[DENIED] Proof of ownership in non-RS name sales.

As the title states, currently the name sales sections of games that are not runescape are mostly under regulated.

Currently some threads juts say "I have ogs for sale" and not much else. AFAIK an Xbox or PSN name has never been sniped. This would help the section with sales as people could look at the thread and then see the name, rather than requiring you to message the OP of every thread.

It's a small rule but would help clean up the section.

Either proof of ownership, or just require people to post names. This would help with OP's over inflating OGs vs Semi-OGs etc.

Currently threads like this
Selling gamertags cheap
Vexuh's OG/Semi Shop
Selling Xbox Gamertags
OG tags
Original tags for sale

plague the Xbox / PSN name sales...

My suggestion at a basic level is just require people to put the names.

Or at least do something similar to this
Best Bundle on Market (4 oG Tags for $120)

The first 5 threads are just bunk.

 

I can tell you are extremely inexperienced with xbox gamertags. Xbox Gts get turbo'd (what you call sniping). It is very easy to steal a gamertag in comparison to an RSN. Was a very active user on a different forum from 2010-2015, if you can swap a GT without getting turbo'd, its cuz it was trash/you kept it private.

 

Can agree with this. Used to be in the Xbox-gt game not long after i first got one.
Although it may have been a lot more popular then, it can still be 'sniped' easily these days. That's like asking people to post their full RSN for sale.. would you do that if you knew it was worth a lot? >.<

 

Currently threads like this
Selling gamertags cheap
Vexuh's OG/Semi Shop
Selling Xbox Gamertags
OG tags
Original tags for sale

plague the Xbox / PSN name sales...

My suggestion at a basic level is just require people to put the names.

Or at least do something similar to this
Best Bundle on Market (4 oG Tags for $120)

The first 5 threads are just bunk.

 

Yes but why would you publicise the tags? Like @Hike said, that'll only make the snipe/turbo chance much much higher.
I would never publicly post my RSN's on a thread, nor would any other smart person.. why should GT's be any different

 

To put it simply, Sythe is not a forum for anything except RS(and for the record its the best at RS IMO, apart from gold) Partially my opinion/mostly the truth lol.

The people who post their GT's publicly, if they are good, will get stolen.
Smart people (or should I say, the experienced GT users) will not post their gamertag. If they do, smart people will not buy it. You require 2 noob users to do something foolish like that. It's a hard learning lesson. Theres already quite a bit that can happen with GT's even if you don't get sniped. I was scammed 2 gamertags, and got console banned in my earlyish days. I've also sold gamertags for over 2 grand. Not trying to flaunt, not saying I'm an absolute baller, it's just the truth. You can't publicly post a GT like that.

PSN, afaik, you can't transfer the name, so buying one of those unless you get it from the original jacker, you're probably fucked there too lol.

edit: I do understand where you're coming from, that section is fucking gross. You can also make good money if you come from a GT forum, a lot of sythe users have no idea of pricing/we can get more if we come here. Thats why you see people like h1p3r and shit lol. I came here specifically to sell the GT my username is shortly after the reset. I got like $100-200 more than if i sold it on HF. I also sold a bunch of spaced tags for 2-3x value. It's just the way it goes. If you plan to get into GT's seriously, look elsewhere

 

No support

Sythe is a free market for not just Runescape.

If these guys have to publicly post their xbox tags, then it would only be fair to force RSN sellers to publicly post the names they have.

 

The Market place is fulled with bunk posts. Something as simple as you must post a hint to the name, or give number of characters.

If you looked at the threads I put in OP you'd see these really low quality posts.

 

If people are too lazy to create a good quality sales thread, believe me, they will get no sales.

 

But then why have the rest of the section filled with posts that provide no other information, otherthan "kik me _________ for ogs"

I went through some of the posts in the section,





All of those posts in red are nothing more than "I have OGs kik me:"

They all use kik for some reason too.

 

I agree with you fully, it's a mess. But what can the sythe admins/mods possibly do to clean it up? Your proposed solution will not solve, or clean up the gamertags section. What you're proposing will only create more of a problem.

In fact, leaving posts like "kik me @Name for gts" opens up the option for scammers to attempt to scam again with the same GT.

So you screw the scammers, and you screw the legitimate people. In fact, scammers have it better off. They most likely purchased the 5-10$ turbo, and have it running as soon as they see something with value. Then they could just sell it on another forum. Leaving a "hint" that actually gets you to what the name is, is the same as posting it. You might make it away clean with lower quality tags(not getting turbo'd), but it won't work for what serious buyers/sellers are looking for.

What would work is if one long time, trusted user, who has done thousands in transactions handled verifying tags. Require proof of funds, become active in the GT name community, so you can know whats going on. It wouldn't completely quench scammers, and tags could still get turbo'd if you aren't careful. Then a sythe mod needs to decide what is worthy of being an OG. That is a lot to ask of someone. I can't see anyone being able to keep up with that kind of demand/traffic. Maybe PM h1p3r and see what he says.


I don't actually know who he is, and a lot of his rep is just nonsense, you typically get +1 or +3 depending on the user. But I've seen him around. I would personally nominate @Hiper. I'd also be interested to see what he thinks of the situation. However, we are normal users and don't have nearly enough experience/time/reputation on this forum to be of any kind of influence.

Edit: perhaps upgraded accounts would be required to post in the GT section. (member fee, helps the forum, and scammers will have a bit of a harder time if they get blacklisted for bullshitting, have to either use a different verified paypal, or some kind of trackable payment, also if there is a wait period of say, a few weeks to a month for newer/inactive users. You won't get upgraded if you aren't at least signing on, etc). Once again, not completely annihilating scammers, but to put a rock in their path.


E: Also at the same time I would not use H1P3R. then again, I wouldn't use any sythe mod except MAYBE n4n0. This could also deter other users, but at the same time I don't think people are as adamant as I am that I will never go first, I will not use a MM(unless its a large cash amount, and they have me up against a wall), etc.

 

RIP n4n0/Ryan [1989-2017]

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Since you're the "expert" and are only shooting down ideas and offering ones that are not going to happen, do you have any reasonable ideas?

 

holy fuck wth. Rip, I had no idea.

I'm not flaming you, I'm agreeing with you that the GT section is shit. I said your idea would not in any way benefit anyone but the people who are trying to scam. The mediocre solutions I offered are the only possible chance I can see of having that section cleaned up. If I had more ideas, I would have included them in my post.

 

Maybe just a rule that you post how many of each catagory you have

Something like
OGs:
*****
*******

Semi-OGs:
*****


Just to require a little bit more effort than kik me:

 

I agree that would help with more than "kik me"

But then you will be seeing

OGs:
****
*****

Semis:
********

kik me

 

OGs are worth so much more than runescape names are, I don't blame them at all for keeping them private.

I do the exact same thing on my RSN store, are you suggesting my thread should be closed, or I should make my list public? Am sweet thanks lol

 

Not at all,

I just think that posts that are only

"add my kik ________"

are the bare minimum and are just spam.

 

That's basically what I'm saying as well though, add me on skype/discord and I show a few vouches and some of the names I've sold etc

Yeah it's a bit cancer to look at but that's where they want to conduct their trades offsite

 

At the very least I believe an announcement should be made warning people NOT to trade over Kik. I've personally never used it because I've been told its a place to pre-teens to sext. Fuck using that shit I'd rather stick to my usual WhatsApp and iMessage.
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As for this suggestion. I think proving ownership is a great suggestion. As for how it would be done, I think it should be done similar to how @Gen handle's his LoL boosting.

Basically this would work as Verified Sales. Users would PM a staff member with proof they own the name and even be able to PM a staff member with adequate proof i.e. if they own an RS name then they would PM a staff member in the game to confirm this. (I know its for non-RS names however this is an example).

They would then have their title changed to [Verified] and a staff member would post this within their thread. This would allow people to know the difference between a verified sale and just a random sale. Not to mention, verified sellers would receive a lot more recognition and sales as opposed to random ones.

As for people like @Niki and @Milotic, these people would automatically receive the Verified name sales for ranks as they have done it for a number of years and have plenty of vouches in which they can show for it.

Not to mention @Hiper would also receive this rank as he is known and trusted for selling a bunch of tags.

 

I would move tag this in the rsn name section as well. I get far too many PM's of different people somehow selling the same rsns.