Scammers on sythe. TRUST ISSUES

[arianit]

You should only ever put your trust in people who deserve it. You get to be the judge of that. Take a look at a person's vouches before trading. It's the quality, not the quantity that matters. A proper vouch shows that the person giving the vouch trusted the seller with an amount of money at a given point during the trade.

Example of what a meaningful vouch is: Person A gives 200M RSGP to Person B upfront. Upon receiving the gold, Person B pays Person A. Person A vouches for Person B.
Why is this an example of a good vouch? Person B could have walked away with 200M at any point after receiving it. Yet he chose to pay up, therefore showing he is trustworthy.

Example of a ridiculous vouch: Person A gives 200M RSGP to Person B upfront. Upon receiving the gold, Person B pays Person A. Person B then vouches for person A.
This is a meaningless vouch as Person A never did have the opportunity to abuse your trust. During this trade, nothing was at stake for person B. It's ridiculous how many such vouches you see around. Use your common sense. Such vouches are meaningless.

P.S. Take a look at my vouches below and you should get an idea of what I mean. Sorry for your loss, but be more careful next time. There's only a handful of people I'd trust with account sales.

Couldn't agree more.. very well explained thank you.

 

[Bert]

I like tht 50 vouch minimum rule to sell accs, but even then, buyung an account is always a big risk

 

I like tht 50 vouch minimum rule to sell accs, but even then, buyung an account is always a big risk

And as always it depends on the quality of the vouch...

 

Speaking from experience, I feel like vouches mean very little in the scheme of things.

The most trustworthy individuals in the community earn it through time and site wide involvement, the market is just a small portion of this.

 

[ColemanRay]

in general, trust is a rare thing to have in another person... I always get really nervous doing trades

 

[sith kid]

in general, trust is a rare thing to have in another person... I always get really nervous doing trades

Adding to what I said earlier, you can generally trust that somebody with multiple trades up to a certaim value will not abuse your trust up to this level. For example, if you see that somebody has multiple vouches for $50 trades, then you can feel comfortable ttrustimg this individual with $50. Anything more is sailing into the unknown.

Frankly, my belief is that there are people who have a moral compass which prevents them from scamming and then a lot of those who are just looking for the right opportunity. So in any case, tread with cautiom, especially in black markets.

 

[RyanJ]

A person can change at any moment though. The person with 20 vouches of $50 value can have a really bad day, lose funds, etc. From there they can scam their next high value trade and say the hell with it.

 

[Micronical]

It's gunna happen anywhere, every community comes with its scammers and members with bad intentions. It's just too easy for people to make a new account, and repeat the process. Sythe need to do more to prevent it.

 

[sith kid]

A person can change at any moment though. The person with 20 vouches of $50 value can have a really bad day, lose funds, etc. From there they can scam their next high value trade and say the hell with it.

Right, but you can be fairly certain he won't scam on a trade of $50.. whereas you cannot say so for a newcomer.

 

[RyanJ]

Right, but you can be fairly certain he won't scam on a trade of $50.. whereas you cannot say so for a newcomer.

Yeah of course. You would definitely be more inclined to do a trade with the one with vouches rather than a newcomer, however just because a user has 20 vouches doesn't guarantee your safety in a trade. The same goes for people with ranks from donating.

 

[sith kid]

Naturally, vouches are just there for you to help make a decision whether or not to trust an individual. Use your gut as a rule of thumb. Well I have and I have had no real issues since signing up here at Sythe.

 

Yeah of course. You would definitely be more inclined to do a trade with the one with vouches rather than a newcomer, however just because a user has 20 vouches doesn't guarantee your safety in a trade. The same goes for people with ranks from donating.

On a related note, I find that people who go out of their way to add to thread titles and point out that they're "trusted", "donor" and so on are less trustworthy than someone who has less vouches. It's comes across as if they feel they have to fake their way into seeming more trustworthy to do business. Especially those who say they're a donor in their thread title because they donated 5$.

In comparison the traders who I would say are more trustworthy just pick a simple thread title, simple layout and let the user make the decision as to how trusted they are. Fancy thread titles aren't really needed to succeed despite common belief.

I also view donors as more likely to scam-quit when they've got a fair amount of vouches behind them. If I were to leave Sythe i'd not have 'wasted' investments in the site - If I had 50$ donor then I'd effectively be losing 50$ by leaving. I can see why some people would scam-quit in that situation.

 

[Alch]

It's gunna happen anywhere, every community comes with its scammers and members with bad intentions. It's just too easy for people to make a new account, and repeat the process. Sythe need to do more to prevent it.

Any suggestions?

 

[Krillex]

it happens its better you pay a service( someone with alot vouches) to train your account ( you create the acc) it might be a bit more expensive but safer

This ^

I am involved in the account market, and I've had to recover an account before on Powerbot due to chargebacks. Even without setting an email on the account, or having any JAG/Authenticator, just the IP and creation password was enough for me to get the account back. I recommend that you just buy from someone like Farcast, or ask for an account creation.

 

[Add My Msn]

Sorry for your loss but using an OMM will not stop the seller from recovering the account. Just make sure in the future you buy from extremely trusted members.

 

[Raydabae]

Like 2 years ago on a forum I forgot the name of I think it was *********? Same shit happened to me

 

[Dream bot]

Like 2 years ago on a forum I forgot the name of I think it was *********? Same shit happened to me

Are you still registered on that website?

 

[Raydabae]

Are you still registered on that website?

That website got taken down by Jagex themselves lol guess which one it was

 

[Dream bot]

That website got taken down by Jagex themselves lol guess which one it was

Are you referring to a private server? If so, its still up lol.

 

[dip n oxys]

Theres scammers everywhere