Rob White dice scammed $144

[kc]

@Rob White

Making a separate thread for this.

I posted here https://www.sythe.org/threads/2607931/official-donor-lounge-dice-thread/page-29#post-24287106 for a $144 (BTC) dice. I beat him, he asked for a DoN, I said no. So I pmed him telling to him to meet me and trade over the 07... he did not, no matter what he claims.

Link of PM convo (blacked out my RSN): https://i.gyazo.com/0209a9e42c40f8f2516ecd357b8f4419.png

He claims he traded me but he didn't. I saw him and followed him up to the Lumby bank, traded him. He accepted and as soon as the first trade window popped up he logged.

Please don't let him get away with this. There are a number of people saying he scammed as well.

 

@Rob White post your proof of payment

 

[kc]

I can let this go if he decides to pay.

@Rob White

 

[Rob White]

@Rob White post your proof of payment

I don't know how I'm suppose to prove I paid him. Honestly sad that he's trying to do this.

 

[kc]

I haven't got anything else to say. What motive would I have for doing this?

All this for just $144...?

 

[Rob White]

I haven't got anything else to say. What motive would I have for doing this?

All this for just $144...?

I've been dicing for almost 3 months now and I've never had any issues.

 

The burden of proof is on the creditor to prove a debt exists.

The burden of proof is on the debtor to prove that the debt has been discharged (paid off).

 

[Rob White]

The burden of proof is on the creditor to prove a debt exists.

The burden of proof is on the debtor to prove that the debt has been discharged (paid off).

I have no proof. I've diced over 1000$ and never have had this issue. Where is his proof that I didn't pay him?

 

I have no proof. I've diced over 1000$ and never have had this issue. Where is his proof that I didn't pay him?

The law never asks a person to prove a negative because this is extremely difficult if not generally impossible.

 

[Rob White]

The law never asks a person to prove a negative because this is extremely difficult if not generally impossible.

The law requires proof. This report is based 100% on accusations. He's trying to gain another 120m from me which won't happen.

 

The law requires proof. This report is based 100% on accusations. He's trying to gain another 120m from me which won't happen.

The proof that a debt exists has been made out.

 

[Rob White]

The proof that a debt exists has been made out.

Where is the proof that a debt exists?

 

Where is the proof that a debt exists?

In the donor dice thread.

 

[Rob White]

In the donor dice thread.

Thats proof he won the roll, not proof a debt exists.

Debt: "the state of owing money"

I don't owe him anything.

 

Thats proof he won the roll, not proof a debt exists.

Debt: "the state of owing money"

I don't owe him anything.

You made a contract for a private dicing wager in that thread. You lost said wager. The debt arises out of that contract.

 

[Rob White]

You made a contract for a private dicing wager in that thread. You lost said wager. The debt arises out of that contract.

Right, But there is no proof of "debt". Think about what you're saying. On the basis of your belief of "debt". I could claim someone hasn't paid me anytime I win a bet.

 

Right, But there is no proof of "debt". Think about what you're saying. On the basis of your belief of "debt". I could claim someone hasn't paid me anytime I win a bet.

As I said before, it is completely ordinary in law (black letter) that the creditor bears the burden to prove a debt exists and the debtor bears the burden to prove it has been discharged.

You could claim someone hasn't paid your debt, at which point we would turn around to that person and ask for proof of payment whereupon it is their burden to show they paid.

In future take a video.

 

[Rob White]

As I said before, it is completely ordinary in law (black letter) that the creditor bears the burden to prove a debt exists and the debtor bears the burden to prove it has been discharged.

You could claim someone hasn't paid your debt, at which point we would turn around to that person and ask for proof of payment whereupon it is their burden to show they paid.

In future take a video.

I take a video everytime I win a bet to ensure as the winner I get paid. This same situation happened to me. I won a dice bet and a user claimed he paid me, I had it on video...Bam he got banned. Thats my point. I had proof. There is no concrete proof here.

Heres the report. Take a look yourself.

Elimere Dice scamming 25m

 

I take a video everytime I win a bet to ensure as the winner I get paid. This same situation happened to me. I won a dice bet and a user claimed he paid me, I had it on video...Bam he got banned. Thats my point. I had proof. There is no concrete proof here.

Heres the report. Take a look yourself.

Elimere Dice scamming 25m

Again there is proof that a debt exists. There's no proof that it has been paid. I'm not going to bother arguing this further with you.

 

[Rob White]

Again there is proof that a debt exists. There's no proof that it has been paid. I'm not going to bother arguing this further with you.

I'm not paying him another 120M if you thats what you're saying.

No where in the rules does it say I have to record every time I pay someone out.

You're valuing his word over mine, probably because he's a 100$ donator.