People complaining about Sythe MM's

[Dorito]

Guess what? MMing isn't as easy as you think. Yes, it doesn't require much skill, it's not like you have to study for it, or anything of that matter. But to resolve some things that do come up, IT IS ACTUALLY HARD.

MMing is always time consuming, but sometimes, it is hard aswell. Think when one party in the trade gives an invalid pin, or a valid one, yet he already has three in use. Think about when an account gets taken back, or one party states the account isn't what it should of been.

Although it's not hard in the sense of training for it. It is hard when you have to sit there, go through the pics you took, or go look at the threads. Trying to find out who is telling the truth or not.

Or when it's a mills for PayPal. When one says they sent it and the other said they didn't. You either have both parties take pics or you go on their accounts, same for pins like I said above.

It's extremely time consuming, and until you do it as long as some of us have, you have no idea what you are talking about, so don't. If you want to change something, then you can apply for official and show us up, I'm up for anything you have.

Good day.

 

[Kaybolt]

All thought i do now you get spammed at on msn, but you're the one that choose to become a mm, you don't have to. IF you become one as matthew said it's your job and duty. You should atleast mm 1 trade everyday or more.

Guess what? MMing isn't as easy as you think. Yes, it doesn't require much skill, it's not like you have to study for it, or anything of that matter. But to resolve some things that do come up, IT IS ACTUALLY HARD.

are you kidding me...then why did you become a mm?..for the rank..if you think mm'ing is hard then quit it..

and btw if the pin is invalid all you give the money back to the owner take a pic and send it to original guy, 1 min of work..

if account is diff from what it's suppose to be tell the other guy whose buying it and he wud decide..EASy

Who ever says mm'ing is hard Doesn't deserve the Rank, The fact is you Choose to become a mm and you HAVE to mm for us...or quit?..

THIS IS MY OPINION ONLY..=(

 

[SlaveOfTheBeast]

All thought i do now you get spammed at on msn, but you're the one that choose to become a mm, you don't have to. IF you become one as matthew said it's your job and duty. You should atleast mm 1 trade everyday or more.



are you kidding me...then why did you become a mm?..for the rank..if you think mm'ing is hard then quit it..

and btw if the pin is invalid all you give the money back to the owner take a pic and send it to original guy, 1 min of work..

if account is diff from what it's suppose to be tell the other guy whose buying it and he wud decide..EASy

Who ever says mm'ing is hard Doesn't deserve the Rank, The fact is you Choose to become a mm and you HAVE to mm for us...or quit?..

THIS IS MY OPINION ONLY..=(

No, stfu, your wrong. Official mm and highly trusted ones get bombarded by so many people asking them to mm. Usually at the same time. Some of us with crappier computers have a hard time loading paint.net and runescape, msn, pming you on sythe, etc. We have to mm for you? No, no we don't, because we have other stuff to do. And we're not losers who have nothing to do but mm for the thousands of sythe members that want us to.

 

[Dorito]

Slave is exactly right. Our job is to MM trades, although we ARE NOT OBLIGATED to do every trade or if it's extremely small.

Don't say I don't deserve the rank, as I've done my share of the work to get it.

Once again, you don't understand what I mean by hard. When you are MMing for two parties, which might both have the combined IQ of a dog, and they're both saying the other scammed. Trying to reason with them, and trying to do it in a professional manner, can be difficult.

Do you know how many times I have had the following conversation with people?

Person: i need u to mm
Me: I'm sorry, I'm busy at the moment, I might be able to do it shortly.
Person: fuk u noob
Blocks me.

You want to know how many? Probably atleast 10 a day. Then you get people coming along right after that, not being offensive, but demanding that we MUST MM for them. Considering 90% of the people that want MMs are like that, no, I will not MM for them. If they don't show me respect, I won't respect their request for me to MM.

Like I said before, you become a MM, then you can throw your accusations around. I'm up for the challenge.

 

[Fallen Soul]

I added every MM looking for some one and nobody added me besides Full Tilt. So the only official I can ever use is Full Tilt and only when he is online.

 

[Zypur]

I MMed a few trades on RSF, but I quit after. it gets annoying when people are asking you to MM every 5 mins, and you are busy.

MMs don't usually get all the respect they deserve. Sometimes I think they should be getting payed to MM. >.<

 

[Dorito]

I added every MM looking for some one and nobody added me besides Full Tilt. So the only official I can ever use is Full Tilt and only when he is online.

Sometimes the add request gets closed accidently, or we even accept it, yet it still won't show us online for you. Just because you don't see us online the second you add us doesn't mean we didn't add you back. I accept every single request I have, and my policy is to never permenantly block someone. So if you haven't seen anyone but him. Hint, add us again.

 

[Gone Fishing]

Seriously get off their asses already. If you really want to do trades then try to become more trusted and maybe they will be willing to go first, or get an unofficial, just make sure they're trusted and have been around awhile. Trades are not FUN to do, people are constantly making it more and more frustrating for the MMs that they just don't want to do it any more. Just be nice to them and maybe they'll WANT to do trades. Sometimes the fees are not worth it,,,

Just my two cents.

 

[Kelly]

The least they can do is accept the f/r on msn..
I made a new msn, added all the MMs and over the last 2 months i've only seen 2 logged in. I know for a fact they were online because I would frequently check my old msn.
I use un-officials for everything, but I do honestly think they're being a bit lazy not even accepting requests on msn..
EDIT: Saw what Dorito said.. well, I add loads of people and they all seem to come online.. maybe 1 or 2 the odd time but i've added over 100 people and I can say pretty much all of them added me and logged in, the officials never did, and I added them first.

 

[Conman3030]

All thought i do now you get spammed at on msn, but you're the one that choose to become a mm, you don't have to. IF you become one as matthew said it's your job and duty. You should atleast mm 1 trade everyday or more.



are you kidding me...then why did you become a mm?..for the rank..if you think mm'ing is hard then quit it..

and btw if the pin is invalid all you give the money back to the owner take a pic and send it to original guy, 1 min of work..

if account is diff from what it's suppose to be tell the other guy whose buying it and he wud decide..EASy

Who ever says mm'ing is hard Doesn't deserve the Rank, The fact is you Choose to become a mm and you HAVE to mm for us...or quit?..

THIS IS MY OPINION ONLY..=(

This tells me you don't deserve it, Once you have mmed as a official and get over 50 trades asked for you to do a day, and you take them all you can say what your saying now. But till then don't show your face on this thread again.

And for those of you who say no officials are ever online I know thats a bunch of bullshit, I'm on for at least 5hrs a day, and I know some others who are on for at least a few hours a day. So stop whining that we aren't mming, if you take into consideration how many mms we get asked to do. Us turning at least 80% of them down isn't bad at all. Some I know you guys think its easy, (what most people before they become officials think) but once you get asked to do all that you wouldn't have the same opinion.

 

[full_tilt]

This tells me you don't deserve it, Once you have mmed as a official and get over 50 trades asked for you to do a day, and you take them all you can say what your saying now. But till then don't show your face on this thread again.

And for those of you who say no officials are ever online I know thats a bunch of bullshit, I'm on for at least 5hrs a day, and I know some others who are on for at least a few hours a day. So stop whining that we aren't mming, if you take into consideration how many mms we get asked to do. Us turning at least 80% of them down isn't bad at all. Some I know you guys think its easy, (what most people before they become officials think) but once you get asked to do all that you wouldn't have the same opinion.

Conmans right, although the way he speaks it may sound like we do alot but in little bits, until you are an official mm you do not really know what you are talking about. The current mms in my opinion do infact do an adequate job given the nature of the work.

 

[0wn4g3_199]

yea but u guys vouching for other ppl and then they scam? wtf is that shit like u full tilt... proof in this thread?

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=2077071#post2077071

and middlemaning isnt even that hard... it shouldnt be after u have to go through all that shit to become official? it should become easier u think?

i used to help sin a while back and she did it soooo fast and easy and she was polite... u guys are all power hungry thats not only directed at the mms but also ppl who have vouches or overly posts... this is supposed to be a friendly rs trading community not a moderators dictatorship
(i was xx t x j xx back then)

 

[Macroman]

I agree thats its time consuming one time i had a willing mm stay on a trade for 3 hours. I cant remember his username but he was one of the best mm's

 

[Recnuob]

Even though im not official, im a trusted/ish mm and have done a fair few of trades, MMing IS hard and theres no doubt about it...

It doesnt help when people aren't cooperating or can't communicate well and people get very upset that the trade doesnt get completed in 2 minutes. Some people need to learn that an MM is there and is using their time to HELP you. so the least you could do is show respect and listen to them.

ALL mm trades arent that easy...
Alot of trades are time consuming or something gos wrong, And it's the MM's job to decide what happens in the trade so that both parties are not scammed or lose aynthing from it.

Another thing is, MM's cop alot of crap from people who get scammed by imposters or people who think that you are a scammer. Flaming MM's doesnt help, it makes us want to help you less...

MMing is our way of helping you, Alot of people want to become official so that they can charge the rates and get rich, but alot of people don't understand that its a hard/time consuming job which we are mainly doing to help you. It is our choice whether we do your MM or not. It is also very hard to do MMs when your swamped with 3 MMs at once...

Also ownage, i doubt that it would get easier after you become official, it would cut all the taking proofs crap out, but officials and trusteds DO get framed alot or people try and scam them, or people imposter them. so it gets VERY annoying. It's hard to be nice and polite to people when you are getting accused here and there

 

[x&#8313;]

Jesus i agree 100 percent. Even though i'm not official yet and still pending, i get people 24/7 MM PLZ PLZ OMGZ PLZ. My inbox is flooded with "get on msn!!". The other day a guy wanted me to do a 20m trade, i said "that'll be 2m, for the fee
". He then proceeded to cuss me out, calling me a selfish faggot, etc. Being a mm is really stressful, so all the complainers: stfu.

I wish I could charge money for every thread I locked, etc...

 

[Gluemanz]

I wish I could charge money for every thread I locked, etc...

IF that would happen..you'd be a millionare in here..

About sythe mm's..
Well people go for trusted mm's,not sythe ones,cause when you use non-sythe mms you will help sythe to get more Official MM's so everyone will be satisfied....
I think it has been mentioned before.

 

yea but u guys vouching for other ppl and then they scam? wtf is that shit like u full tilt... proof in this thread?

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=2077071#post2077071

and middlemaning isnt even that hard... it shouldnt be after u have to go through all that shit to become official? it should become easier u think?

i used to help sin a while back and she did it soooo fast and easy and she was polite... u guys are all power hungry thats not only directed at the mms but also ppl who have vouches or overly posts... this is supposed to be a friendly rs trading community not a moderators dictatorship
(i was xx t x j xx back then)

They don't vouch for scammers man. When they vouched for the person they weren't scammers. I don't see how you think that it's their problem if they vouched for someone and then they got banned for scamming! Can you see the future? Because I'm pretty sure everyone else can't.
Say you vouched for me, then I had a nice 16M trade that I'd like to scam on, and I did. You shouldn't get into shit because you vouched for me.

and middlemaning isnt even that hard... it shouldnt be after u have to go through all that shit to become official? it should become easier u think?

Middlemanning itself isn't hard. It's the time consumption that it wrong with it. Before they were official only a few people added them with trades. When they finally got Official they had hundreds even thousands of requests every week or so. If you were an official MM on your email and you had people starting conversations and adding you every five or ten minutes asking you to MM. What would you say to all of them. I know I wouldn't be able to handle them all, same reason why Official's can't handle them all...

 

[Dorito]

Well, there's been some talk about fees, but before this does get said. WE DO NOT MM FOR THE MONEY. I get people who come on MSN and say MMs are rich because of fees, etc. Trust me, no official MM does this because of fees.

As to the person who brought up imposters, very good points. Do you know how many times a day, I get people on MSN or people sending me PMs on here saying, GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY YOU SCAMMER. I get atleast a few a day, and that's a lot considering.

People get scammed by imposters constantly, and who do they blame, EVEN AFTER the fact that they found out it was an imposter or someone using imitate on MSN, the real MM. How is it our problem? It's not our problem you thought our msn was [email protected], it's not our problem the SN was i-scam-alot, and it's not out problem you were dumb enough to fall for it.

Like it's been said before, unless you've MMed the quantity of MMs some of us have, you can't even begin to understand where we are coming from.

I get around 20-30 add requests DAILY on MSN. Combine that with the hundreds, if not a few thousand people I have on my MSN, that is a LOT of possible MMs.

 

[Gunn0r]

Conman i Remember seeing you trying so hard to become an MM now you complain about it. I guess you get a lot of MM's, but the MM's that were elected by the staff got exactly what they wanted TO MM! There only complaining about what they want. It what people do you WANTED to become an offical MM so live with it,

 

[Dorito]

We aren't complaining about our job, so don't say we got exactly what we wanted. We became MMs to MM trades, good job, nice connection there.

What we are complaining about is the lack of respect or even lack recognition of how much work we are doing, let alone the MMing itself.

People think MMs are honestly lower than the average noob. I'm not saying we are some special almighty person that is higher than god, but what I am saying is we deserve just as much respect as someone else.

I get people who come to me and literally DEMAND I MM a trade for them, and of course, if I don't. I get cussed out and blocked.

Oh and today was a great day. I got cussed out by someone who got scammed by an imposter of full_tilt. Now tell me, why should Dorito get cussed out when someone is dumb enough to get scammed by a full_tilt imposter? I have no idea, but I guess it made that guy feel good.

The main point of this thread was to address the respect issue and activity issue with MMs. I get conversations like the one above. I get trades were the guy cusses me out and says he doesn't trust me yet 20 seconds after that he asks me to MM his trade? We get treated like we are nothing, and then when we don't respond back, or say no to there request, it's like we broke a rule or a law.

We DO NOT have to MM every single trade requested of us, get it through your heads. I'm also quite sure that just like I and most other MMs do is if you show us no respect, or demand our service, I will NOT MM for you, as you don't deserve to be MMed by us.