Rapier vs whip staking?

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Rapier vs whip staking?
  1. Unread #1 - Jul 7, 2018 at 1:27 PM
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    Rapier vs whip staking?

    Has anyone actually crunched the numbers if the rapier is better then tentacle staking? Taking in account for poison
     
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    Rapier vs whip staking?

    Rapier is definitely better then tentacle at duel arena, hence why people try scamming with the rapier.
     
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    Rapier vs whip staking?

    It's luck lmfao. Alot of people lost Bills because they thought rapier was much better. But stats wise, rapier is indeed better.
     
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    Rapier vs whip staking?

    please tell me you did not just say its luck. there is no such thing, there is only probability
     
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    Rapier vs whip staking?

    NOTE: This is copy and pasted from a reddit thread, I didn't know if links are allowed

    The one thing people didn't calculate when stating that Rapier is much better for staking than tentacle is the poison effect. There's a reason why all of the RWT Odd stakers and and hasta scammers have not transitioned to a Rapier, the math proves its >1% odds better. Basically means that if you do 100 stakes, you're supposed to win 50.7 The math: A tent has a 25% chance to inflict poison on every hit, with the poison ticking every 15 second intervals. The tentacle poison inflicts 4 damage, which can be calculated as HP odds in a stake. Every HP level is worth 1.01% winning odds. If you calculate the length of a stake, with 99hp being the standard and hits being 12.5 on average(random roll of 0-26) and the chance to miss a hit due to accuracy(pretty low), an average stake lasts 9 hits. There is therefore, a 94% chance the poison hits in a stake. Odds rapier vs tent: Rapier gives a max hit which is 4.5% better. Tent has a (.94*4.04)= 3.8% poison advantage. Therefore, if you did 100 stakes, you are still expected to win 50 stakes out of 100. (50.7).
     
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    Rapier vs whip staking?

    Let me tell you my own statistics.

    If you use the tentacle for the first hit and assuming you posion your opponent, your odds are 56% excluding pid.

    If you don’t use the tentacle and you camp rapier, and you DONT get poisoned throughout the stake, your odds are 55.6%.

    If you use the rapier, and you DO get venomed, or you use the tent and you don’t hit. Hence he isn’t venomed, your odds are 51-52%.

    Personally, I did 25 stakes to test out the rapier + hasta.
    Won 19 lost 6.
    Keep in mind I did get lucky, I should’ve done a larger sample size but my main got banned.
     
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    Rapier vs whip staking?

    Sorry about your main lol. Jagex is ramping up their game. I think the math is more complex then that considering poison could hit multiple times
     
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    Rapier vs whip staking?

    WAY too small of a sample to draw any statistics. Thousands of simulated stakes are required for statistics.
     
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    Rapier vs whip staking?

    I understand, it’s all over reddit. Go check it out.
     
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