Naughty Folt :3 (Name Sniping Report)

Scammer's profile link: Folt
Explanation of the trade: I sold the RSN 'Funeral'. The buyer decided to transfer the name themselves.
How they scammed: Folt sniped 'Funeral' when my buyer tried to transfer the name. He claimed that the owner of 'Funeral' left the RSN stagnant, so he picked it up when it expired. So a name sitting on a throwaway level 3 (not as a previous) is considered as being left stagnant? Okay.
Proof that it's their Discord: https://i.imgur.com/B65gWBR.png - Folt#2960 (he's listed it here before: Folt Disputing ban)

So, I reported this a while back when it first happened, but it seems like a public report might be necessary. At the very least, people can see that Folt has yet to change, and continues to snipe names.

In my previous report, I tried to include as much information as possible to be thorough, so I'll try to be short and sweet with this one in case the other one was too long to read... (@video)

To start, I had been selling the name for at least over a week before Folt "acquired" it. Here is the first time that I mentioned it in Sythe PM: https://i.imgur.com/jAZQrtk.png?1
As you can see, it was first mentioned there on August 30. I had it a bit before that, so I may have mentioned it through Discord even earlier than August 30, but I'm not going to bother searching through old Discord messages when August 30 should be early enough to show that I was selling it far before September 9, which is when Folt admitted to acquiring it. Mods/admins, feel free to look through my PMs for several mentions of me advertising the name as being for sale. I included more screenshots in my report to @Hahanerd and @video, but I want to try to condense this report.

Here is the first mention of 'Funeral' to the person that bought the name: https://i.imgur.com/GzaewnP.png?1 (dated September 6)

After waiting 2 days, we agreed to 80m 07 and he'd be doing the transfer himself. Here is the buyer messaging me about the name being sniped about 30 minutes after selling it: https://i.imgur.com/zQovqKB.png (dated September 8)

Funny enough, the next day I hear that Folt is selling the name. Proof: https://i.imgur.com/B65gWBR.png (dated September 9, 1 day AFTER it was sniped)

Here Folt mentions how the buyer "royally fucked up the transfer": https://i.imgur.com/L32HnJ8.png
I was going to try to reason with him before my initial report, and part of doing so was him asking for screenshots of the old level 3 that the name was on. I got the info back from my buyer so that I could show proof of that account and try to work something out.

There's a longer version of this that was reported to @Hahanerd and @video, but maybe making a public report can help finally get this taken care of. And if not, at least people can see that Folt, the man with infinite chances on this site, is still going strong sniping names.

Folt Disputing ban
^ Nice appetizer of bullshit, will be interesting to see you wiggle out of another one.

Anyway, if more information needs to be provided, just let me know. @video maybe you can check out what I sent to you and @Hahanerd for more as well.

Thanks @Milotic and @Pendulum for convincing me to report this publicly. I didn't really want to have to deal with it, but it's better for something to be done about it rather than let a snake and compulsive liar stay in the community. He should have to pardon (yet again) like anybody else.

 

Hey there,

I’m flattered to see that through peer pressure you’ve decided to put the energy into making such a thorough report about this.

When you contacted me on the day that I picked up “Funeral” I was very surprised to know that you were claiming that I had sniped the name, obviously because I had picked it up through legitimate means. To be honest I had no idea that you were selling the name. I’ve never once contacted you before or even asked anyone about what names you had for sale, that was of no interest to me. The main course of action when I heard that you sold the name and that your buyer had lost the name through an attempted transfer was that I wanted to collect the pieces of evidence showing that was in fact the case. It was very hard for me to believe someone lost it that way because the name was available for around 3 or 4 minutes! Even though this was true, out of goodwill I was eager to return the name if there was supporting evidence presented proving that what you were claiming was true.

It was hard for me to hold a good conversation with you because I was replying to you on discord from my phone while at work, so I had asked you to provide me with some screenshot proofs while I was busy and I was going to check them out when I had the time. I had asked you to send me a couple of screenshots, one of the current name in the game, and another with the time stamped proof of name change from the website.

You sent me both screenshots, which was great; however, the screenshot you sent me was from a name change that happened on Monday September 4 at 23:35 BST, and the date you were claiming you changed the name was Saturday September 9 at 4:15 BST (when i took it). These dates did not match up. I left you a message about the discrepancy between the proof you sent me and the date that I took it.

Why did you have to falsify your evidence? If what you are claiming was true we could have resolved this together and I would have given the name back right away (despite the fact that I had rightfully taken it), it should have been so easy to sign back onto the right account since our conversation took place only about an hour after the time you claimed the transfer happened.

In summary here are the things that are true based on facts:

• You falsified your evidence
  
  
• You weren’t able to provide legitimate evidence after I challenged your fake evidence
  
  
• You are assuming that just because I own a name that it was sniped.

I've read through you comments in full and I understand your side of this and appreciate your concern, but please help me understand the validity of your report given that you are making claims based on assumption without supporting evidence.

If a moderator would like to see the screenshots that Closer has sent me on discord I am happy to provide those in another response.

Thank-you.

 

Incorrect. As someone involved with names sales, I would assume that you'd actually understand how free name changes work.

Here is the screenshot that I provided you with in our conversation: https://i.imgur.com/FmkJUPK.png

For the record, when names change with bonds, the time for a new change is 24 days, NOT 28 days. As shown in my screenshots above, the name was sold on September 8th, and the free change is available on October 2nd. That is, oh wait, 24 days later!

I have another name that I sold just this morning, and it says that the free change is on October 21st, which is, ummm, 24 days past today! (can send a mod the timestamp for that account if they'd like, but not posting it here as the name I double changed to is revealing to the name that I just sold). Funny how that works out, eh? So, it looks like my screenshot matches up perfectly well. Not only is it the proper 24 days since selling on September 8th, but look at the portion that says "Member until...". The date there is September 22nd, which is 14 days from September 8th (which is when it was bonded to be sold). Accounts need membership to double change their names, after all. And how long does the membership from bonds last? Oh right, 14 days.

If you'd like to dispute my claim here, I'm more than willing to not only show several other timestamps for names that I've sold since then, but I'm even willing to pay for the bonds to show a mod firsthand that it's 24 days

I'd be down to provide the bonds, then I could either take a video of me changing it then showing that timestamp, or have a mod that's willing access a throwaway account and change it themselves so that they can see that it's 24 days.

So the next time you want to claim my proof to have been falsified, at least back it up with why you think it's false. I'm willing to provide proof that bond changes result in a free change after 24 days, are you willing to provide proof that it's 28 days?

Lastly, I don't care that you claim to have taken it the morning of September 9th. It sold on September 8th and the timestamps in my discord messages match up to that.

So, knocked out the first point there. My evidence matches perfectly, and you're trying to lie about how free name changes work to make your point.

For your second point, I stopped bothering to deal with you because of what I just explained. You're trying to lie your way out of it already, so it's better to just report this and let the mods look everything over rather than try to work it out directly with a snake.

For your third point, of course I'm assuming that you sniped it. I understand the market, don't get me wrong. I know that sniped names get passed around and all that, so it's not fair to blame someone for sniping a name just because they own a name that was at one point sniped. That's just silly. However, this was 1 day after the name was sniped that you claimed to own it. And you didn't say anything about purchasing the name, you made the claim that it just happened to be available for you to take it. A name that was just sold and sniped, just happened to be available for you to take it the next day? I call bullshit.

Thanks.

 

Regardless of number of days, your time doesn't match up for the name change. It shows 11:35PM BST.

This isn't a claim. I can prove this.

Wrong

I could have been wrong about the number days, I don't study these procedures as much as I used to, I just know the timing is definitely wrong and doesn't match up with when i created it.

You stopped because you knew your evidence didn't match up with my creation time.

My replies have nothing but concrete facts which I can prove with legitimate evidence.

This is true.

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If a name is completely out of your hands and control, how could you possibly know what happened with it the morning after it was sniped from someone? Maybe whoever sniped it intentionally changed it twice and made it available the next morning? Just like you, I'm not entirely sure what happened with it besides the fact that the name was available to take, and I took it.

 

I'm just curious if you had no knowledge of the name ever being sold, or up for grabs, then what would make you somehow stumble upon it in the small 3, or 4 minutes that it became available? Also I am curious did you have a stop watch until you accepted the name change?

 

Since the name has been returned to the "Buyer" I am going to close this report. Although @Closer you did a wonderful job on how you got it back, there is not enough evidence to support he sniped the name. I have spoke with Folt and he has showed me a massive amount of evidence to support his claims (Private) I have let upper-staff review this evidence and we have came to the conclusion it is enough to believe his side of the story. I am sorry this incident has happened as always name sales in general are always extremely sketchy. But overall good job on getting the name returned. I am sorry more could not be done in this situation.

If you guys have any additional information, or would like to contact me feel free to contact me on Discord or Skype.