"safing" eating while pking

[strangerdanger696]

well im often called a "safer" even though i am NOT a pker and mostly get jumped on when im trying to do something in wildy, people talk shit about so called "safers" (people who eat while still at a reasonably not 1-2 hittable hp) i think this is fucking ridiculous even for the people who go out for sole purpose of pking. If you are the better fighter your food will last longer and you will come out on top, if your a fucking fail you will lose to a so called "safer". Granted im not a pker in general but im always bombarded anytime i gotta do anything in wildy, it simply seems stupid to not eat when needed . Im basically asking why the fuck so many people think so called "safing"/eating food is considered cheap ?! If your better than someone your food will last longer, the end . Thats my opinion, id like to hear other peoples opinions on the matter so please chime in. Like i said im not a pker or anything and im just defending myself and im not trying to start an argument or anything either so trolls go elsewhere .

Don't bother listening to what others think they don't make the rules for how you pk you do. and most people who say stop safing are trying to annoy you so you will be busy typing instead of healing etc. so they can get a quick ko.

 

[Zerkerfist]

I agree with you. I was used to PK'ing back in the pre 2006 era, and when I first came back to RS last summer, I had no idea what the hell safing even was. Every time I got in a fight in the wilderness, people were accusing me of "safing." Over time I started to understand it a little better and why it's such a big deal nowadays..

Back in the "old days," nobody even gave a shit about safing because people were a lot more honourable. It was very common to actually stay to the death when engaging in a good fight, and it was common to eat whenever the hell you wanted to, as PK'ing was based less on KO's and more on strategy and outlasting your opponent. A person could safe all they wanted, but they would be much more likely to run out of food first and subsequently be defeated.

Nowadays with all these spec weapons, KO'ing is extremely easy and requires very little skill, in my opinion. Along with all the new weapons, armours, and updates to the wilderness, came a whole new generation of PK'ers and rules associated with PVP. Things like PJ'ing became much more common, "rushing" was born and accepted as a new style of PK'ing (when in reality it's actually very pathetic), and kills are now obtained by getting a lucky spec off and dealing out a ridiculously high amount of damage in mere seconds so that your opponent cannot teleport or run. Because of this, "safing" is now considered dishonourable (ironic, considering the lack of honour in PK'ing anyways these days), as it makes it more difficult for your opponent to be able to kill you with a lucky spec. So basically, when somebody is getting mad at you for safing, they are getting mad at you because you are not allowing your HP to drop down low enough that they can kill you.

I can understand why safing is annoying, and I've even been on the other side of it where I get pissed off at somebody for constantly safing and making it hard to get a KO. But I still think when it comes down to it, the concept of "safing" is a complete load of shit... it's quite ridiculous to expect your opponent to allow their hitpoints to drop low enough to a level that is considered "acceptable" when you think about it. At least in my opinion.

 

[TheZerker]

Stop with the wall of text.

Sounds like you are just a phaggot who sits in wildy with basic gear who wants someone to risk against him. Either take your gear off and spectate or come to fight.

Very well said.

 

[PrayerKid]

It's mostly an edgeville term. Edgeville pking is for koing. If both parties eat to full then no one dies and it's just a waste.
Why would anyone call you a safer if you are in the wildy and aren't in fight gear or fighting?

now that you say that i actually understand that word more because when you'r in a brid fight even in edge or anywhere but there and your just "Fighting" not "Pking" i guess people don't really care about "Safing" as much

But @ the OP i do agree with what your saying but like someone else said when people are out of food, they tele..soo...you kind of have to let them know to stop eating so much, and i guess give both of the players a better chance of a kill

 

[Delta Squad]

safers is a term people call someone who keeps his HP above the other person maxium hit, in an attempt to keep from getting k0ed.

most people who get mad at safers are ones who do not know how to combo correctly.

when i used to pk i safed, as the point of pking is to kill people any means possible, so why let your hp stay low so you can get k0ed easily?

not safing is like putting 5 bullets in a six shooter, and hoping to get that 1 empty slot, anyone who hates safers should just l2combo better.

inb4flamedbythel33tpk3rs

 

[Nagato Of the Rinnegan]

safing means eating at high hit points, it ruins the fun in pking tbh

 

[·Sai·]

Safing is what everyone does while pking ..everyone has done it once or more they just say it cus they usually losing in 1on1 match


Sai,

 

[nodnarbusn]

Stop with the wall of text.

Sounds like you are just a phaggot who sits in wildy with basic gear who wants someone to risk against him. Either take your gear off and spectate or come to fight.

You need to quit backseat modding and calling people names you homophobe, i said explicitly that im not in wildy for pking, im not spectating fights or anything im usually questing killing drags or going to chaos tunnels. You should read before making such arrogant statements .

 

[BlackMamba]

You need to quit backseat modding and calling people names you homophobe, i said explicitly that im not in wildy for pking, im not spectating fights or anything im usually questing killing drags or going to chaos tunnels. You should read before making such arrogant statements .

I don't see how he's backseat modding? and I do agree with him the wall of text does get quite irritating to read but also I do believe you said this "im not trying to start an argument" So don't flame if you're not trying to start an argument.

Anyways, OT - Safing is quite annoying to me as I have a zerker that I pk on quite a bit and to me you should be fine sitting at about 1/2 - 3/4 hp but if you eat over 3/4 it just seems like safing and if you pk a lot you should know about different eating combos to regain a lot of hp in a short amount of time. (Rocktail - brew ect.)

Also, I see lots of people complaining about overpowered special weapons and armour which I do agree it's a little stupid but you have to remember they've also added new ways to heal and counter act the cheap weapons (Not all but some) like rocktails that heal more hp and allow you to go over max health, soulsplit which allows you to heal while doing damage ect.

 

The big issue with safers is they really have no intention of winning the fight as they are either too busy eating or running away. Its a waste of time, thats why it gets up everyone's noses.

 

[Kabal]

You need to quit backseat modding and calling people names you homophobe, i said explicitly that im not in wildy for pking, im not spectating fights or anything im usually questing killing drags or going to chaos tunnels. You should read before making such arrogant statements .

Never back seat modded. And you ARE a phaggot for spewing out walls of text. But here, let me break down those walls for you and take a real attempt at deciphering wtf it is you have written.

If your better than someone your food will last longer, the end.

Sometimes yes, sometimes the random hit generator that jagex uses determines who does more damage. Either way, so what? Once your food is gone in edgeville you run or tele and both parties just wasted supplies. Edegville is for koing, not for draining someone of their food till death like old skool mage bank used to be.

well this is all great input, but like i said im never out there for pk and i usually get pjed or something

You realise PJ means pile jumped? As in YOU JUST PKED someone and now someone is trying to pk you.

i'm usually wearing black dhide and am NEVER skulled so theres never been loot in question yet i STILL get atked AND called a "safer".

Wtf are you doing in black d hide? I highly doubt you are out there skilling or questing like you claim. And even if you did have a reasonable explanation for being there (such as dragon killing) you would still have to have engaged the person back in a fight for anyone to call you a safer.

And tbh i dont see how it "takes the fun out of pking" if you have the same option to so called "safe" eat and test it out as an endurance thing

Already answered this, it's pointless to sit in edgeville with full hp bars draining each others supplies.

WHEN i win a fight

So now you admit you are in the wildy looking for a fight?

I could understand so called safing being an issue dming..

Ok you must just be fucking retarded. Dming is the only time when safing would be acceptable since running or teleing is not an option and kos don't matter.

 

[Diviine]

Unless you're eating at 600-700+ then you're not safing (assuming you're maxed combat).

It depends though on what the opponent is using. If hes got a gs/xbow/cmaul or any high hitting weapons, then eating above mid health is fine. Even then, you can get raped with a well timed ags veng combo.

Even though I have a decent bank, i still run if i run out of food since the person im fighting would, and im just damn lazy to re gear up if i die.

 

[yujee]

if they can k0 you or potentially get to down to really low hp its not safing imo