Points v2

[Xolr]

I agree, but the problem isn't with the miniranks. It's how they are tradeable and worth something. That idea alone is contradicting to the list. Sure you can use them as a currency, but that's a stretch. A point system is more direct, and exactly what they've requested to not be requested. I edited my post above.

 

I agree, but the problem isn't with the miniranks. It's how they are tradeable and worth something. That idea alone is contradicting to the list. Sure you can use them as a currency, but that's a stretch. A point system is more direct, and exactly what they've requested to not be requested. I edited my post above.

>Says the problem isn't with the miniranks
>Then says it's because they are tradable and worth something
>Miniranks are tradable and worth something

The addition of minirank trading contradicts the list. The point system only supports miniranks. Buying and selling points would be exactly the same as buying and selling miniranks because points are only used to buy miniranks.

 

[Xolr]

Miniranks aren't the problem. The fact that they are tradeable is. That's exactly what I'm saying. Repeat it all day, heh.

What you just posted is fine. I'm basing my responses off the op where it says users can buy, sell, and trade points -like- miniranks. Not using them -for- miniranks and then buy, sell, or trade the miniranks. This would imply currency. Maybe I read it wrong, but I don't think I did.

 

Thought you were referencing the points. Making the points tradable like miniranks adds versatility.

 

[Xolr]

What would stop people from selling gold or accounts for points then?

Furthermore, would the points be used to purchase a rank from another user, or create a rank all together? If the latter, this would be undermine the whole "donate for miniranks" scheme. I figure this isn't what you're implying though so that leaves the only other option. That raises the question why would there be a point system to buy or sell miniranks when miniranks are already tradeable? People trade gold, cash, accounts, alpaca Socks, and more for miniranks. It seems points would either be a) very detrimental to the value of miniranks or b) worthless because the points would be created at a predictable rate and would decline in value over time.

The only support in the thread is for a currency or rep system. Nobody understands what you're trying to get across. Heck I don't even know if I fully understand it...

 

Sigh.. I'll break it down for you so you can understand.

There is nothing stopping anyone from using the points for other methods of trade. As explained before, the points only use is to buy miniranks. Same thing with miniranks. I bought a 30 day rs membership with a minirank. No one is trying to stop others from using miniranks or points however they like to.

As I said in the original post clearly, a shop would be created so you can cash in your points for miniranks.

Any argument you have against points could be said the same for miniranks.

Please just read the original post. Everything you're questioning is answered there.

 

[Xolr]

I agree, like I said before. The fact that the ranks are tradeable is contradictory to the fact that sythe doesn't want a currency system. Lol, my first post on the thread said this. Call it points, call it miniranks, donuts, it doesn't matter. It's a currency system and it's contradictory. You are smart enough to see this.

Agreed nobody is trying to stop it, because nobody sees it. Or nobody cares. Either way is a bad thing. I'll tell you what people "are" doing though. They're making threads like this to circumvent a dns list, lol.

We're in a vicious circle here.

 

[Chris]

This would greatly devalue Miniranks. Plus it encourages vaders to get a minirank, sell it for dirt cheap and repeat on a new acc. No support.

 

[Hailey]

http://www.sythe.org/suggestions/1445207-do-not-suggest-list.html

Points, currency, rep system, all the same.

Go to d2jsp if you want this, their runescape section community alone is bigger than all of sythe combined.

As for your point let me add this on that list it says this which Ghast has one.



"Do not suggestion anything on this list unless you have a new and very convincing argument for them."

 

[Xolr]

As for your point let me add this on that list it says this which Ghast has one.



"Do not suggestion anything on this list unless you have a new and very convincing argument for them."

I agree. Keep reading the conversation between me and Ghast and then create a very convincing suggestion thread for a currency system. That one, I'll get into. I like currency and reputation systems. I could even draft some great ideas for it. But a point system for miniranks is absolutely not the way to go about it.

 

This would greatly devalue Miniranks. Plus it encourages vaders to get a minirank, sell it for dirt cheap and repeat on a new acc. No support.

Miniranks were originally created as fun ranks and should be treated as so. People argued that prize boxes would devalue miniranks, yet they were added anyways. This is to raise activity around the forum as a whole. Don't expect everyone to be roaming around with excess amounts of miniranks, it won't be easy as paying for one via prize boxes.

As for your point let me add this on that list it says this which Ghast has one.



"Do not suggestion anything on this list unless you have a new and very convincing argument for them."

You beat me to it lol.

 

[Xolr]

You should recreate the thread for a currency system. A "versatile" point system that is use for miniranks (that would never be used for miniranks) is "point"less. Pun intended.

Leave the miniranks alone. They encourage donating to sythe which is the whole point. Whether or not it devalues them still negates the donating scheme.

Like I said, I'm all for a currency system. I like how they work as long as you can structure the currency properly and have it keep it's value well defined and maintained. This is very difficult to do, though.

 

"Leave the miniranks alone. They encourage donating to sythe which is the whole point."

Not sure if serious or is trying to further a dead argument out of spite of getting debunked.

1. Miniranks came out as fun ranks to gain activity on the forum. This was the original point for their creation.
2. Prize boxes were recently added as a donor "incentive".
3. Miniranks are continuously being given out via competitions. Expect another one soon due to new miniranks being added.
4. Sythe Wallet is being developed as a Sythe Currency. Yes, I said that correctly.
5. This suggestion is to raise more activity. No one told others to buy out all the miniranks they can and disregard any future updates that will hinder the imaginary value they set on it.
6. Versatility allows these points to be used for things such as dicing, competitions, and any other method of trade.
7. Points will be distributed randomly and not carelessly through the automated system.
8. Stop trying to anticipate the outcome of a suggestion you are still clueless about.
9. This is simply another moderate method of distribution that incentives activity among the community.
10. Donating just for miniranks (prize boxes) is inefficient. You can get 10 miniranks buying it one at a time from others instead of taking a gamble on a $100 box that has the chance of giving you a minirank you don't want.

 

[Xolr]

1. That's not the case now.
2. Yeah so let's remove that donation incentive with this system.
3. Yeah...? New ranks, new prices. Current ranks... Current prices? Not understanding you here.
4. Great. Looking forward to it.
5. More spam, wewt.
6. Sweet, two currencies.
7. First time mentioning the word random distribution. Plot twist.
8. I'm not anticipating anything. I don't care for the miniranks in general.
9. You should visit d2jsp.
10. See #2.

Either way this is absurd and we're arguing for shits and giggles now. You've changed your original idea so many times since I came into the discussion that I'm lost and have no clue what's going on. I'm done. You win. I suppose it's a obscure idea for a currency system. I support this horrible idea.

 

[Sempiternally]

The idea is good.
But there are so many things that would make it hard to factor in points.

 

[Dave]

You're essentially just describing some type of on-site Sythe currency, I'm fairly certain this is on the DNS list

 

[Mindaugas]

Great idea, support it!

 

You're essentially just describing some type of on-site Sythe currency, I'm fairly certain this is on the DNS list

Do not suggestion anything on this list unless you have a new and very convincing argument for them.

I've added a bullet suggesting the points be called "Minirank Points", so it isn't confused with anything else. I've already tackled it's use and why it would be effective.

 

This would greatly devalue Miniranks. Plus it encourages vaders to get a minirank, sell it for dirt cheap and repeat on a new acc. No support.

As stated, miniranks were never supposed to have some sort of $ value.
Supply vs demand, if people can work towards getting a minirank instead of buying don't you think they'd rather work towards it? Shitposting would get you $1-2 especially if the miniranks become rewards from just posting.

I like the idea, but instead of an automatic system, why don't we put some people in charge of it? Awarding "minirank points" to those they see doing constructively well on the site, contributing and not shit posting.

 

[Sypherz]

As stated, miniranks were never supposed to have some sort of $ value.
Supply vs demand, if people can work towards getting a minirank instead of buying don't you think they'd rather work towards it? Shitposting would get you $1-2 especially if the miniranks become rewards from just posting.

I like the idea, but instead of an automatic system, why don't we put some people in charge of it? Awarding "minirank points" to those they see doing constructively well on the site, contributing and not shit posting.

It could either work very well if done right or just turn into a huge popularity contest.