Requiring Sythe PM's to be refunded.

So i've been actually looking up how to enable two factor on skype, it seems that you can only do so on a microsoft account... So if you have a skype only account and were forced to activate 2FA by sythe you would have to change your skype?!?!?

If you have a skype only account and link a microsoft account to it, 2FA is only enabled on the microsoft account not the skype login/password.... Making 2FA pretty useless.

Unless i'm missing something from all these microsoft forum threads???

 

Because not everyone wants to lose all the contacts they have is the reason why most people wouldn't consider making a new skype for 2FA, some people have thousands upon thousands of contacts for business related stuff.

 

So you're going to risk your customers getting scammed because you don't want to lose your precious contacts? I lost over 1,000 contacts when I switched Skypes, I can't imagine you having many more than that. Customers not getting scammed > ego points from having a lot of contacts.

 

If those customers actually need you they would've seen already you switched Skype and would've added your new one. I would rather provide secure transactions than providing alot of transactions.

 

Noone should be held accountable for someone's third party chat being hacked. Some hackers could easily setup fake scams knowing that a pm is not necessary now and they would still be forced to pay. I don't see how this helps anyone and it may bring more trouble than we have with the current system in place.
Should everyone 2fa? Yes everyone should, but they aren't required to and some people can't.

 

Are you implying it's hard to create a fake pm with inspect element? And why can some people not create a 2fa'd Skype?

 

Yeah that's true, most of us have done it

 

I already mentioned I would be switching over to a 2FA'd skype in a previous post, i'm not talking about myself, personally i've never been hacked on Skype nor do I know how skype hacking works and I doubt i've been targeted but wouldn't having a strong 20+ character password on Skype prevent a hack from happening?

 

No I believe DB leaks are the primary cause of hackings, not brute force entries. Not too sure, though.

 

You'd need to make a new microsoft account, 2factor it, then use it as your skype.

Mass skype messaging tools exist.

That "third party chat" is an extension of your sythe account. Your sythe account is merely a bridge for connection to which trades are completed. Not treating that "third party chat" as you would your sythe account is irresponsible and should hold some culpability when assessing blame to the parties involved.

Some "hackers" are impotent when you 2factor your skype account, eradicating the possibility you illustrate.

 

Actually i believe social engineering is the cause of most skype hackings. Skype support is pitiful.

 

A big user was hacked the other day and the hacker was very rude when I asked for a sythe pm, so obviously forum pms are the way to go.

 

Did you even read lol? If your Skype is 2fa'd he wouldn't be hacked on the first place...

 

You would have to effectively abandon your old Skype and only use the Microsoft account Skype that allows two-factor authentication.

There's a short Skype article on how to transfer your contacts from one Skype to another. That can be found here: https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA...er-contacts-from-one-skype-account-to-another

The market users would have to put forth an effort to inform their customers of the new two-factor authenticated Skype. This seems like a very small cost compared to a customer getting scammed by a "hacked Skype".

 

You can hack Skypes that have 2FA enabled. Harder but doable. You just need to socially engineer Skype support.

Why should a Sythe user be responsible for a third party chat client, it is unreasonable - there are multiple extraneous factors other than negligence that could lead to a third party chat account getting hacked. A Sythe user should be responsible for his Sythe account, it's as simple as that, if you use a third party client, then it's the responsibility of the traders to get a PM.

Before this rule, you would see people getting framed left and right using fake MSN conversations and it would just be a mess, now it's simple; you don't get a Sythe PM, it's your fault.

As to those saying you can fake Sythe PMs, what the fuck are you even talking about, you receive a PM, you look at it, who the fuck would look at a screenshot of a Sythe PM.

 

He was talking about it being easier to create fake scammer reports without a pm, that's why I said it was easy to create a screenie of a fake pm via inspect element.

 

Admins can verify the authenticity of PMs, or at least, some of them can - if it comes down to that, that's why it's not that big of a worry.

 

If you can't ask for a PM you don't deserve a refund. It is also the responsibility of the buyer to exhibit safe trading practices when conducting a trade.

 

What about people who are brand new to the forums and don't know safe trading practices?

 

That's my main point, when I was new I had no idea what a PM was.