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kmjt

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For the first time in 623 orders someone has tried to dispute that I haven't sent them gold. I have gathered substantial evidence against the person so if PlayerAuctions sides with him and refunds him, I guess they aren't as safe as we thought. I will keep you guys posted on the outcome of the dispute.

Also some of you may find it ironic that his in game character name is Disputer XD

It isn't showing the disputer's first dispute comment however all it consisted of was him calling me a faggot, claiming that I didn't deliver gp to him, and demanding a refund.


Here is the email I had to send (some things blocked out for obvious reasons)..


Hello I am kmjt from PlayerAuctions. Recently I have been disputed by user "Controls" for 95m runescape gp. Here is the order ID:

Order ID:************

First, like I already stated in my rebuttal against his initial dispute argument, here are 3 pictures clearly showing I traded the 95m to the rs in game name "Disputer":


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The last picture shows that I indeed accepted the trade, giving him the 95m runescape gp.


His story COMPLETELY changes. In his first dispute comment he stated I did not deliver him any gp and just logged. Then in his new dispute comment, after he had seen I have picture evidence against him, he claims I "asked for the gp back." Honesty, this story is far fetched.*

The uploaded pictures in his most recent dispute comment actually prove that I delivered the gp to him, and he admits it. However it is completely untrue that I "asked for the money back." I also want to show how his pictures are PHOTOSHOPPED/EDITED. Look at the first picture here, the camera angle and position is the EXACT same as my second picture. Coincidence? No. He took my picture and edited the names. Look at "Candle Bear" and you will notice it was edited in because there is no shading on the letters like there should be. Here are the two pictures for you to compare:

My picture:
Screenshot2011-08-26at110600PM.png


His edited picture:
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Also notice how in his picture at the bottom where he edited in the name "Disputer" the quote box is far from his name. In a real picture the quote box comes right after the name.


Here is the msn conversation where he tries to give me bullshit about how I delivered to the wrong name. Notice how is msn email matches the "Buyer's Contact Details", so this is him I am talking to.

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As if he isn't sketchy enough at this point, his name on msn doesn't even match the name he has been portraying to you in his dispute comments.

MSN name: Bailey
Name portrayed on dispute comments:*Mario Barrera


As for the link in the msn convo. He changes his story AGAIN and tries to photoshop the picture to make it look like I delivered the gp to the wrong in game rs name. He edits the picture so it makes it looks like I am delivering gp to "Dsiputer".. notice the s is before the i. In my first 3 above pictures it is clear that I delivered the gp to the right name.

Fake photoshopped/edited picture from msn conversation:
Screenshot2011-08-27at34341PM.png


Notice how there is no shading on the name Dsiputer.

My real delivery picture:
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If you are not satisfied with this substantial evidence I took the liberty of creating an account with the in game name "Dsiputer" for you to play with. See for yourself that when you trade this name it doesn't appear how how his picture makes it look, because his picture is faked.

Login email: ********
Password: **********

The account is yours to keep for investigation.

Thanks,
LP/kmjt
 
Bro, always RECORD and archive your transactions if you can. Video evidence pretty much closes any dispute pretty quickly.
 
It has happen to me quite a few time and I actually lost a few but that's because I deliver to wrong name, I wasn't paying attention and name was similar. If you delivered to correct name they will side with you and send you disbursement, make sure you reply to the email regarding the dispute and attach the photos.
 
Wow that is so annoying. Makes me mad, even though its not my gold.


I actually had a guy claim I never sent him the money, "declined and logged out" I know for sure I traded him the money, I accepted really quickly, and because I had no proof (didn't take pictures) I could not do anything about it, plus he was threatening to give me negitive feedback, so I was forced to give him a extra 20m. Thankfully it wasn't 50m+ I make sure to record videos for every transaction from now on. Video is always the best way to go. I have hypercam set up at the bottom, ready for any trades done, and all I press is F2 to start it up, no need to get into paint, and copy and paste, and worry about saving. ^_^


Anyway, If PlayerAuctions sides with him, that'll be really upsetting.


Good luck on the case,
 
Good luck man, i never used PA but i heard its really safe to, will see how this gonna go. Gl once again :)
 
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I hava dispute as well, but I got my money when i sent them the delivery pic. what we shold do is make sure the rs name the buyer used to trade gold is the same with the one he put on PA. and taking screenshot of trading all the time.

@KMJT, ur case is really complicated. and your buyer too. I am speechless to him.
 
If his name is spelt "Disputer" Hes in the Dragon dyce cc. You should totally kick him :) :love:
 
I am well aware. Even funnier he put a bet on me with his blood money and didn't know it of course. I was glad to see he pretty much lost every single bet he placed lol.

Anyone else that has gone through this i'm stumped. In the event log it says "Dispute escalated by buyer" and the order status is "Dispute Pending Seller Evidence." However it isn't appearing under "requiring my action" and I cannot rebuttal on the site itself. Am I missing something, or at this point all I can do is send them emails?
 
You'll be fine ;)

Another question that has bothered me alot is what to do when someone gives a delivery name like lliilililiilii or 0oo0oo0o0o0... any suggestions? (hasnt happened so far, thank god)
 
You'll be fine ;)

Another question that has bothered me alot is what to do when someone gives a delivery name like lliilililiilii or 0oo0oo0o0o0... any suggestions? (hasnt happened so far, thank god)


When that happens I open up word and paste the in game character name. Separate the letters to distinguish what they really are and add that name in game.
 
I am well aware. Even funnier he put a bet on me with his blood money and didn't know it of course. I was glad to see he pretty much lost every single bet he placed lol.


Hahahhaah! Glad to hear, I saw that he was betting, but I wasn't paying any attention on if he was winning or not, would have been a laugh for sure.

GG on him. :nuts:
 
Yeah I video-record all my transactions, so much easier to submit for evidence

Hypercam -> F6 Hotkey
 
When that happens I open up word and paste the in game character name. Separate the letters to distinguish what they really are and add that name in game.

I'm doing that too, but what if they haven't got their friends chat on?
And even if it's on, its impossible to take proper screens etc ingame of delivery since you cannot disinguish the letters ingame..
 
I hate skemmers... o_O

Good luck on this. I hope PA comes through. If this were direct PP then the money would've been out of your hands already and the dispute closed. Again, good luck.

You could have also mentioned that it was fishy that the "proof" he provided was the exact same picture as the one you sent, except of course for the failed editings.
 
I'm doing that too, but what if they haven't got their friends chat on?
And even if it's on, its impossible to take proper screens etc ingame of delivery since you cannot disinguish the letters ingame..

It is very possible. Os and 0s are distinguishable in game, as well as I and l.
 
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