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[FireZ]

Thats ridiculous, I never asked anything of the sort. All I was doing was simply asking that his punishment should be greater.

I never really any thought about the removal of his vouches, it was just posted from another user and I happened to quote him. The main thing I was referring to, was his status removal, such as the OMM stamp.

Removing his OMM rank isn't going to slow him down much if at all from MMing.

 

[Necromancer24]

Thats ridiculous, I never asked anything of the sort. All I was doing was simply asking that his punishment should be greater.

I never really had any thought about the removal of his vouches, it was just posted from another user and I happened to quote him. The main thing I was referring to, was his status removal, such as the OMM stamp.

So your idea of a punishment is his OMM rank removed? Why? He earned that. You want to create another Syed-type case?

 

Removing his OMM rank isn't going to slow him down much if at all from MMing.

I don't think this guy understands that removing Nate's vouches and ranks aren't going to affect his ability to trade with legitness and integrity.

 

[Kamehameha x10]

Removing his OMM rank isn't going to slow him down much if at all from MMing.

Well good for him! I would be happy to see this happen.

Your taking this argument the wrong way; I'm not trying to keep Nate knocked down into the ground. I'm simply suggesting that if he is REALLY sincere in this site, then the least he could do is start over to prove to sythe fellow users; such as I, that he is legit and willing to improve/help the site.

 

[Kamehameha x10]

I don't think this guy understands that removing Nate's vouches and ranks aren't going to affect his ability to trade with legitness and integrity.

I'm not wanting the removal to effect him in the way that it hurts his business. I believe that he should further show users that doubt his trust that he really is non-corrupt, by earning back his status.

EDIT: I'm half asleep, and I'm really unable to discuss what I wanted to discuss.

I didn't want this to turn into an argument, but it looks like its headed in its direction. I'll continue tomorrow if the thread isn't locked.

 

[Chriscross23]

Well good for him! I would be happy to see this happen.

Your taking this argument the wrong way; I'm not trying to keep Nate knocked down into the ground. I'm simply suggesting that if he is REALLY sincere in this site, then the least he could do is start over to prove to sythe fellow users; such as I, that he is legit and willing to improve/help the site.

No, a temporary ban is much more suitable. He's worked for what he's got and he should not lose that because of a simple mistake. Instead give him a 3 month ban as a warning for if it ever happens again. Also he doesn't need to prove to an obvious vader that he is contributing to the site.

 

Well good for him! I would be happy to see this happen.

Your taking this argument the wrong way; I'm not trying to keep Nate knocked down into the ground. I'm simply suggesting that if he is REALLY sincere in this site, then the least he could do is start over to prove to sythe fellow users; such as I, that he is legit and willing to improve/help the site.

He's legit. He helps the site. His endless contributions as an OMM, UE, and officisl guide verifier isn't enough? You're turning your own words around. You've made no argument that shows why Nate should start over.

 

[Kamehameha x10]

Also he doesn't need to prove to an obvious vader that he is contributing to the site.

Let the admins run a IP check on me. Im just using this account because I don't want to be caught up in this drama on my other. If this gets my main account banned, then so be it.

You've made no argument that shows why Nate should start over.

He cheated his way into trust, you can't put this any other way. We don't even know if he did this 'self-vouching' at a much earlier time, and this we'll never really know because he deleted a bunch of them recently.

Of course he probably wont do it again, because he already got caught. Once corrupt, always corrupt.

 

[Chriscross23]

He's legit. He helps the site. His endless contributions as an OMM, UE, and officisl guide verifier isn't enough? You're turning your own words around. You've made no argument that shows why Nate should start over.

He has no common sense or ability to defend his point because his whole argument is based on the fact that he wants to see someone else brought down harder than a temp ban. My assumption is he was banned for self vouching now he's a little upset.

 

Let the admins run a IP check on me. Im just using this account because I don't want to be caught up in this drama on my other. If this gets my main account banned, then so be it.



He cheated his way into trust, you can't put this any other way. We don't even know if he did this 'self-vouching' at a much earlier time, and this we'll never really know because he deleted a bunch of them recently.

Of course he probably wont do it again, because he already got caught. Once corrupt, always corrupt.

I've been TWC'd twice and demoted from being a mod. Your point about 'once corrupt, always corrupt' is invalid and shouldn't be mentioned. He deleted them, but it wasn't used as part of hs vouches. I believe he was selling a guide, but didn't have success, even when self-vouching. Although you're denying it, I feel that you just want Nate to be perm. banned.

@Chris, possibly

 

[Kamehameha x10]

Although you're denying it, I feel that you just want Nate to be perm. banned.

Thats not going to happen, so don't bring it up.

Once a scammer, always a scammer - once corrupt, always corrupt. I will bring this up countless times as it is more than just an opinion. Nate is getting a slight tap on the hand, as just a no-no for sticking his hand in the cookie jar before dinner. But in this situation, I believe that since he's a higher rank/respected member; he should be punished more-so.

 

Thats not going to happen, so don't bring it up.

Once a scammer, always a scammer - once corrupt, always corrupt. I will bring this up countless times as it is more than just an opinion. Nate is getting a slight tap on the hand, as just a no-no for sticking his hand in the cookie jar before dinner. But in this situation, I believe that since he's a higher rank/respected member; he should be punished more-so.

Either you're mixing your words around, or I'm not getting it; what do you want Nate's punishments to be? I've already given you the points and the facts for every argument you've made. I'm going to try and stop posting unless it's necessary.

 

[Kamehameha x10]

Either you're mixing your words around, or I'm not getting it; what do you want Nate's punishments to be? I've already given you the points and the facts for every argument you've made. I'm going to try and stop posting unless it's necessary.

I'm really having a hard time deciding if your being serious, or if your just fucking with me for a good laugh.

I stated countless times that he should get a bigger punishment of some sort since he is of a higher rank then the average leecher. I'm not going to repeat myself, if you would like to understand more go back a page and review.

 

[Chriscross23]

List of your vades:

amsunday, butthurt123, 2kewl4skewl, another sayain, eeee, lol make me more money, loyal contributor, took 30 minutes 2 deletme

 

[FireZ]

Thats not going to happen, so don't bring it up.

Once a scammer, always a scammer - once corrupt, always corrupt. I will bring this up countless times as it is more than just an opinion. Nate is getting a slight tap on the hand, as just a no-no for sticking his hand in the cookie jar before dinner. But in this situation, I believe that since he's a higher rank/respected member; he should be punished more-so.

obvious vader was obvious.

Anyways Haha and chris have both as well as nate had their troubles but you can damn well bet I still trust all 3 of them and will until they prove me wrong.

 

I'm really having a hard time deciding if your being serious, or if your just fucking with me for a good laugh.

I stated countless times that he should get a bigger punishment of some sort since he is of a higher rank then the average leecher. I'm not going to repeat myself, if you would like to understand more go back a page and review.

No. I'm not joking around, and I don't troll. Anyways, it shouldn't matter anymore since you're a ban evader.

(awaits next suggestion on 'less punishments for evaders".. now I'm having a good laugh)

 

[Brendan]

Ah. I was the one who originally posted him "Starting from scratch." The points that have been made here have given me a change of heart on my suggestion. There would be no point in removing his vouches. However I still agree that ranks should be removed, however he does have the right to apply for them again.