People on welfare. Lazy, or a reason?

The welfare system in america is a classic example of how there mentality works as far as so long as i have a roof over my head, a bed to sleep and food to live, then i dont care about everyone else, they can go die in a gutter. i thought we evolved more then to just leave peoples lives to natural selection, those who can get work will live, those who cant, die.
In australia we have one of the best welfare systems. also we have a medicare card and so we get free medical, we get sick, disease what ever we wont die on the street like so many in America do.

One of the main reasons why people are unemployed is that there are more people the jobs available, where i live, there isnt much work and when there is your competing with over 200 people for 1 position, so what your saying you dont care about the other 199 people?

dont put it down to people being lazy either, no one wants to be on the dole, in australia we get $228 a fortnight, you cannot live of that shit, its so you dont die inbetween jobs. also its not really free money. if your on welfare for over so many months you have to work for the dole, and you only get an extra $20 a fornight.

the kids out there saying, oh im 14 and when im older il never be on welfare im going to get a job. THAT IS EVERYONES PLAN! no one plans to go on welfare, it just can be alot harder to get work then you think, sure go work in a food stall for $50 a week, im sure youl be able to live off that.

 

I think welfare should be handled on a case by case basis. Its pointless to generalize.

 

1. When did you get back?
2. what are you talking about?

edit: so basically what you're saying is if you try hard enough, you get a good result? Isn't that practically just a corollary to life(and capitalism lol)? You get out what you put in?

 

Depends on the specific person and situation.

 

I think the current system is horrible. My daughter's mother lives on welfare, hasn't worked sense our daughter was born, and doesn't want to. Yet somehow she was granted physical custody, while I pay $420 a month in child support that she hardly uses on our daughter? I also work 2 jobs, and do internet things for extra cash on the side..

I think it truly helps some people in time of need, and it is nice to have there in emergency type situations for a limited time, but the current system is abused way too often and easily.

 

We need programs like welfare to help maintain the peace amongst the poor. You can't get welfare unless you need it so I believe it's absolutely necessary.

 

If your on it trying to get another job then I think its fine but if your planning on living on it then I think people should be taken off it.

 

This is a very very untrue statement. There are tons of people who are on welfare who do not "need" it because they are perfectly capable of working.

I agree with government help for those who need it, like SSDI.

 

Welfare should have standards lowered by alot, or the pay should be low enough to force anybody to work. Giving lots of extra money per child doesn't make much sense either, since anybody who needs welfare gets free lunches at school, and clothes and stuff are 6-month purchases.

 

If they are completely unable to work, for physical or mental reasons, then welfare is justifiable (in my view), although there are better solutions. In the current situation though, it is to easy to obtain. If you have a child, you will still come out ahead if you pay to put the child in daycare and get a job.

Perhaps they should offer the people on welfare the jobs that illegal immigrants are doing. If they don't want the job for minimum wage, maybe they would be motivated to find a better job, if the alternative was not eating, or living on donated stale bread and such (save the fresh fruits donated for those who are actually unable to work. Of course some people are physically unable to work such jobs, but if a less strenuous job is available that they are capable of doing, they should be put in the same boat of work or go hungry.

To directly answer the question: it is impossible to make a broad statement about whether people on welfare have a reason for it (besides their own laziness) because individual situations vary so much.