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criterion said:
In response to Ermky.

Marijuana will not have the same effect on everyone, it won't have the same influence universally either. Some may come dependent on it, some may boycott the drug after an uncomfortable trip. I know that marijuana can bring out confidence and allow people to focus more, how - i do not know because i am the opposite. When i smoke pot i become self conscious, even pseudo-schizophrenic. My low self esteem disallowed me to smoke any longer.
The effect(s) it has on the individual will always vary- and so this applies to its influence on one to try harder drugs. Just because a study indicates that only x number of people moved onto cocaine after exploiting pot does not ultimately blow any other speculation out of the water. On the contrary my experiences with the drug don't comprise a definitive answer either.

Marijuana has potential to be a gateway drug to some- while others may not be affected. Lets agree on that shall we?
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The way you worded your response to my initial post bewildered me as you basically sounded as if you were claiming that BECAUSE of these studies any other perspective on the matter is baseless.
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No no, The only reason i criticized you was because you said it's a gateway drug, yet you never mentioned that for some people it might lead to trying harder drugs. Hence I thought you meant everyone who smoked pot.

Of course, not everyone sticks with Marijuana. It would be foolish of me to claim something stupid like that.

Marijuana is for some, unfortunately a gateway drug. In other words, I agree.
 
Ermky said:
No no, The only reason i criticized you was because you said it's a gateway drug, yet you never mentioned that for some people it might lead to trying harder drugs. Hence I thought you meant everyone who smoked pot.

Of course, not everyone sticks with Marijuana. It would be foolish of me to claim something stupid like that.

Marijuana is for some, unfortunately a gateway drug. In other words, I agree.
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You say marijuana is a gateway drug, it CAN be a gateway drug.
 
criterion said:
You clearly haven't read any posts previous to the one you responded to. =@
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How'd you know? I'd rather not go through all 40 posts, possibly being some with 4 paragraph answers. I'd rather join in the argument were it was left off.
 
pure skillzz said:
How'd you know? I'd rather not go through all 40 posts, possibly being some with 4 paragraph answers. I'd rather join in the argument were it was left off.
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That would be understandable- but you didn't even care to read the entire POST you responded to. You read the last sentence, which i find hilarious.
 
criterion said:
I don't care about statistics.. how trivial. I gain knowledge and wisdom through real life experience, fuck your 'studies' , your reliance is primitive.
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I think this quote shows why I don't wish to bother wasting my time with you. If you hadn't noticed, this forum is for reasoned debate, not a place for people to express their unfounded opinions and so-called life lessons.

Now, for the argument you tried to present. You assume that because you used marijuana first, that means it was to blame for you also using mushrooms and LSD. It is not to blame, what is to blame is you. I doubt that, had you started with alcohol instead of cannabis, and never even smoked pot in your life, that your situation would end up much different.
 
RecoveryKing said:
I think this quote shows why I don't wish to bother wasting my time with you. If you hadn't noticed, this forum is for reasoned debate, not a place for people to express their unfounded opinions and so-called life lessons.

Now, for the argument you tried to present. You assume that because you used marijuana first, that means it was to blame for you also using mushrooms and LSD. It is not to blame, what is to blame is you. I doubt that, had you started with alcohol instead of cannabis, and never even smoked pot in your life, that your situation would end up much different.
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Again, don't bother responding to me until you thoroughly read what has been stated throughout your absence, you only confound yourself arguing pre-maturely and no one wants to read regurgitated shpeel .

Ultimately i am at fault for my subordination. Descending into a world of drugs- my choice. My influence... Marijuana- hence the term gateway.
 
criterion said:
Again, don't bother responding to me until you thoroughly read what has been stated throughout your absence, you only confound yourself arguing pre-maturely and no one wants to read regurgitated shpeel .
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I read everything you posted, so I have no idea what you are talking about.

criterion said:
Ultimately i am at fault for my subordination. Descending into a world of drugs- my choice. My influence... Marijuana- hence the term gateway.
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Just because you personally think that Marijuana is what influenced you, doesn't mean it was.
 
RecoveryKing said:
I read everything you posted, so I have no idea what you are talking about.


Just because you personally think that Marijuana is what influenced you, doesn't mean it was.
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I cannot believe you think you are in any position to be insisting upon what personally influenced me. This is rare, in debate, to come across one that actually believes their selfish perception of reality defeats ones own particular feelings. Do not tell me what did and did not influence me to move onto latter drugs, i assure you that marijuana- and its (over time) underwhelming toll on my mind lead me to explore more exotic drugs.

Keep your preconceived beliefs to yourself, its become quite obvious you have no direction in your rantings. You are without a doubt one that cannot let go of an argument until you've reached the top- as futile as it's become.

You're banned now so i won't expect a response, although this discussion is already over i know you'd have something dreadfully stale to backlash.
 
viva said:
Exactly, The only reason marijuana is not legal is because the government couldn't make money off of it. The same people who are out here selling marijuana right now are still going to be selling it and the government is going to get 0% of the drug dealers money. Even if they do open dispensaries and whatnot there still is going to be even more people just growing in their houses for personal use and drug dealers still selling from their houses and on street corners. For example...In california, there are dispensaries but there are people who grow their own then sell the excess at cannabis clubs and get 100% of the money with no taxes involved. That is all.
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Yeah.. California made over a billion $USD in a single annual year in taxes alone from taxing medical marijuana.
 
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