Reporting epicmmoservice

[killerinstinct]

Scammer's profile link:http://www.sythe.org/members/244458-epicmmoservice.html

Explanation of the trade: I bought 300k yesterday night and i just got an email saying this basically:Good afternoon,

We have recently received a report from another player that their account had been compromised. During the course of our investigation, we discovered that one of your characters had received goods from this player. Unfortunately, we have removed those goods to reimburse the owner.

So basically he got the gold back and stole my money.

How they scammed:^^^ Read above

Sythe PM picture: No sythe PM , i bought the golds from his website "epicpowerleveling.com"

Skype profile ID & conversation pictures:

https://gyazo.com/8d5471dd57a594efbe160913ad834dc4
As you can see here, he posted on his thread but i can see today that he deleted his comment. Why?
https://gyazo.com/a52202717409917b884a0b72f76cbbb9
https://gyazo.com/8249caa3bf352092e8cc4e71b5a551d1
https://gyazo.com/14ed8a07633d46e9cafd93872a2000e7
https://gyazo.com/31421a665cf4c9ad8cdfa1a30f48e450

Other relevant tradescreenshots:
https://gyazo.com/4c60ff278b2db33ab44531f06a62e14e
https://gyazo.com/f4a283e22d24ad5979018ea936a42212

I can show/teamviewer, do anything if requested to prove everything.

I am making this post just in case his skype and website are really "hacked".

Hopefully this gets solved As soon as possible.

PS: i bought from him before and it always had the same paypal email.
PS#2: In the email where it shows my email i received from blizzard, i covered my in-game name/realm/amount of golds removed with the "notepad". I will show the full version of the email via skype / teamviewer / sythe to a mod when the time comes.

thank you

 

[S]

How does this prove Epicmmoservice is a scammer? From what I gather, Blizzard themselves took the purchased gold of your account?

 

[killerinstinct]

in the email it clearly says "We have recently received a report from another player that their account had been compromised. During the course of our investigation, we discovered that one of your characters had received goods from this player. Unfortunately, we have removed those goods to reimburse the owner."

Means he reported himself and they reimbursed the golds to the original owner.

so basically anyone can sell gold, report that their account was compromised, get the golds back and keep selling? This is scamming.

Unfortunately, we have removed those goods to reimburse the owner

 

[S]

Could also be that Person A sold Epicmmo gold, then Epicmmo sold said gold to you, and then Person A reported it.

Need more concrete proof. I'll ask other staff members what they think.

 

[killerinstinct]

That is not my problem if his farmer scammed him..

i paid him 96$ and they(him or his famer) took it away from me. His farmer OR himself have the gold at the moment.. It clearly say it in the email i got. I want to get refunded.

I an teamviewer or skype share screen any mod to show anything they wish to see.

sorry for my bad english

 

[S]

Epicmmo's reply:

First and the most important thing is proof, to be honestly, we have had issues that Blizzard(the official) took gold away from the customers before, BUT its all because they consider the player who buy wow in game gold from site, which is definitely disobey to their policy, so they remove the gold, it happens only to face to face trade in game tho! Never have i had any problem as long as we adopt auction house buyout, not even heard that kind of thing till now. On the other hand, Blizzard sends two mails to players if they do take the gold, one for official email and another one for IN GAME MAIL(common sense), killer cant provide me with the in game mail sent by blizzard, which, makes me no proof to ask for compensation from my farmer(the person who delivered the wow gold).

Second, I have been selling on sythe since 2010, yeah NO,i never scam any people, i never make up any vouch, always honest and trustworthy, as to this point, several mods or even adms can give me a "thumb up", how come i scam him by this kind of thing ? Check my wow gold selling thread history, i dont think i get any report but killer...

Third, i have already paid my farmer for the 300k gold delivery, including the 19k AH fee, so i paid totally 319k. I was willing to pay a 100k partial compensation for his loss(maybe, as he cant provide me in game mail), he refused. Killer mate, i have traded with
you over 4 times, you know me i am not that kind of person who report to official site for getting the gold back, the previous trades cant go any smoother , right ? You want all money back, which is not fair at all, i paid all 319k to my farmer, tbh thats about 80USD.

Last but not least, as what i said there was always a risk to buy virtual in game gold, i once bought 3700m eoc and my account got disabled within 5 minutes, my rs account got disabled numerous times, my paypal funds got charged back numerous times, i delivered the wow gold to users on sythe first as he gets so many vouches but only to get removed from skype after delivery, i cant even find a place to cry!

 

[S]

Would you both be alright with a partial compensation, of 150K?

 

[killerinstinct]

I dont see why i should accept having only half of what i paid for when the email clearly says the golds has been returned to the original owner..

Him or his seller have the gold right now (300k).

Why should i be punished and get only half? It's not my fault at all, i deserve what i paid for.

Id say yes for 250k just to end this ... but not half.

 

[S]

Can you provide the ingame mail that EpicMMO is referring to?

 

[killerinstinct]

No i never received a in-game mail.

Only thing i got is a e-mail saying my golds were removed and given back to original owner

I can show the email to any mod who wants to see it. Its not fake it says " this message is from a trusted sender" or something like this.. I will check when i wake up tomorrow im in bed now.

Pretty sure he is saying this because he knows you dont always receive one so thats why hes saying this, so it sounds like he have to refund me. I will show the email to any mod who pm me with the request. Or teamviewer/skype/anything.

Just end this story and give me what i paid for please.

PS i can even go in a live chat with b'izzard and confirm that they did it with the exact amount and name , but they will probably ask me where the gold came from and idk what to say :/ anyways let me know..

Thank you

 

[S]

Would doing the Blizzard live-chat thing put your account at risk?

 

[killerinstinct]

Probably yes. I love this account i wouldnt like it getting banned.

im pretty sure the email i received from blizzard is a good proof.
https://i.gyazo.com/d767d729129c30032189fe88996d96d7.png

I covered what i dont want everyone to see. i can PM you the full screenshot or skype share screen you if u want sellerman.

Hopefully this gets solved soon, im leaving in 3 hours from now and will only be back sunday night @ 6-7PM

 

[video]

Unfortunately I cannot find EpicMMO liable for this, there is no proof that the recovered gold went to one of their accounts more likely it went to someone who sold to them and then EpicMMO in turn sold you the gold. This is a very unfortunate thing to happen and seems to put a lot of WoW gold buyers at risk so a sticky will be made in the WoW gold section making reference to this report and warning ppl that WoW gold can be recovered after a sale.

Again, very sorry this happened to you

 

[S]

Solved.

Edit: If you'd like to add anything Killer, feel free to make a new report/PM me.