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OMM Recovery Checks? Do we need it?

Almond Joy

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I honestly think that buying/selling is acceptable but with the need of having an OMM to do a recovery check is outrageous. Because as the oMM checks if you give " full info " to an account you're Selling, the " Buyer " will think that " oh this guy gave me full info and I think its safe because i'll just hack it back". From a buyer's point of view, You're already risking that the " Seller " won't recover the account but he gives full information, the OMM won't hack your account if he does a Recovery Check but this could be avoided by simply not HAVING a recovery check. So yeah both the trade goes out smooth, the Seller never recovers the account but uh oh... the OMM just got banned on sythe and jacks all of the accounts that he's done using recovery checks here in sythe but what are the odds? I havnt done research on if any OMM's been banned here but there has to be at least 1-2. So if that really happens, whose to put the blame on when the buyer's account is recovered since the oMM knows info and the seller knows the info So that is just my assumption/opinion about how I really don't like recovery checks. I honestly think that we don't really need a Recovery Check because its a waste of time for the Seller and that at any time under circumstances, the buyer might just flake or something you never know.

My way around " recovery checks " is this simple step of buying/selling.

For Runescape ONLY
Once theres an agreement with the Buyer and Seller and an OMM.

Buyer gives " Currency/RS2GP or Virtue Money " to OMM


Seller and Buyer goes on " TeamViewer" with the buyer.

The Buyer watches everything the Seller does

The seller writes all the info on a notepad

The seller writes an Appeal " Recover a Stolen Password "

The Seller Copy and Paste every single information and add it to the appeal.

The Seller Finishes the Appeal and then copies the tracking # and so should the buyer too.

The Buyer now waits until it is accepted, knowing that the account info is valid.

The MM gives money to the Seller when the Appeal is Accepted.

Trade Completed
 
The way you showed how the trade could be done seems pretty easy to do and is more secure.
However, I highly doubt that an OMM would scam various accounts.
From what I have seen in my few days here at Sythe, I've noticed that only one OMM has ever been banned.
Regardless, a recovery check/test isn't mandatory here at Sythe.
 
It's a necessary measure, account are recovered way to easily, and the original owner can normally recover it without a sweat. If there isn't a proper recovery check, there really isn't a point in buying any account, as it could just be recovered at a whim.

If they've gained the Status of OMM they are trust worthy enough to have your accounts information; otherwise you would't be using them in the first place.
 
Give me two good reasons why the OMM would recover it back. They're OFFICIAL for a reason. I understand this about free MM's, but for OMM's I wouldn't think there should be a problem, yet this shouldn't even occur. As long as you know who you're picking to do it, then you should be fine.
 
imo this a recovery check is competely pointless due to the fact that even if you have all the info if i was orginal owner all i would have to do is email the jagex parent email and they would wipe everything to do with you off the account then once i recover it even with the correct info it wont let you recover
 
Aroxez said:
Give me two good reasons why the OMM would recover it back. They're OFFICIAL for a reason. I understand this about free MM's, but for OMM's I wouldn't think there should be a problem, yet this shouldn't even occur. As long as you know who you're picking to do it, then you should be fine.
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1. Just because they're "OFFICIAL" doesn't mean they're tempted by the same things we all are. If they're banned, they could easily go and f over sythe, no matter how unlikely.

2. They would recover it back to get the wealth on the account, in say like, 3 months? -.-"

Personally, OMM's shouldn't be thought as untrustworthy, I would use them for any large trade and in almost all account trades because of the ease of recovery. But saying that b/c OMM's are "official" and therefore "infallible" is a little too much.

I like the idea stated by this thread owner, however, and find it just as safe if not safer than using an OMM.
 
Heidy
Easter 2013
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OMM's have gone through that rigerous process for a reason, to keep sythe users safe. Usually, they have more to lose then a few hundred bucks on the site. Also, most OMM's aren't just on sythe to make money, they're here for the community, and the OP / Poster above me questioning their intentions in this way is an insult to the work they've put in.
 
Heidy
Easter 2013
Lawrence
Also, after reading your post more thoroughly. If the OMM's have to accept the paypal payment, they're at risk of chargeback. Not only the risk of chargeback, but the risk of paypal limittation. As you should know, paypal has been limitted tons of paypal's atm, so for an OMM to have to go through this, seems unsafe and unpractical.
 
Wouldn't doing anything with accounts be risky? Due to the fact that YOU ARE giving all the information to the MiddleMan, whether or not the information is true or false, it would still be risky taking a MiddleMan to do trades. That's why I stay OUT of the account section (other than to report posts).
 
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shortperson said:
imo this a recovery check is competely pointless due to the fact that even if you have all the info if i was orginal owner all i would have to do is email the jagex parent email and they would wipe everything to do with you off the account then once i recover it even with the correct info it wont let you recover
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Is that really what jagex are doing right now?
 
A little fact about account trades. Provided you have the original information to the account you can recover the account whenever you please. No account is ever, be it 1 week 1 month 1 year it can always be recovered.
 
You idea takes too long, too time costly, and you still can't verify that they are imputing specific information. None of us force you to do a recovery check, hell none of us force you to use a MM/OMM.

Don't like it? Don't do it.
 
I like the idea.
However.. if you give the account information to a OMM, and they get hacked.(computer hacked)
There goes the account information.

If the account gets recovered, there is no proof to see WHO recovered it, could be the OMM, could be the seller. There will be no proof (Not even with "Last login as", ip changers.)


The few accounts that I MM'd, I let them know that I am not going to accept the account information, as it's not my responsibility if you're going to buy an account with not enough information. Always ask what information is being included. Ask for a recover test.


I did a recover test, well I was in it.
I sat in the chat, and waiting as the recovery was being accepted/denied.
The information was correct, just missing the creation details, the two traders agree'd that it was fair enough. I gave the gold, done.
 
Buying/Selling RS Accounts have always been risky. Accounts can be recovered and recoveries aren't always 100% success even if you know a substantial amount of information.

Regarding an OMM hacking every account he reco-tested is highly unplausable, insanely time consuming, and I'm sure Jagex would find it fishy that one ip address is trying to recover 100's of accounts.
 
IMO they are a waste of time.
Plus where you are recovering from has a big effect. If you bought an account from someone in the UK and you are US, your chances of recovery IMO are slim.
 
Buyer gives " Currency/RS2GP or Virtue Money " to OMM
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That's the step I have a problem with. What if the buyer is using Paypal? And then disputes/chargebacks the payment? The OMM is out however much money the trade was for. Not a good idea.

Besides, what's wrong with the current system? How many OMM scamming accounts have you heard of?
 
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