Owned1992 Dispute

[Jamie92]

I am owned1992, I made this account because I lost owned.
I was banned for something I said in my introduction thread:

My name is Jamie and I'll be 18 years old in 2 months. I am not new to sythe at all, I started coming here and lurking around in late 2005. I joined in 2007 with the account Jamie33 which is now banned for multiple-accounts. I came to sythe to sell a membership pin that I had. I was scammed out of that pin by a guy named "Stef" for 1M rsgp. Well, he and I started talking and he wanted me to join his 'scammer team'. Basically, he wanted me to find people buying things on sythe for RSGP and he would act like an MM whose e-mail was not shown(tehbluephat, if you remember him). He and I scammed over 15M rsgp before we were banned. Well thing is, we talked for like 2 weeks and were friends. Until one day he managed to make me give him my gold and scammed 10M from me. I had nothing left + was banned from this site. I came back to sythe and created a new account just to pay everyone I had scammed back(this was done 2+ weeks after I had scammed). Me and x D00m x partnered on selling pins and we sold 300+ together. Until one day we were both banned for multiple accounts.
This is just a little explanation about me being here at sythe before

My Ban reason is:
Ban evading:http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=884417


Firstly I would like to say I was 13 and 3/4 upon the date of my scamming. Secondly I would like to say I paid everyone I had scammed back.
The most proof I have of that is:
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=205153

After I had re-paid everyone back, I came back to site as a trusted member to sell pins. I was banned for multiple accounts, which is no longer a bannable offence.

I would just like to point out before a mod/admin tells me "We do not allow scammers on our website."
I am not a scammer, at the age of 18 you are a lot maturer than you were at 14. I have, on owned1992, over 30 vouches, which I don't see really even matters. It's that maturity should be a reason to redeem yourself in a situation like this. I would really like the mods/admins to think about my dispute before coming a final decision.

I am currently trusted with a hefty amount of cash from Roy/Pokemoners2. I even still have his cash, but even being banned I will not steal it from him. I'm a very loyal person to humanity... I'm a libra if that helps. I'm too kind. Scamming isn't my thing; respect is.

Please do contact Roy about this if needed - I will not post how much I am trusted with publicly.

I felt leaving that information in my introduction was more of a sign of honesty and loyalty to the community.

I'd like to see the response to my dispute and if possible it be thinked upon before a decision is made.

Thanks.

 

[Louis]

I don't think we let people who purposely scammed back. Maturity has nothing to do with it either.

 

[Jamie92]

I don't think we let people who purposely scammed back. Maturity has nothing to do with it either.

Maturity has a lot to do it.
A 13 year old doesn't have the same brain mentality as an 18 year old.
A 13 year old would be more likely to scam as they are more immature than a person whom is 18 years old.

I think the older you grow; the more respect you have for people. Everyone learns more about things as they grow at an older age.

Also, I may have scammed but I re-paid everyone that I had scammed back. Which is why i was banned for multiple-accounts, not scamming.

 

[Louis]

No, I mean it doesn't matter what age/time you scammed, you're a scammer and that's a perm ban. If you're hacked you're given the option to save your account by refunding the victim(s). + you ban evaded etc

 

[Jamie92]

No, I mean it doesn't matter what age/time you scammed, you're a scammer and that's a perm ban.

I am not a scammer, do you see any reports on me in the scammer report section? No.
You are judging me from something that was 4 years ago where as I am grown up now but yet you still be un-lienient to the situation.

I wasn't even banned back then for scamming; I had paid my dues within a week after the scams. A scammer is not a scammer if they paid the person back. Had a change in heart. A change in mind. A change in respect and maturity.

Please try being more lenient, Louis. I'm seriously banned for something I did at the age of 13 and now I'm 18? I mean come on. Everyone here knows I'm not going to scam them. Ask roy, he can tell you. He's trusted me with pretty much ALL of his money, which I won't share with publicy.

But honestly, should my ban be even a perm. Atleast a temp, market ban, trade with caution?

Some of the people I scammed weren't even all my doings; At one point I was hacked, theres proof of that in the thread above ^. I even paid them back.

 

[Louis]

I am not a scammer, do you see any reports on me in the scammer report section? No.
You are judging me from something that was 4 years ago where as I am grown up now but yet you still be un-lienient to the situation.

I wasn't even banned back then for scamming; I had paid my dues within a week after the scams. A scammer is not a scammer if they paid the person back. Had a change in heart. A change in mind. A change in respect and maturity.

Please try being more lenient, Louis. I'm seriously banned for something I did at the age of 13 and now I'm 18? I mean come on. Everyone here knows I'm not going to scam them. Ask roy, he can tell you. He's trusted me with pretty much ALL of his money, which I won't share with publicy.

But honestly, should my ban be even a perm. Atleast a temp, market ban, trade with caution?

Some of the people I scammed weren't even all my doings; At one point I was hacked, theres proof of that in the thread above ^. I even paid them back.

Yet you premeditated, performed a scam and ban evaded, that doesn't make you worthy of trust. You can't use your age as an excuse.

 

[Jamie92]

Yet you premeditated, performed a scam and ban evaded, that doesn't make you worthy of trust. You can't use your age as an excuse.

I am not using my age as an excuse. Im using nothing as an excuse.
Maturity is a FACT. Scamming at 18 is completely different than scamming at 13 - that's a FACT. Our brain develops as we grow.
As children, our intentions are/were childish, fooled by unawareness of consequences.


Why are you being such a jerk about the situation?
Everyone here knows I'm not going to scam, seriously.

I'd like to see a more lenient answer.

Also, don't close this because I'm coming off as an asshole, I think a user is entitled to his own feedback as much as a Mod is.

 

[Louis]

I am not using my age as an excuse. Im using nothing as an excuse.
Maturity is a FACT. Scamming at 18 is completely different than scamming at 13 - that's a FACT. Our brain develops as we grow.
As children, our intentions are/were childish, fooled by unawareness of consequences.


Why are you being such a jerk about the situation?
Everyone here knows I'm not going to scam, seriously.

I'd like to see a more lenient answer.

Also, don't close this because I'm coming off as an asshole, I think a user is entitled to his own feedback as much as a Mod is.

What I'm saying is stop bringing your age up as defense. We've never in the history of this site taken the age of the individual as a reason to let them stay, so stop bringing it up.

ANYWAY, I'll let another mod answer this since I can't unban.

 

[Skele]

We don't allow scammers and ban evaders back into the community.