Requesting TwC for user PVTEL

Hahanerd · Jan 6, 2017

Link to profile: PVTEL

It sounds kind of weird when typed out, but I talked to @Shin briefly about it.

Long story short:

PVTEL was selling 300M 07 GP to buyer (unknown Sythe user) for $350 BTC
In the midst of trade, he private messages me saying he is down to 50M because he was staking (note: he is "staking" the very same gold he is trying to sell, and whether or not he actually ever had the gold, is uncertain)
In a second PM, he tells me not to tell the buyer (who is not responding to my messages at this point anyway) that he is staking
He Skype messages me again and tells me that he is trying to buy gold and that he is only buying gold from GP sites in order to receive a vouch and profit "5 or 10 bucks"
Apparently, his payments or verification when trying to purchase gold fails
He goes on a mini-rant, and immediately logs out
Buyer has been unresponsive since he asked me to lower the fee
If you're an OMM or even a regular MM, this kind of behavior usually means that they are wanting to scam the other user but can't because they are in a conversation with an OMM and need an excuse to get out

Pardon me if my scam report looks odd - I rarely have to post scam reports, and this sort of behavior happens more times than you would think, but this case irritated me a lot more since he wasted my time at 4 am.

Group chat:

Original PM he sent me:

Hahanerd · Jan 6, 2017

@Shin

PVTEL · Jan 6, 2017

LOL everything I told you not to tell him. I contacted him via Skype and told him because I already thought it would sound sketchy. You're salty wtf LOL.

Here is my telling the customer himself to take the OMM.. my customer was doubting it because he did NOT want to pay fees.. Gyazo - 5da4d87ee7e4177290469c7f0b936608.png
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Here is my g2a payment being cancelled. Right after the time I lost my money staking.. Gyazo - 048213afc00761f9869cae9f15d598c3.png
Oh and the paypal confirmation; Gyazo - 037f59472252b45e17152712200af685.png

I attempted to get the money back and still sell it to the customer through hahanerds' middleman simply to get a 300m trade vouch with a 10$ profit since I was selling at 1.25/ BTC lol

Hahanerd1 posted PM's of me and him: I told my customer same thing: Gyazo - a55689c19f2ad19b68554fd28bb83fc5.png
More proof I told my customer already: Gyazo - ff5731c267ab28ed3e4e779ee3d94aae.png

I was hiding nothing lmao. Me and the customer are actually close right now. I informally referred him to make a sythe, find an OMM of his choice, and do whatever he felt was safest haha.

YOUR SCAM REPORT DOESNT LOOK ODD. IT JUST FUCKING SOUNDS STUPID. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT IS? TWC IF I WAS DENYING THE GOLD. I JUST TOLD YOU NOT TO TELL HIM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I AM TRYING TO GET REPUTATION AND I DONT WANT MY CUSTOMERS THINK OTHERWISE I AM STAKING MONEY I COULD SELL TO THEM. But I guess people take any moment they can to take the bitch spotlight.

PVTEL · Jan 6, 2017

@Shin @video @Sythe

PVTEL · Jan 6, 2017

What kind of fucking kid are you? If you thought this was sketchy why not fucking say something too me? Instead of making a thread when I clearly said I was doing this to build reputation? that was the sole intent of my sales.
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He was all fucking good.. after my g2a payment fails and shit doesn't work out. He gets mad over waiting and files a report. Ok.

PVTEL · Jan 6, 2017

If you're an OMM or even a regular MM, this kind of behavior usually means that they are wanting to scam the other user but can't because they are in a conversation with an OMM and need an excuse to get out - HAHANERD1

my response: Bitch, If I was scamming would I go ahead through 5 different live chats to fucking order gold? I was even screenshotting the process of my payments too you so you didn't check anything suspicious. If I was scamming I would've easily fucking finessed the kid. he didn't even have a sythe account until I told him to make 1. he didn't know shit about middleman/OMM till I fucking told him about it. you sound so fucking pathetic.

PVTEL · Jan 6, 2017

@Astro

Sun · Jan 6, 2017

I can confirm that he actually attempted to purchase the gold, however he shouldn't say he is selling until he has the actual funds/product (also shouldn't be using/staking it prior to a sale either).

https://i.gyazo.com/e4729ebca0c1d4ad55052980be5d4b60.png

I also told PVTEL that he needed to keep an eye on his phone so "missing the call" isn't a good enough excuse imo.

PVTEL · Jan 6, 2017

Yankiee said:
I can confirm that he actually attempted to purchase the gold, however he shouldn't say he is selling until he has the actual funds/product (also shouldn't be using/staking it prior to a sale either).

https://i.gyazo.com/e4729ebca0c1d4ad55052980be5d4b60.png

I also told PVTEL that he needed to keep an eye on his phone so "missing the call" isn't a good enough excuse imo.

I had it prior in stock.. and then we took forever with the process and I slowly started staking and dicing. So AS SOON AS I LOST IT. I REPEAT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR. "AS SOON AS I LOST IT" I contacted hahanerd to tell him what happened. Then CONTACTED my customer and told him WHO did not care because he understood my nature with gambling. Which is no excuse as a seller but that does not fucking mean I get a TWC.

PVTEL · Jan 6, 2017

also @Yankiee I never said I missed the phone call nor did I use it as an excuse. Matter a fact to make it clear. there was no excuses in this situation lmao. It was more so, hahanerd1 feels salty for waiting at 4Am and not getting his 10m.

Sun · Jan 6, 2017

PVTEL said:
I had it prior in stock.. and then we took forever with the process and I slowly started staking and dicing. So AS SOON AS I LOST IT. I REPEAT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR. "AS SOON AS I LOST IT" I contacted hahanerd to tell him what happened. Then CONTACTED my customer and told him WHO did not care because he understood my nature with gambling. Which is no excuse as a seller but that does not fucking mean I get a TWC.

I didn't support the TWC. Just added it for other mods to see.

Sun · Jan 6, 2017

PVTEL said:
also @Yankiee I never said I missed the phone call nor did I use it as an excuse. Matter a fact to make it clear. there was no excuses in this situation lmao. It was more so, hahanerd1 feels salty for waiting at 4Am and not getting his 10m.

"didn't work cuz when they called for verification I didn't pick up"

PVTEL · Jan 6, 2017

Yankiee said:
"didn't work cuz when they called for verification I didn't pick up"

Sorry you right, I'm high. But it was not an excuse if it was the truth right? Regardless of the fact this specific point me and you are quarreling over is not the main focus. The focus is that this nerd wants to give me a TWC. without me attempting a scam? The failed g2a payment, me staking away my gold, etc are not suspicious behaviors of fucking anything lmao.

PVTEL · Jan 6, 2017

I'd understand if I said "hey no actually no middlemans are on.. and I want to make the trade now or ill sell to someone else for higher. So if you want it you can go first.. I'm trusted blah blah blah, etc". Now if that type of conversation existed between the customer and I. Then Yes, you can call it sketchy and clearly you can tell that I would be attempting a scam.

Shit though, let me turn this around and say.. Hahanerd1 maybe you were tryna scam me for 300m? You stayed up that late when you were tired apparently at 4 am right? The customer originally left the group chat because they declined your toS. You went out of your bitch ass way at "4 AM" to negotiate with him Maybe you wanted to speed up the deal and have it follow through so you can take my 300m. TWC. @Hahanerd

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