insanekid50
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My religious paperhey guys! this is just a religious paper im writing...i have written this in 1 night, so there is plenty more to come, and even more to edit. Im not sure if this is supposed to be in the "something for all section", because the point of this is to get feedback (good,poorly written?), not cause a debate, though im sure it will.
If you want to know my religious views:you could say that i am an atheist/i use reason to look at things.
ALL IDEAS ARE MINE,AND CAME FROM MANY THOUGHTFUL HOURS
Heaven
Either there is no such thing, or there is, but the Christian view of it is wrong. Most Christians can agree that Heaven is a perfect paradise, with no flaws. Though this is NOT true. Every persons view of paradise and harmony are different. Some may think of paradise being a place with murder everywhere, and some may think of it was a place of love and peace. Another example: A man and his wife are riding in a car together. They get into a fatal crash, and both are killed. The man goes to Heaven, though the wife is sent to Hell. Now this man is alone. If his view of Heaven includes his wife, then this means Heaven is NOT perfect, as he will never have contact with her, and she has no possible way of going to him for eternity. How can a place be perfect if every being has there own definition of 'perfect'? It simply cant.
God
This is pretty much the main topic. On God....most views of a god are of a divine creator. He created the universe and all that we know. Because we have no EXACT definition of god, we cannot prove or disprove.
One example: You can say there is no god because you cant see him, but then someone may say he is invisible.
Cant touch him? He's intangible.
A man may say, "I have looked all over Earth, and found no god, so therefore he does not exist."
You may counter this with, "god does not reside on Earth, but in another part of the universe."
"I have searched the universe, and found no god, therefore he does not exist."
"God doesnt reside in the universe, but in another dimension."
My point is, you can prove/disprove without a solid definition. You can keep pushing back the defintion forever, saying he resides in a different place everytime you search,or saying that "my religion's deity is different than yours". But if you can have a solid definition you can narrow it down and finally prove or disprove it.
An example: If you define god as living, it does not define where. The world,universe,another dimension? But if you give a solid definition, such as "God is living in this box.", you can discover a final truth. You can conduct tests on the box, search the box,and come to a final conclusion. "I have found a god in this box, therefore a higher being exists." Or something like "I have searched and tested this box, and i have found nothing, therefore god(s) does not exist."
Example 2: A test of this theory. In this case ill use this definition of god;"God is the final judgement of souls". If we can disprove the existence of souls, this would also disprove the existence of god.(In this case/definition of god.)
If god is defined as 'supernatural',than he is not natural. Anything that is not natural is either man made or does not exist. Thus you can resolve that god is either man made or does not exist.
Healings/Prayer
Prayer is a common way to communicate and ask favors of god. Some believe it does or does not exist/help/work. We can do thousands of tests. You can pray for a raise,and its either you get the raise, or not. Its a completely random outcome, though when it works in your favor, people say it is the work of god, not luck.
You may have 100 people pray for a man with illness, and it may work or not. Yes, it may work most of the time,but it is again random. If it fails and the man dies, you may hear the arguement, "god does not want to heal certain people or get involved". But does he not heal people all the time? At religious rallies around the world, people falling to the ground in tears because they are "enlightened"? Every person at this rally experiences that, not just the people that god decides to help. And when was the last time an amputee was healed because billions of people prayed for him? No matter what,since the existence of time, this has not and will not happen, because it is simply impossible.
ADDITIONS/EDITS***********
If god is omnipotent and eternal,then he knows what he is going to do at ALL times. You say the universe is 13.7 billion years old. yet if god is eternal, that means that he has existed for trillions and trillions of years. so why does it take him trillions of years to create the universe?That means that it was just god sitting out in nothingness for that long,even though,him being omnipotent, he knew he would make a universe and heaven etc.? and if he had created nothing,he could not be there,since he is the cause for himself.
If god is omnipotent and all powerful, that disproves prayer,since he knows that you will be hurt in the first place, and knows exactly when and where you will be healed. this means that your prayers have NO effect at all, since everything is known ahead of time
you worship god to get to heaven, but once you there u just worship him more and for eternity, so there is really no purpose or meaning at all.
MY UNIVERSE THEORY. There is a universe just like ours. Suddenly, a star supernovas, and turns into a black hole. This black hole attracts all matter, and soon the area around it is nothing. Then other stars supernova,and those black holes attract eachother. Soon all the black holes are attracting eachother and crash into one GIANT black hole. Inside of this single,huge black hole is all the matter of the universe.(This is the ball of matter that is used in the big bang.) This huge ball becomes EXTREMELY dense, and it begins to attract the black hole. The black holes falls into itself, and all the matter is released in a giant explosion (the big bang?). This explosion creates the universe yet again, and the cycle is restarted. This would prove the universe a cycle, and cycles are never ending, which means the universe is eternal. If the universe is eternal, and god is eternal, god could not have created the universe.
If you want to know my religious views:you could say that i am an atheist/i use reason to look at things.
ALL IDEAS ARE MINE,AND CAME FROM MANY THOUGHTFUL HOURS
Heaven
Either there is no such thing, or there is, but the Christian view of it is wrong. Most Christians can agree that Heaven is a perfect paradise, with no flaws. Though this is NOT true. Every persons view of paradise and harmony are different. Some may think of paradise being a place with murder everywhere, and some may think of it was a place of love and peace. Another example: A man and his wife are riding in a car together. They get into a fatal crash, and both are killed. The man goes to Heaven, though the wife is sent to Hell. Now this man is alone. If his view of Heaven includes his wife, then this means Heaven is NOT perfect, as he will never have contact with her, and she has no possible way of going to him for eternity. How can a place be perfect if every being has there own definition of 'perfect'? It simply cant.
God
This is pretty much the main topic. On God....most views of a god are of a divine creator. He created the universe and all that we know. Because we have no EXACT definition of god, we cannot prove or disprove.
One example: You can say there is no god because you cant see him, but then someone may say he is invisible.
Cant touch him? He's intangible.
A man may say, "I have looked all over Earth, and found no god, so therefore he does not exist."
You may counter this with, "god does not reside on Earth, but in another part of the universe."
"I have searched the universe, and found no god, therefore he does not exist."
"God doesnt reside in the universe, but in another dimension."
My point is, you can prove/disprove without a solid definition. You can keep pushing back the defintion forever, saying he resides in a different place everytime you search,or saying that "my religion's deity is different than yours". But if you can have a solid definition you can narrow it down and finally prove or disprove it.
An example: If you define god as living, it does not define where. The world,universe,another dimension? But if you give a solid definition, such as "God is living in this box.", you can discover a final truth. You can conduct tests on the box, search the box,and come to a final conclusion. "I have found a god in this box, therefore a higher being exists." Or something like "I have searched and tested this box, and i have found nothing, therefore god(s) does not exist."
Example 2: A test of this theory. In this case ill use this definition of god;"God is the final judgement of souls". If we can disprove the existence of souls, this would also disprove the existence of god.(In this case/definition of god.)
If god is defined as 'supernatural',than he is not natural. Anything that is not natural is either man made or does not exist. Thus you can resolve that god is either man made or does not exist.
Healings/Prayer
Prayer is a common way to communicate and ask favors of god. Some believe it does or does not exist/help/work. We can do thousands of tests. You can pray for a raise,and its either you get the raise, or not. Its a completely random outcome, though when it works in your favor, people say it is the work of god, not luck.
You may have 100 people pray for a man with illness, and it may work or not. Yes, it may work most of the time,but it is again random. If it fails and the man dies, you may hear the arguement, "god does not want to heal certain people or get involved". But does he not heal people all the time? At religious rallies around the world, people falling to the ground in tears because they are "enlightened"? Every person at this rally experiences that, not just the people that god decides to help. And when was the last time an amputee was healed because billions of people prayed for him? No matter what,since the existence of time, this has not and will not happen, because it is simply impossible.
ADDITIONS/EDITS***********
If god is omnipotent and eternal,then he knows what he is going to do at ALL times. You say the universe is 13.7 billion years old. yet if god is eternal, that means that he has existed for trillions and trillions of years. so why does it take him trillions of years to create the universe?That means that it was just god sitting out in nothingness for that long,even though,him being omnipotent, he knew he would make a universe and heaven etc.? and if he had created nothing,he could not be there,since he is the cause for himself.
If god is omnipotent and all powerful, that disproves prayer,since he knows that you will be hurt in the first place, and knows exactly when and where you will be healed. this means that your prayers have NO effect at all, since everything is known ahead of time
you worship god to get to heaven, but once you there u just worship him more and for eternity, so there is really no purpose or meaning at all.
MY UNIVERSE THEORY. There is a universe just like ours. Suddenly, a star supernovas, and turns into a black hole. This black hole attracts all matter, and soon the area around it is nothing. Then other stars supernova,and those black holes attract eachother. Soon all the black holes are attracting eachother and crash into one GIANT black hole. Inside of this single,huge black hole is all the matter of the universe.(This is the ball of matter that is used in the big bang.) This huge ball becomes EXTREMELY dense, and it begins to attract the black hole. The black holes falls into itself, and all the matter is released in a giant explosion (the big bang?). This explosion creates the universe yet again, and the cycle is restarted. This would prove the universe a cycle, and cycles are never ending, which means the universe is eternal. If the universe is eternal, and god is eternal, god could not have created the universe.
