunday November 28th publishing 251,287 leaked United States embassy cables, the largest set of confidential documents ever to be released into the public domain. The documents will give people around the world an unprecedented insight into US Government foreign activities.

The cables, which date from 1966 up until the end of February this year, contain confidential communications between 274 embassies in countries throughout the world and the State Department in Washington DC. 15,652 of the cables are classified Secret.

The embassy cables will be released in stages over the next few months. The subject matter of these cables is of such importance, and the geographical spread so broad, that to do otherwise would not do this material justice.

The cables show the extent of US spying on its allies and the UN; turning a blind eye to corruption and human rights abuse in "client states"; backroom deals with supposedly neutral countries; lobbying for US corporations; and the measures US diplomats take to advance those who have access to them.

This document release reveals the contradictions between the US’s public persona and what it says behind closed doors – and shows that if citizens in a democracy want their governments to reflect their wishes, they should ask to see what’s going on behind the scenes.

Every American schoolchild is taught that George Washington – the country’s first President – could not tell a lie. If the administrations of his successors lived up to the same principle, today’s document flood would be a mere embarrassment. Instead, the US Government has been warning governments -- even the most corrupt -- around the world about the coming leaks and is bracing itself for the exposures.

The full set consists of 251,287 documents, comprising 261,276,536 words (seven times the size of "The Iraq War Logs", the world's previously largest classified information release).

The cables cover from 28th December 1966 to 28th February 2010 and originate from 274 embassies, consulates and diplomatic missions.

This is pretty remarkable, but also controversial. Yes, we have a freedom of speech, but is this going to far? Should the public be able to view international issues like his? Could this be detrimental to any relationships we, or any countries for that matter, have?

My personal take is, we shouldn't have access to this. This is too much information to throw at the public at once. Let's hear what you all think.

 

[kill dank]

My personal take is, we shouldn't have access to this. This is too much information to throw at the public at once. Let's hear what you all think.

If they wouldn't have been keeping secrets from us in the first place, the information wouldn't be getting thrown at us all at once. I think almost any government documents should be accessible by anyone if they so choose.

 

[Exampe]

Won't this be the downfall of everything pretty much? It exposes everything and everyone basicaly. Goverment=l2notfail

 

[Rawrasaurus]

It is good in a way that the public know what is happening, and that the government cannot hold any secrets from us, however it is bad as foreign countries (particularly those who are rivals) can also access this information.

 

[NextSoulreaper]

That is a supposed DDoS attacker hack.

 

[Persia_Ugly]

I think this leak is a threat to national security, in fact its a threat to world security. I'm not saying this is going to be apocalyptic, world war, nuclear or anything drastic like that. I am merely saying that the information will be documented and scrutinized by every single government, I am sure there are many things the various countries won't be happy with. This in turn creates alot of problems. (diplomatic embargos for one example)

That is a supposed DDoS attacker hack.

I think you just made that up, unless you can show your sources.

 

[pure skillzz]

This document release reveals the contradictions between the US’s public persona and what it says behind closed doors

Is this really a surprise to any of you? If it is then you must be blind.

 

[kill dank]

I just saw this in the newspaper today. Govment wansta try 'nd take em down

 

[Honeo]

That is a supposed DDoS attacker hack.

Completely made up. I read an article in the New York Times. They have accused a military man (sergeant I believe) of releasing the files.

Is this really a surprise to any of you? If it is then you must be blind.

No, just now the public has proof.

Won't this be the downfall of everything pretty much? It exposes everything and everyone basicaly. Goverment=l2notfail

Not completely. You would be nieve to think that other countries don't act in the same ways we do, or even knew what we were up to in the first place. It may hurt some relations, but importantly embarrass some countries government.

I just saw this in the newspaper today. Govment wansta try 'nd take em down

Sounds about right. It will never happen though. Hundreds of thousands of people hold these articles on documents or on their computers. They will keep being uploaded as fast as the government takes them down.

 

[i3urnin_Up]

Hahah the US government getting exposed...
99.99999999999% of people in this country are uniformed and
have no idea how shit is really set up.

 

[NextSoulreaper]

I think this leak is a threat to national security, in fact its a threat to world security. I'm not saying this is going to be apocalyptic, world war, nuclear or anything drastic like that. I am merely saying that the information will be documented and scrutinized by every single government, I am sure there are many things the various countries won't be happy with. This in turn creates alot of problems. (diplomatic embargos for one example)





I think you just made that up, unless you can show your sources.

According to google, There have been multiple DDoS attacks on That site.
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WikiLeaks was hit today with another denial-of-service attack as controversy about the massive document leak continued.

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WikiLeaks was hit by another blow from a denial-of-service attack today.

Though the attack initially focused on cablegate.wikileaks.org – the site WikiLeaks is using to host its cache of diplomatic cables – the attackers eventually moved on to wikileaks.org. Earlier today, WikiLeaks posted a message on its ******* feed that the attack had exceeded 10 Gigabits per second.

“The attacks are likely to be symbolic more than anything else, as several large media groups have already been supplied with the full set of leaked messages,” blogged Paul Mutton of Netcraft.

A similar situation arose Nov. 28, just hours before WikiLeaks began posting more than 250,000 U.S. embassy diplomatic cables online. In that case, a ******* user going by the name th3j35t3r (“Jester”) claimed responsibility for the attack in a tweet, and listed a number of other sites along with the message “TANGO DOWN” to indicate they had been taken down as well.

As of publishing, both the wikileaks.org and cablegate.wikileaks.org sites were back online.
There you go, here's link to the article:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/WikiLeaks-Struck-With-DoS-Again-644715/
I can post a picture if you want

 

[XSafire]

The government should keep so me stuff from the general population. Some things are best left unknown to the public. Like if a commander makes a decision in the heat of war that ends up killing US soldiers. It is technically the commanders fault but war isn't perfect, quite the opposite. If the field report was released then the families of the lost soldiers could demand the commander be released, court martialed, etc.

As to things like the Chineese ordering an attack on Google's servers (this is one of the leaks) I think the US has a right to know what other countries are doing that are affecting US citizens.

 

[already over]

Won't this be the downfall of everything pretty much? It exposes everything and everyone basicaly. Goverment=l2notfail

THIS^

The documents are normal diplomatic correspondence

To have diplomats in each other countries that can type and send messages confidential home, is an important part of being able to have a relationship between the two countries.
This will gain more attention in the media and to the public than the goverment will.

 

[JohnK]

I guess its good that the truth is being revealed but it's just gonna fuck with people. I think the founder Julian Assange is gonna walk a free man when this all blows over.. He should be able to. Saw an interesting article about it today on Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/03/wikileaks-online-presence_n_791699.html

 

[xook]

The guy who made the wikileaks site will end up dead... the C.I.A. is going to own him, I feel for his life..

 

[JohnK]

The guy who made the wikileaks site will end up dead... the C.I.A. is going to own him, I feel for his life..

Maybe... he might end up in a swedish prison. Anyone here about Michael Moore paying for his bail and declaring his full support? I bet I can guess what his next documentary is on...