scammers...

[Dial]

Implying accumulating vouches makes one trustworthy.

You realize someone could easily sell 20-30 upgrades in a day (without going first, mind you) and feasibly have 100-200 vouches in a week? If anything, quality of vouches > quantity of vouches.

P.S - In my eyes, Amethyst is easily more trustworthy than you.

This. I earned probably 150 vouches from small questing orders then stopped. I now do huge $100+ transactions (mostly website orders/consultations), and don't even ask for vouches anymore. They're not useful to me at all.

I don't judge you by your vouches at all.

 

[symphony888]

Just to toss this in. I distrust symphony888 just by his posts on this thread. He's gonna scam a big amount if he gets the chance.

And honestly out of everyone on this thread.


Amemthys is the one I would trust the most, followed by these 2 staff mebers, miner, zuzell.

You might be right, you might be wrong. If you think that way, be it. I don't have any intention to scam. Scamming is useless. You scam once, and you're done. If you stay legit, you earn more. Logic.

Implying accumulating vouches makes one trustworthy.

You realize someone could easily sell 20-30 upgrades in a day (without going first, mind you) and feasibly have 100-200 vouches in a week? If anything, quality of vouches > quantity of vouches.

P.S - In my eyes, Amethyst is easily more trustworthy than you.

Maybe I have not known him. Yes I do realized 20-30 upgrades in a day and you can get a lot of vouches in a few weeks. Besides I am not comparing him to anyone or anything. I did not even state that I'm more trustworthy than him.


But for one thing I know, when someone is a higher rank than me, I regard them as trusted in my eyes. Farcast, you may not have a lot of vouches but I know one thing you are trusted.

 

[UniversalHacks]

I don't judge by vouches anymore tbh. I just by personality and reputation, which sometimes does have a lot to do with vouches. For example R2P and Grave have a lot of vouches, and very good reputations, well known ect, them I trust. However a upgrade seller with 500 vouches whom I have never heard of, and he does nothing besides sell upgrades I don't trust. Same goes for an inactive member of 3 years with 200 vouches. Also it isn't really hard to tell when people are not legit by a conversation on MSN/Skype. I can pretty easily tell who I trust after a conversation on Skype.

 

[venom]

But for one thing I know, when someone is a higher rank than me, I regard them as trusted in my eyes. Farcast, you may not have a lot of vouches but I know one thing you are trusted.

You never trust anyone you don't know over the internet, regardless of how well known they may be.

 

[ASAPgang]

I wouldn't deem you as trusted member due to the amount and value of your vouches. I don't care if someone is active on the forums, has a high donor rank, or an old join date, that does not play a factor into trade; past transactions do. But hey that's my opinion, don't take it to heart.

I wasn't asking for your opinion on my trustworthiness. All I was trying to say was that, how can someone deem another trustworthy just because he has 150+ vouches.. I could accumulate that amount of vouches within weeks, easily.
My opinion is that trustworthiness is deemed by:
A) Amount of high end vouches, from reputable members or large trades.
B) How active and well known a member is within the community
C) Their personality

I would never, ever deem someone trustworthy just because they have 150+ vouches. And how he phrased it, he seemed he was implying that if someone had any less than that, you shouldn't trust them.. That is bias.

Also, I never mentioned a donor rank so I don't know where you pulled that one from.
So, in regards to what you were saying, I don't understand how you, yourself, would deem another person trustworthy? So, if you don't go by how active, well known or join date, presumably you only go by ones vouches? Bias again. Don't take it to heart.

You're new.


Also @ OP
If you got problems during trades, you can always ask someone to help you with them, EG. Mods, Official middlemans, unofficial middlemans. There are tons of peopel who'll gladly help you. Always check vouches if they're legit (Click > arrow in quotes), always request sythe PM, make sure person you're trading with is worth the trust.

I never proclaimed to be an old fag.. I know I'm new to this forum.

 

[symphony888]

Different people have different views like I said in my post. So it is up to themselves to judge who are trusted for them and who are not.

Just my point of view ya know.

 

[ASAPgang]

Different people have different views like I said in my post. So it is up to themselves to judge who are trusted for them and who are not.

Just my point of view ya know.

That's true, I shouldn't preach my perspective to yourself. But at the end of the day, I guess it's up to the user to decide who is trustworthy and who is not.

 

[symphony888]

That's true, I shouldn't preach my perspective to yourself. But at the end of the day, I guess it's up to the user to decide who is trustworthy and who is not.

It's cool mate No worries about it.

 

[samrobinson1991]

Just use a MM or even a OMM for more security.
Issue solved

 

[ranzers]

Always ask for a PM, and also just because someone is a Newcomer doesn't mean instantly turn away from them. Yes , some of them are scammers but the ones who are legit have to start from somewhere so if you see newcomer, just ask for a pm and simply say you'd like an MM/OMM or for them to go first!

 

[Laurie]

Maybe not. 4,600 posts? Don't give a shit, it doesn't show that you're trustworthy. Posts counts is nothing. 6 years, don't give a shit too mate. Sorry.
50 vouches? I scanned through your Vouches page, not even close to 30 mate.

You're right, about my current thread, which is around 11 or something. I had a previous vouch thread.

4600 posts in 6 years is absolutely nothing.

 

[Heads447]

Always ask for a PM, and also just because someone is a Newcomer doesn't mean instantly turn away from them. Yes , some of them are scammers but the ones who are legit have to start from somewhere so if you see newcomer, just ask for a pm and simply say you'd like an MM/OMM or for them to go first!

stfu vader. can someone ban this fag? im on my phone atm.

 

[lomboro]

Use middleman and/or common sense

 

[KLDG]

All of you are saying that the number of vouches don't matter. But I am required to get them to remove my TWC...LOL This community cracks me up sometimes.

 

[Laurie]

All of you are saying that the number of vouches don't matter. But I am required to get them to remove my TWC...LOL This community cracks me up sometimes.

It's not about quantity, it's about quality.

 

[KLDG]

Then why does my dispute saying I need "more" vouches...This place is crazy...

 

[Darking]

If you are talking to an Imposter, you will get scammed.
If you request a PM and can confirm the trusted users identity,
You shoudn't have a problem

 

[woodcut ox]

How can you say only trade with people over 150+ vouches? that doesn't deem someone to be trustworthy because they have a specific amount of vouches.. Someone who is active on the forums, been a member for a long time has a few amounts of legitimate vouches from trusted members is what I'd call a trusted member..

I don't have 150+ vouches, am I untrustworthy? no.

Exactly, I never even kept vouches. but I have bought and sold over like 10 runescape accounts when i was into that plus i bought/sold some SSGP before and never got scammed once.

I suggest that you just do increments with people that seem trustworthy (check the vouches they have too, see if there's an obvious fake). And have them go first. Sorry to hear you've had a pretty bad experience so far.

 

[HenrySpencer]

Collect proof from future trades showing that they did in fact scam you so that you can get rid of them from the community forever. You will run into good people that you can always go to for services and will find which faces are trustworthy and which are face as hell. Everyone gets scammed when they start. Just make sure it's them through pm on the site thus showing proof just in case they do scam you. Sorry I said a lot of the same things over and over again, my mind is just bouncing everywhere.

 

[ScrappedGP]

It is probably because you are new, i have the same problem. Just chill here on sythe until you aren't new and give it another shot. Be smart though.