Satanism vs. Christianity

[WhereIsTheGod]

Hmm..
Your bias is so overpowering that it's suffocating me..
Read the posts before you go slinging propaganda.

-You complain about rape? What about your "If it feels good, DO IT!"

-You cite intolerance? Hmm.. What about your sig? "~White, Atheist & Proud!~"

You should learn to be more objective before you burst into a room with your opinions falling out of your ass.

Attack his argument, not him. His points still stand.

 

[00 0wn 00]

ROFL, ok do you see a temple where all those sad depressed people go and worship the devil? no they suicide and sacrefice themselves, they cut there wrists, dress up with as much black as possible, i dont see how thats a religion, ?? is that going any good to them no?

do you see schools with people who beleive in satan only?
Do you see people who advertise satanism?
do you see people worship the devil yourself with your eyes?
NO YOU DONT, beleiving in the devil is what little immature kids do, who have no life or think they're cool and beleiving in god is nerdish.

Actually, there is a church of satan.

And since when do people need to make schools around/advertise a religion for it to be a religion?

Congratulations. You're mediocre.

 

[Wendy]

Attack his argument, not him. His points still stand.

No, actually his personal hypocrisy defeats his own argument. I didn't have to lift a finger.

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

No, actually his personal hypocrisy defeats his own argument. I didn't have to lift a finger.

ad hominem:
1. appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason.
2. attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.

The fact that there is something objectionable about the man does not make his argument any less credible. It does however, make you less credible because you argue with fallacy.

His argument stands.

 

[Wendy]

You shouldn't google your words..
Don't quote the dictionary at me. You haven't made a single beneficial comment or point in this discussion.

His argument wasn't even an argument.. more like a rant.

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

You shouldn't google your words..
Don't quote the dictionary at me. You haven't made a single beneficial comment or point in this discussion.

His argument wasn't even an argument.. more like a rant.

If your idea of refuting an argument is attacking the person, and then claiming that the argument wasn't really an argument, then what points are there to be made?

If you'll only see the viewpoints from people who you decide are acceptable, then there's no point to having a discussion.

 

[Wendy]

If your idea of refuting an argument is attacking the person, and then claiming that the argument wasn't really an argument, then what points are there to be made?

If you'll only see the viewpoints from people who you decide are acceptable, then there's no point to having a discussion.

By your own logic, you should leave.

lol satanism.......

anyways cruel is teh k00lest

You can leave too, this isn't the spam forum.

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

By your own logic, you should leave.



You can leave too, this isn't the spam forum.

The difference between me dismissing your response, and you dismissing the original:

rape, murder, violence, genocide, infanticide, homophobia, sexism, intollerance of other religious groups, "witch"-burning, animal sacrifice, etc.

is that my basis involves logic.

Otherwise, everything that he ever said would be a lie.
(And there is no liar but Satan.)

 

[Wendy]

The difference between me dismissing your response, and you dismissing the original:

is that my basis involves logic.

Otherwise, everything that he ever said would be a lie.
(And there is no liar but Satan.)

-.-..

Let me put this as politely as I can..

"You're not doing it right."

That isn't logic.. You're just... talking..
Pretending to know what you're talking about won't get you very far.

Refer back to my response.

 

[Cruel__Machine]

I've taken the opportunity to make a more elaborate version of the Nine Satanic Statements, to avoid confusion and to kill off any possible ignorant who thinks Anton LaVey's version of Satanism is about perversity and evil.

It only confirmed perversion... and possibly evil. But I don't find it very relevant, I'm trying to dispute the logical flaws.
And ignorant is an adjective, not a noun, fyi.

Anton LaVey's code of Satanism is NOT about worshipping the Devil or Satan - it's about worshipping yourself. Your body is a holy temple, and you reject the hypocrisy of religions. In the Satanic plea, you may NOT harm children, infants or innocent humans - you may only kill in defence or for survival.

Your body is a temple? Where is that coming from?
And they may not worship Satan, but they follow everything they think he stands for... so it's not very different.
And speaking of religious hypocrisy, what about your next statement? Why can you not harm innocent people/children? Personally, I'm fairly curious about the insides of infants' bodies. What's wrong with performing some kind of vivisection on a live infant to indulge in my curiosities, as I should be able to under the nine satanic statements?

4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
Another simple one, maybe you're all familiar with, "Do unto those as you'd wish them to do unto you", this is pretty much the opposite, respect those who respect you and have proven to be worthy of one's respect.

Why respect anyone? Doesn't make sense... what do they have to do with you? Unless you're referring to a self-deceitful pipe dream hope of friendly relations to be received in return by such actions. But of course, Satanism is against such things. Or wait... I'm confused.

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
Someone gets in your way, attacks you whatever... Annihilate them in return. A code of ethics that most people tend to follow when provoked. (Even Christians)

Most people follow? Don't make things up.
Countless people agree that "eye for an eye" doesn't solve anything, but many probably still follow it. I wouldn't say it was evident that most people do, however.

Through self-deception humans seem to have forgotten that we are indeed just animals...

No, it's through a belief in God and the Bible (where it says man is to have dominion over animals). I certainly hope you agree that not all believers of such came to their conclusion through self-deceit.

Very true statement, only the human animal is capable of waging war, mass murder and such, animals only kill for survival but we are somewhat sadistic in killing.

Yes, add that to the list of the practically infinite number of things humans can do that animals cannot.

8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

Wrath is one of the seven deadly sins. It is synonymous with severe hatred, yet Satan also supports kindness to those that deserve it. Essentially making Satan only a supporter of things conditionally convenient.
Would Satan then be a supporter of irrational hatred of all black people (as opposed to my rational hatred of them )? And do not such things lead to murder? And did you not say Satanism was against the murder of innocence? Try not to self-indulge in your lying, even if just for a minute or two... I'd like to actually understand this instead of getting mislead by false representation :/

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
We all know this last statement is true, without the threat of brimstone and eternal damnation, the Church would be a cult instead of a world-wide religion.

Wait... this is referring to the Christian "church"? How is that even relevant? The 10 commandments do truly look divine compared to this unorganized nonsense.

Funny how Christianity has a history of rape, murder, violence, genocide, infanticide, homophobia, sexism, intollerance of other religious groups, "witch"-burning, animal sacrifice, etc. Hell, even Adolf Hitler was a Christian, and he is responsible for the murder of 5 million jews, 250.000+ soldiers, and 6 million humans of other ethnic origins than white.

Christians murder, so therefore Christianity condones murder.

My conclusion is brief:

 

[waff3n]

Oh, you didn't get the memo?
This board is now no different than the spam board. -_-
Not exaggerating.

And Satanism is no more about sacrificing children than Islam is about car bombing, just fyi.

Go ahead and call my thread spam :O

Posted the 9 satanic sins The 7 death sins, and The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth in the first post.

 

[Cruel__Machine]

Go ahead and call my thread spam :O

Posted the 9 satanic sins The 7 death sins, and The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth in the first post.

I wouldn't call the thread spam, just stupid.
But it's the majority of the posts in the thread that are spam in the context of this being a board for intelligent discussion.

 

[waff3n]

Well to get back on topic...

the "an eye for an eye" theory has never solvede anything cause the counter part will most likely retaliate (<--spelling) which makes it more effective to destroy your oppenent right away instead of waiting for his revenge.

Personal jesus, you should really try to agree with yourself before posting

Even if you hate black people for instance(no offense) you may not go kill every black person you see, even if you find it funny or satisfying, the satanic statements contadict eachother just like the 10 commandments does.

 

[Cruel__Machine]

the satanic statements contadict eachother just like the 10 commandments does.

You can't just state things like that and not give an example.

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

You can't just state things like that and not give an example.

maybe he's saying that the ten commandments don't contradict.

 

[benny8691]

Yes^^^ but i believe a bit of everything from all religions because... if u just believe one...to me, doesnt make sense

 

[dadybo]

(Btw, ironic that you say that Muslims don't endorse such behavior, when we have a thread discussing their justice system).

I get the idea that you have a shoe so far up your ass that your too dumb to know that your actually judging a WHOLE religion, the sharia law your talking about has been altered by the countries using it for their own good. But by complaining on every single thread just to show off that your athiest or whatever is complete and utter retardation. Athiests want to think outside the box, when all your doing is refusing any scientific proof that doesnt support your "NO GOD" theories. Your as intellegent as a potatoe.

Ironic indeed.

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

I get the idea that you have a shoe so far up your ass that your too dumb to know that your actually judging a WHOLE religion, the sharia law your talking about has been altered by the countries using it for their own good. But by complaining on every single thread just to show off that your athiest or whatever is complete and utter retardation. Athiests want to think outside the box, when all your doing is refusing any scientific proof that doesnt support your "NO GOD" theories. Your as intellegent as a potatoe.

Ironic indeed.

That was not the point of my post, it was just something I noted as being ironic...
Don't group me with other atheists, and what they believe. I believe what I believe, for whatever reasons I may have.

Actually, I don't see my post from scrolling down on this page. If your agenda is to address that my posts are often influenced by my beliefs, you have done so. Stay on topic.
(Unless my original post was offtopic. It may have been, but since you chose to take the afterthought of it, I'll have to look for it again to find out.)

 

[dadybo]

That was not the point of my post, it was just something I noted as being ironic...
Don't group me with other atheists, and what they believe. I believe what I believe, for whatever reasons I may have.

Actually, I don't see my post from scrolling down on this page. If your agenda is to address that my posts are often influenced by my beliefs, you have done so. Stay on topic.

I'ts on the first page...Your clearly being biased and a hater.

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

Worshipping the biblical Satan is still Christianity - you're following the same bible.

Except you interpret it differently.

Aside from the "don't kill, don't lie, don't steal" part of the ten commandments, very little is practical.

(Btw, ironic that you say that Muslims don't endorse such behavior, when we have a thread discussing their justice system).

You fail to see the main point of my post. You're as bad as those atheists who promote their atheism on every single post.

Welcome to the club! ^^