Should Guns and other Weapons be Banned?

United Nations has agreed with USA to bring foreign Troops to our country and take all weapons from us ? whatsup with government ignoring our Rights?

Government wastes to much money in Spying and Useless Wars that have done nothing than cause more wars

http://www.infowars.com/foreign-troops-to-confiscate-american-guns-under-un-treaty/

http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-un-gun-treaty-does-ban-guns/

Its 3am lol so i dint really put everything good will add more

 

Well I will begin by saying your source isn't of journalistic or even reliable integrity. It is clearly highly biased and whoever wrote that article is a crack pot. You should find better sources.

 

Alex Jones is not a crack pot lol

ill rather listen to him than CNN

 

There is a huge difference between reliable news and opinion based journalistic sensationalism. What you have in those articles are sensationalist claims that aren't backed by any fact and are only based on a loosely weaved series of irrelevant factoids. This Alex Jones guy is trying to make something out of nothing by using pieces of information out of context. Just like anyone familiar with writing persuasive nonfiction knows how to do. I can contextualize anything to make it say what I want.

 

Why can't there be a limit to how many guns a person can have? Shouldn't they have some type of database which monitors how many guns a certain person has purchased? I mean, if I saw a guy in his young twenties who had already purchased a pistol, rifle, and whatnot I'd be concerned.

To prevent guns completely will never work. First, you can't prevent people from buying hunting shotguns - and those can lead to some gruesome deaths. Second, people will object that they need guns for self protection.

However, for the places that do sell guns (including online and delivery packages), is there any way that all purchases are monitored in some national database which contains records which are unique to every person with a license to hold guns? I'm not sure if it's currently like this as I do not live in the states at the time being (and to be frank, haven't researched it either), but I don't think it would be a bad idea.

 

right now their is so many people buying all ammunination they can get their hands in ...my friend gets calls from near states asking for ammo

 

No, guns are pivotal for one to exercise their right to self-defense. The government has no business in further restricting the liberty of its citizens by enforcing gun control. It's quite contradictory that anyone who would go against this would have the government threaten them with a gun!

 

laws should be same as uk i think

 

what does that have to do...lol

 

Gun control. Well taking guns away from innocent people is NOT protecting innocent people. If gun control is to work, every person should be issued one gun. As a requirement that person must keep that gun for protection. And learn to use it for protecting themselves. Then the "bad" people would lose their lives, not their guns. And then all the "bad" people who would use their guns for "bad" things wouldnt be a problem, as they'd all just be bleeding out on our front porches. Simple as that.

@BatMan: In the UK guns are 100% illegal. the cops dont even carry guns.

@106: yeah fuck that. Guns are fun, beautiful, creations. And you put a 100 pound man getting robbed by a 250 pound man, he has no protection. You give them both a gun, the 100 pound man has just as much of a chance of surviving and preventing the robbery as the 250 pound man has of succeeding. If everyone owned one hand gun, the odds of robberies, murders and etc would be 50/50 and the smaller, the weaker and the pussies would all have a chance to protect themselves from people my size who chose to use their size as an advantage to taking what isnt theres. simple as that. Weapons are needed by all. Cuz if a 100 pound man was robbing a 250 pound man and the 100 pound man had a gun, the 250 pound man would have a very slim chance of stopping the robery and still coming out unharmed. if they both have guns, its a 50/50.

Remember the "old west"? that was almost a form of anarchy. With show downs, shoot outs and outlaws doing w/e they wanted. This would indeed be a problem if everyone owned a gun cuz people would just gang up like they did back then. But honor and respect are important. If the world still had that then the "gun in ever hand" idea would work perfectly. As the sheriff never shot the outlaw in the back, and vise versa. Honor, respect. Those are 2 very important things. I am an Anarchist. But I do not believe in "chaos" I believe in life without a government telling you what is legal, what is illegal. But with the lack of honor and respect in todays world, Anarchy would be only one thing. A bunch of bitches and pussies and shooting people in the back and ganging up on one another.

If the world had honor and respect, Anarchy would be the best way to go. We would have people who builds houses, thats all they do. And people who gather food, thats all they do. The people who builds, would build a community. The people who gather food, would do just that, for the entire community. And each community would be on their own. But no community is perfect, there will always be those who step out of line. The Anarchy I believe in would have the community decide what to do with the ones who step out of line.

Example: You catch someone breaking into your house. You restrain them. The community gets together and decides the punishment. If the community decided upon it, this person is to be nailed to a cross and burned alive for breaking into a house. Thats what that community decided was a fit punishment, thats what tht community will do and then people will think twice about breaking into a house wont they?

I have been told my belief of anarchy such as this, is called Anarchic-Communism. I do not know if thats what it really is, but if thats how the world worked, a gun in every hand and a clip in every pocket would work just fine. But the world's different communitys or towns, or cities, w/e would have to be willing to work with each other, respect each ohter, and honor each other. So no, in todays world yeah maybe guns should be banned. But either way, they wont be taking my guns without a fight.


Edit: I got way off track there. But the point is. I love guns, I will not give up my guns without a fight and if the world had more respect and honor instead of rats and bitches there would be no need to even consider banning guns.

 

Yes, they should be banned, guns are devolped to harm people or animals which is bad in my opinion.

 

I personally think guns are generally bad. So many innocent people die everyday from gun-related crimes, senseless shootings from psychos who just went to a shop and bought an assault rifle.

Look at the batman screening shooting that happened a couple weeks ago, 12 people died and 58 injured, because of such open gun law that allowed a random young male to go purchase body armour, an assault rifle, a shotgun, a pistol and gas-bombs who then proceeded to bust into a cinema and spray into the crowd without any motive towards the victims.

You should need a very SPECIFIC and JUSTIFIED reason to own guns in my opinion. It sucks that innocent people have to die everyday for no reason because anyone is allowed to own and purchase such destructive weaponry, theres no control, its just "here you go, please don't kill anyone, I'm trusting you" sort of approach, its not good enough.

Im very glad i live in the UK.

 

What are the gun laws in the UK?

If I'm not mistaken, there was a story once of a guy who went on a shooting spree in his car in the UK. The police finally cornered him, where he eventually shot himself.

 

Even if guns are banned, you'd still be able to find one if you really wanted to shoot someone.

Guns are allowed in Belgium, but you need a license, and they do a thorough background check. If you shoot someone with one, even if they were aiming a guy at you, you'll still go to jail probably though. Police officers here have been sentenced to jail for shooting armed robbers who were actually trying to kill them. Meh.

 

People cant just get guns that eazy (unless you know people in the blackmartket) they have to go tough background check and go to gun school

The Law isnt just any "open gun law" its the Second Amendment [Right to Bear Arms] 1791

 

There is no such thing as intrinsic value. Intrinsic value holds that certain objects are good or evil irrespective of their context. There is the a performative contradiction as you try claim that certain objects are intrinsically evil, as your rationale behind these objects is the context they are used it. You are essentially saying that guns are always evil no matter the situation because look how people use them.

For example, is water intrinsically good? Considering it's a necessity for life. The answer is no, tell that to the people with a tsunami approaching them that water is intrinsically good.

That situation was bad due to the initiation of force, murder. The guns were used in a bad way.

Let's take this first from a theoretical perspective. The claim that it is acceptable to force people to do what you want is nonsense; you are forcing people to have a specific reason to own a gun. On a practical side. You are right in saying that innocent people die everyday, but the truth ends their. Innocent people die everyday due to the initiation of force, that this is carried out through a gun is not a good argument. Knives could be used instead, I don't suppose we should ban them now, should we?

Also, what about police officers or people in the army? I'm sure you would give them special exception to have an intrinsically evil object, right?

Gun Control is ridiculous, and exemplifies the quote "the path to hell is paved with good intentions".

 

I am a huge gun fan and I love to shoot for sport, but I do believe that there needs to be stricter control over guns. Currently it is so easy to just walk into a place and buy a gun with no qualms about it from anyone and that is too easy. Guns should be available for those responsible and mentally capable of having guns. Some people don't need guns because they will use them to commit acts of violence not out of self-preservation.

 

Im not 100% on what the actual law is regarding guns here in the UK, all i know is its VERY rare to ever see them, you need to have authorised clearance to possess one, so your literally just talking military personnel/special forces etc.

Ive only ever seen guns once in my life and that was once at Gatwick Airport, there was some special force's looking guys hanging around the mall keeping an eye out with assault rifles.

People are not aloud them, strictly illegal, never even see police with them.

 

You find guns in a damn dumpster in the US, there's literally so many. Because of that there's a lot of incidents. I'd like it to be banned because it can control so many situations along with people. It's really sad

 

Guns never gonna be banned unless they remove our Second Amendment