Removal of the Public Relations Team

What does this have to do with the OP at all? The team is not getting anything done, period. And the leader is there just for the funrank.

 

I support redoing the team. No noticeable results. Kinda think that a lot of Tech core should be redone as well.

 

Maybe change up the members of the team is a better idea to get members who'd actually devote their time into doing something useful rather than just removing it overall.

 

At this point I would say combine the two, because CDT already does PR things better if not, a lot more regularly as compared to PR. PR shouldn't really be doing events, but that's what they seem to do in order to gain a social impact, really that's a CDT job with an extra added PR initiative.

I know what Artur means with combining sub-sections, it would look a mess. The sub-section can be kept separate if need be, just have CDT deal with both aspects.

@Sythe is the one that created this team and at this point they have not got any where. Rich will be deciding what happens and he was not in favour of joining the teams up. so Idk.

Btw @Soul I appreciate that honesty and clarity.

 

Yeah I guess combing the two would be best. But do the current cdt members want to take on more responsibility ? And do we want the same pr members to be in the new combined team? :s I just hope it doesn't negatively affect the cdt as they're in a great place now.

 

I must respectfully disagree with you. The CDT does NOTHING pr related. In fact the CDT only cares about runescape. There is no outlook on expanding the site or binging new members in with better content. CDT is focused on runescape and runescape alone, I get it that's what keeps this site alive. However what the PR team is "supposed" to be doing is completely different we are supposed to be working to make the site grow. There's two ways we can do this SEO and media. Right now if you google "buy csgo skins" sythe is nowhere to be found. If you type "dota accounts" nothing "buy league of legends account" nothing. The only thing sythe is known for is our RS market. That being said once RS dies this site crashes and burns, then what does th CDT do? I understand people are frustrated with the PR team right now but, speaking for myself, I am trying to change the way the PR team works and how efficient we are at the job we must do. Media is huge, SEO is huge directed advertising, that's what the team is supposed to be doing and that has nothing to do with the CDT. So no Sonia you are wrong, the two teams do not belong together and no Sonia the CDT does not do our job, I question if you even know half the things I'm talking about..... Yes the PR team is currently useless but tea assured plans are in the works to re-haul and change how we do things.

 

I don't believe they should be disbanded, simply looked into and factor in who does what.

 

I would support a re-shuffle of the PR team with a new leader. @iFreshMez would be a solid candidate to lead the team. If its the case that several PR members are not participating in what needs to be done then its better to take action now instead of waiting for people to start saying "I told you so!".

 

This post by FlyingToast perfectly describes the problem within the PR right now.

We are currently collecting funds because Sythe doesnt give us funds. We arent like the CDT that can ask goldshops to sponsor us as we try to reach communities in which they are not active. In a response to this I personally contacted different CS:GO websites, as I know some goldsites do trade in CSGO skins and whatnot, with the question if they are interested in doing a collaborated event. So far no one wanted to do something together though.

It's simple, really. A PR/Marketing team cant do their job if there are no funds available. Something about input and output. If the input is 0 the output is going to be close to 0.

This is why we are currently holding events in which we make some money as a team to spend on PR activities. Currently the Lottery is open and after the Lottery we already got a new event planned.

 

If you couldn't have done anything without funds why has it taken you so long to come up with a fundraising idea. It just seems like you're super sloppy with your work, a reshuffle is definitely needed.

 

Seems pretty one sided. Especially when mez contributed can very little.

 

pls no :c. i support reconstructing the team, or at least getting rid of the inactives that are taking the spots of possible new members. PR team has completely different objectives than CDT, which is bringing new people to this site through adverts, videos, keeping our social media up, etc. Im not saying that nothing has gotten done completely, pixelmon and the videos for youtubes, interviews, have all been done in the last few months. Although, right now, things seem to be dragging, hence why they need a reboot to get things back on track.

 

Money helps, but every social media platform has ways to reach out to groups of people without spending money on ADs. I don't disagree with fund raisers for the team. But spend the budget wisely. Learn more about each platform and how the analytics work for each before spending any money.

 

Yet the PR has done nothing in how many months it's been created? I do know what I'm talking about, I've seen them do nothing. Only thing that was changing was @iFreshMez creating youtube vids. Pr is just an addition of CDT, with the fact that all PR has done is create events to expand on to social media. Pr should of never needed to create events to either source income, or create a pre-hype of sythe members in order to expand on to the outer-base. Pr is supposed to go out and bring in, not use members to bring in others. Clearly it hasn't worked well. P.s. I'm more on the media side of things.

anyways @DesireX I know, I totally get that, some CDT members have 0 knowledge or want to do PR, some do and do so naturally. I don't know what PR members do right now other then mez with youtube. how many pr members are there? soul? im solo? buyacc? mez? aroxez?

Buyacc stopped using Sythe discord, one of the communications the members are apart of, which is something they could expand on getting people to come in to the discord etc. There are a lot of osbot users who love to just chat.. and they're spicy as well considering we have a weird community in discord. I've seen Scotty do better PR tactics then some PR members.

If companies aren't wanting to fund, then you're doing something wrong.. You're not offering them something worthwhile.

 

i am almost positive this was a separation mandated by richard

this is what kinda annoys me about the CDT and PR teams... there are really productive users and there are really helpful members. sometimes these overlap (CDT is doing well with all the events right now; solo is doing stuff for PR team), but oftentimes they dont. people are busy, incentives to participate and dedicate time to a team that people view as a funrank are low, etc.

as you mentioned, i think it falls to the team leaders to do something more about restructuring teams with goals and deadlines such that people of different skill sets and activity levels can all work towards common goals. it also don't help that richard has been more hands-off recently. but i want a system where users like you and aroxez and others who don't camp the forum 24/7 can contribute meaningfully without having to be online all the time.

so i dont think removing the PR team is going to happen (not least because richard seems really intent on keeping it around). but i do think it needs funding and new membership.

 

im sorry but once again i must disagree with almost everything you have said. Sonia it seems that your infatuation and former position in the CDT clouds your judgment. But it will be my pleasure to clear the air for you. A PR team in real life deals with the external image of a company, like us they run the social media accounts, website (this is speaking in terms of a real company) along with anything else that might come up online, in press etc. The CDT would best be equated to an HR department, they help orchestrate events and company team building events. So for sythe the job of the CDT is to create a better working community and keep "moral", if you will, up throughout the community. In the aspect of making events, CDT has had sucess under both you and now @Mootrucks , however the same cant be said about the building of the community. You blame PR for not recruiting new members but it is the CDTs job to keep those members. Something that is quite honestly an epic fail. its just as hard to get new members as it is to keep them. On to the next part of your post bashing MY event, i dont think you understand how idiodic it sounds to say that reaching out to our current members to attract new ones is a bad idea. I would love for you to start a brand new instagram/twitter with the name Sythe and some how have thousands and thousands of new users overloading our server trying to sign up. the only way for social media to grow is, well, to be social. Being social means encouraging people to talk about you to share your tweet, or tag their friends, and if our current members can help in this aspect why not use them? if you would like, due to my transparent nature i would love to show you all the accounts i have reached out to already in the CSGO and OSRS markets to help us spread word about our page. Two CSGO accounts one with 24k followers and one with 47k have already advertised our site for us, and the one with the 47k actually advertised the CDT event with an image that i created with the permission of @Mootrucks So maybe before accusing me and the team of not doing anything you should fact check. Yes the PR team got an post made by ME advertised for the CDT, WOAH weird how that works when two members support each other and dont just post stupid things! Again i don't think PR should be disbanded but i hope to continue my relationship with Moo and pray he never gets replaced by someone this closed minded! i hope you actually take the time to read this and not dismiss it like my last post and say something even less true!

 

This would be pretty bad... Having a user with a shady past, history of scamming and fruadulent activites representing sythe to other communities. I don't think anybody wants someone with a background like yours representing the website, it would just become a big joke.

I do support merging the teams though and the teams should learn to better work together or allow the current members to participate in both the outreach and retention efforts.

This site will always be a market oriented forum and we should look to build on that by expanding into new markets, a lot will have to do with SEO and moving away from a runescape focused approach.

 

*rollseyes* I'm talking about PR prior to you being in it. I don't know what you do because I've not seen it.

 

The PR team is in need of reform. Our best option right now is split leadership as it was in the beginning. When Tyler and Gracious were in charge they would get after the members almost everyday to finish projects and start something new.

Merging the CDT and PR would be messy and imo not a good option. Many CDT members do not want to take over the jobs we were doing. Yes we were doing jobs. My main focus was twitter and facebook as well as I was working on my own event. I was part of the first group inducted into PR in the summer when I had a lot of time to kill and help out. Being that I am a student and cannot dedicate 100% effort all of the time, I am happy to step down and let some new blood take a shot. I feel as if I've done my part for the overall creation of the team and served bravely!

Honestly it is difficult being part of something when the whole website wants you to fail. Everything we did from day one was met with negativity. If I could give any advice to the future PR team, stay positive when everyone tells you that your work is garbage.





and don't let gun anywhere near

 

support on non-removal for this reason, moreover, I can't see the CDT or TC actually advertising it regardless. All the cdt does is weekly events, and all the tc does is rsps work.
or indefinitely merge them.
honestly what can the PR do, they can't host a sythe event since they're not cdt, they can't work on a game since they're not TC, so all they really can do is... social media? Isn't that what they've been doing? I'm sure once the sytheRSPS launches, advertisements on different rsps websites will go up, e.g. rune-server, rune-locus, toplist, etc, then we'll see an increase in productivity.

also you should take guns opinion with a grain of salt, all he really will do as a PR leader is scam with the 'trust' that comes from the rank and corrupt the position of a leader as a whole.