RiD vs Simba

[brandonlol]

I have recently become a HUGE fan of both of these, i run both for over 5-8 hours a day, simba on 6 accounts distributed equally, RiD only on my main. RiD is not close to as expensive as people think, but i won't take the time now to explain what i mean, i don't truly want RiD bots to become overly popular anyway. Simba is completely free, not quite as user friendly (the community IS as user friendly, the client and scripts are not. Just to keep that straight).

In another thread, simba and rid representatives somewhat talked about why they thought their site was better, and i felt this is an argument worth having. While i feel both are great, and it should be a friendly competition between the two, I much rather either than rsbots, rsbuddy, etc.

My suggestion would be Simba for any accounts that aren't your main, RiD for your main.


Here are some strengths and weaknesses for me:

Simba -​

• Multiple accounts much more accessible and convenient to use
  [*]Customizing scripts is possible
  [*]Open source
  [*]Script variety
  [*]Offers msi, for amateurs, which is multiple script integration.
  [*]It allows you to not only just input information and bot like RiD, rsbuddy, and rsbots but set it to rotate between accounts so you won't suicide if you leave it all day, it will bot a given number of minutes per account making your chances of getting banned much safer. This is my favorite feature.
• Gold farming possible (in my opinion, bad thing)
• Less noob-friendly client than RID
  [*]Takes a lot more knowledge about basic scripting to get full use out of it than any other client (aside from scar, which is virtually unused now)
  [*]Solves less randoms as of right now than RID
  [*]Currently resurrecting/rescripting color scripts since it used some reflection, RID didn't use any reflection and was not set back one bit.

Robotz In Disguise -​

• The safest way to bot now and it has been since it's release, i would be willing to bet it always will be.
  [*](Virtually) Perfect scripts.
  [*] Almost NEVER goes offline for more than a few hours, regardless of what updates runescape comes out with.
  [*]Offers the best autotalker (responder) runescape has ever seen, this is truly artificial intelligence. A robot you downloaded.
  [*]Every bot is completely unique, no two bots are exactly the same, meaning even if you and your friend run's the same script with the same setting they won't be exactly the same.
  
• Large scale gold farming impossible (in my opinion, good thing)
  [*] Very limited script selection
  [*] Unable to solve ~45% of all randoms
  [*] Requires virtual box OR allowing it to use your mouse
  [*] Using on multiple accounts could get pricey/complicated
  [*] Under constant DDOS attacks as of late, hopefully will end soon.

Both -​

• 
  [*] Much nicer, more helpful, all around better communities than rsbuddy, rsbots, epicbot, etc. Probably due to the lack of "noobs" using these bots as opposed to rsbuddy, rsbots, etc.
  [*] Don't use runescapes game code, therefore don't attempt to fight jagex on jagex's turf so to speak.
  [*] Much less convenient for ruining runescape via gold farming and such
  [*] Are most-likely the future of botting, looking forward.
  [*] Much harder to create, therefor much weaker at completing randoms and doing complex tasks than reflection and injection bots were.

I really do believe these clients are the future of botting, and while I'm glad the majority of bots have been defeated and i predict will never return with half the impact they previously had, these bots provie a short-term fix for the "grind" of this game while jagex is working on the long-term fix.

This thread is to discuss your preference between the two, argue which is better, and so forth.

 

[tomcellwheel]

I think this is the most well-made, and (though I've only been able to skim through thus far) most factual thread about both bots.

Props to you sir.

I'm a mod at RiD, so of course I'd be a bit biased, as I've not used Simba personally. However, I don't disagree with anything you've said. RiD's mission is to allow everyone's mains be able to be bot without worry of a ban.

Many people say our bots are expensive, but they are only 8 cents an hour. Even the poorest kid can afford that.

Overall, I encourage everyone to try out both bots and see for themselves what they like. RiD may take a bit of reading, but the rewards are well worth it. If you need any help, you can find me in the chatbox

Happy botting to all,
Tom

Edit: and yes, the DDOS should *hopefully* be completely over soon. Its slowing down :3

 

[M_A_I_N_FTW]

I agree what you said, the only thing I have to say is that to those who think simba is easily detectable. Scripts posted on SRL probably have same amount of bans as RID has since 2009. Those who makes private script are almost 100% undetected.

In my opinion, what determines a bot's bannability is :
30% Humanlike
30% Hours botted
40% Amount of people used.

For example:
1) Some people where able to use auto clickers like axife mouse recorder to cursing and teleport (alching is a different story) and got 99 magic without banned.
2) There were couple great fletching scripts on srl where some people where able to get 99 fletching in a week, and ended up with a temp 14 day ban ( because its a very human like script), but some other people were able to do it over a month and got nothing happened to them.
3) The reason why Idung gets loads of people banned (Although its still less than 20% of its total user) is because soo many people uses it, if it were only to spread across 100 people. I'd bet theres less than 5 people that would've gotten banned from it.


Conclusion, srl and rid have similar safty, the only factor that might bring srl's safty down is scripts that are made by begginers. Contrast to RID where every single of their script is professionally handled.

But just remember, those who create shitty scripts in the beginning will be come great scripts in the future.

 

[Adverse]

In my opinion, RiD is how botting should be.

 

[brandonlol]

I think this is the most well-made, and (though I've only been able to skim through thus far) most factual thread about both bots.

Props to you sir.

I'm a mod at RiD, so of course I'd be a bit biased, as I've not used Simba personally. However, I don't disagree with anything you've said. RiD's mission is to allow everyone's mains be able to be bot without worry of a ban.

Many people say our bots are expensive, but they are only 8 cents an hour. Even the poorest kid can afford that.

Overall, I encourage everyone to try out both bots and see for themselves what they like. RiD may take a bit of reading, but the rewards are well worth it. If you need any help, you can find me in the chatbox

Happy botting to all,
Tom

Edit: and yes, the DDOS should *hopefully* be completely over soon. Its slowing down :3

Sythe is going crazy closing threads for advertising constantly atm, so i didn't want to get into the RiD bot's pricing, but i agree with you on what you said. It's completely misconceived by people who haven't USED RiD that it's expensive because it's pay by the hour, but to anyone with a half-decent main. . 8 cents per hour for virtually no chance of being banned? I'd be willing to pay much more, honestly.

People also don't necessarily have to choose one or the other, I don't, I bot a couple accounts on simba (mostly to learn simba better, until i can master scripting i won't use my main on anything besides RiD), but my main is entirely legit/botted via RiD.

Your advice is the best i could ever offer anyone on virtually any situation really, don't rely on reviews you read on some forum, try both and decide for yourself. RiD offers you 6 credits as a sort of trial to their bot, there's no reason NOT to try them.

 

[inpherus]

I truely believe that with the knowledge and ability to make scripts, Simba is the better bot.

However, for amateurs who are just looking to get their mains up, RiD is the way to go.


That's the thing with Simba though, it is not noob-friendly, this can be good or bad, however with the right scripters Simba may be better than RiD (since their is a lot of potential).

 

[brandonlol]

I truely believe that with the knowledge and ability to make scripts, Simba is the better bot.

However, for amateurs who are just looking to get their mains up, RiD is the way to go.


That's the thing with Simba though, it is not noob-friendly, this can be good or bad, however with the right scripters Simba may be better than RiD (since their is a lot of potential).

Agree, for the most part. Basically, for the skills RiD has a bot for, it's a argument of who is a better scripter the user or RiD himself. If you can script better than he can, clearly you can make a better bot using simba. If not, using his would be better. Simba has much more versatility, but for casual botting on your main alone, RiD is cheap and would save so much time (since you won't have to create a bot) to just use for what you need.

Both great bots, no?

 

[bambino_91]

i prefer simba tbh
anything that has time limit on it is not good for me


btw what scripts u use on simba?

 

[brandonlol]

i prefer simba tbh
anything that has time limit on it is not good for me


btw what scripts u use on simba?

When i first started using simba i used msi to rotate between 3 coal miners and 3 willow choppers (they were working their way to 60 wc for yews) over the course of each day

msi, as you may already know, would allow me to set it up and it would log in to the first one, mine coal for say. . 5 hours, then log in the second account and do the same, and go in that cycle. Allowing me to have no account logged in for inhuman hours, while basically botting 24 hours a day.

right now im learning to script so i can script my own, until then i'll only be using msi.

 

[sittin_low_287]

i know pn the simba site you cant buy scripts but are there any other site that sell scripts?
ive started to learn to script but its going to take me a long time before can make some nice scripts for myself

 

[Trent!]

The DDoS attack is currently over for the time being. Bots should be running at full speed for now

 

[beethirteen]

Didnt even know what Simba was until RSBuddy and RSbots.net got raped!

 

[brandonlol]

The DDoS attack is currently over for the time being. Bots should be running at full speed for now

Thank god. Some rival botsites need to grow up.

 

[M_A_I_N_FTW]

I can assure you its not simba responsible for those ddos, probably either jagex or other bots ( who aren't trying to fix their bot).

 

[awesomem8]

is there a way to get 95 pray using any working bot for turm??

 

[M_A_I_N_FTW]

which method? altar or bone thinggie?

 

[weequ]

is there a way to get 95 pray using any working bot for turm??

I think Simba and RiD both has a working pest control script. Simba is free though.

 

[KerokeroCola]

I agree what you said, the only thing I have to say is that to those who think simba is easily detectable. Scripts posted on SRL probably have same amount of bans as RID has since 2009. Those who makes private script are almost 100% undetected.

In my opinion, what determines a bot's bannability is :
30% Humanlike
30% Hours botted
40% Amount of people used.

For example:
1) Some people where able to use auto clickers like axife mouse recorder to cursing and teleport (alching is a different story) and got 99 magic without banned.
2) There were couple great fletching scripts on srl where some people where able to get 99 fletching in a week, and ended up with a temp 14 day ban ( because its a very human like script), but some other people were able to do it over a month and got nothing happened to them.
3) The reason why Idung gets loads of people banned (Although its still less than 20% of its total user) is because soo many people uses it, if it were only to spread across 100 people. I'd bet theres less than 5 people that would've gotten banned from it. They're not dumb, and they know that the p2p bots are revenue-generating customers just as much as legitimate players are, so they would rather not ban if they can get away with it. Only when they feel a particular bot is decreasing legitimate customer sales will they start to ban. Basically, if you're using an unknown script, nobody is complaining about you, and even if Jagex found you botting they would probably leave you alone to continue paying their membership.


Conclusion, srl and rid have similar safty, the only factor that might bring srl's safty down is scripts that are made by begginers. Contrast to RID where every single of their script is professionally handled.

But just remember, those who create shitty scripts in the beginning will be come great scripts in the future.

I've found that the "safety" of a bot depends basically on how much Jagex wants to ban it more than anything. My breakdown is this:

90% if Jagex wants to do anything about it (i.e., how much their customers "want" you banned)
5% the human-ness and antiban to bypass their detection software
4% the # of people who use it
1% the amount of time spent per day

I agree that the more people who use the bot, the riskier it is. The amount of bans for a bot increases exponentially as more people get banned, simply because Jagex gets more and more cases to study and add to their detection software. However, the major difference between our opinions is that I strongly feel that Jagex is a lot smarter than they seem. As soon as they decide they want to ban bots rather than just cripple the ability to bot, they'll just turn their detection software in the right direction.

I truely believe that with the knowledge and ability to make scripts, Simba is the better bot.

However, for amateurs who are just looking to get their mains up, RiD is the way to go.


That's the thing with Simba though, it is not noob-friendly, this can be good or bad, however with the right scripters Simba may be better than RiD (since their is a lot of potential).

If you ever saw RSBuddy's forums, you'd probably agree with me that being noob-friendly has many downsides. Virtually every thread on their website was a disaster.

 

[Emperor Nero]

I've found that the "safety" of a bot depends basically on how much Jagex wants to ban it more than anything. My breakdown is this:

90% if Jagex wants to do anything about it (i.e., how much their customers "want" you banned)
5% the human-ness and antiban to bypass their detection software
4% the # of people who use it
1% the amount of time spent per day

I agree that the more people who use the bot, the riskier it is. The amount of bans for a bot increases exponentially as more people get banned, simply because Jagex gets more and more cases to study and add to their detection software. However, the major difference between our opinions is that I strongly feel that Jagex is a lot smarter than they seem. As soon as they decide they want to ban bots rather than just cripple the ability to bot, they'll just turn their detection software in the right direction.



If you ever saw RSBuddy's forums, you'd probably agree with me that being noob-friendly has many downsides. Virtually every thread on their website was a disaster.

Yeah, they're forums were terrible.

This was a neat comparison I wish you added some more/different points on RiD than those that most people cover. Thanks for doing this, I myself am thinking of moving to Simba and learning how to make my own scripts.

 

[YoHoJo]

Simba -
Less noob-friendly client than RID

Yeah sure, but it really takes about 5 minutes to learn how to set up a script, yea we may not have clearly labeled boxes and stuff for you to fill out but it just takes reading one tutorial to learn how and it's the same setup for almost every script.

Currently resurrecting/rescripting color scripts since it used some reflection, RID didn't use any reflection and was not set back one bit.

We had a good mix of color AND reflection scripts. Once reflection died so did the reflection ones, but all of our colors scripts were just fine, and we currently have a lot of great working color scripts as I type.

Robotz In Disguise -

The safest way to bot now and it has been since it's release, i would be willing to bet it always will be.

Simba is just as safe, if not safer that RiD. Our ban rate is like under 1%, we pretty much NEVER hear about bans from normal proper usage...

(Virtually) Perfect scripts.

Simba also has some virtually perfect scripts, depends on who scripted it and how much time they put in.

Almost NEVER goes offline for more than a few hours, regardless of what updates runescape comes out with.

We normally get updates done within a few hours, usually two days max.


Every bot is completely unique, no two bots are exactly the same, meaning even if you and your friend run's the same script with the same setting they won't be exactly the same.

Same with Simba, all of our scripts and functions have tons of built in randomness and uniqueness.


Requires virtual box OR allowing it to use your mouse

Making Simba HIGHLY BETTER for most people... you can run as many as you computer can handle and minimize them all. Who the hell wants to run a VM or let script control mouse, you need a good computer for VPS for that



Pretty accurate post overall, but I'm all for Simba here!
I think it's better/can be better in pretty much every aspect due to open source and the huge, amazing, talented community. Anything we need done can get done anyone can learn, join in, and help create ANYTHING! I've been Simba/Scar/SRL user since I was 12 and I'm almost 21 now! <3