Market Manipulation Again

[Shire84]

Offenders Profile Link:
Alex
AchillesOSRS (since he runs the discord)
HanChulo


Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: A L E X#3971, 771964619401068565
Proof that it's their Discord: https://i.imgur.com/Bsk6ouE.png
Explanation of the trade: No trade, two users are advertising the same name while having threads in the same section aka market manipulation
Other relevant trade screenshots:

Alex/Achilles server is advertising two names while having two threads up in Name Sales, this is market manipulation and not the first time they have done this.

[ Selling ] Clean 7 Letter RSN -- HINT: Donate to a _____.
[3'000$ DONOR][ 1000+ Feedbacks! ] ALEX's NAMES SHOP + TRANSFERS! [#1 Runescape Name Seller]

https://i.imgur.com/Bsk6ouE.png
in a public channel here in their discord they are advertising the name Charity (don't delete because its literally a public channel in their server) this has been going on for 5 days now without incident

This is not the first time they have done this. See:
Name issues they got away with it here for some reason
Alex/Achillesosrs banned here for it before

 

Good evening,

While yes it seems that we have an issue with the RSN being posted twice on Sythe, once advertising our discord, and another by HanChulo the fun doesn't stop there.

First, I'd like to start with our ToS stating VERY clearly that we do not allow users to post their name on Sythe.
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"For the duration that your Runescape Name is listed in our discord ( 〔〕community-sales ) you may not advertise it elsewhere. Whether that be Sythe or other discords. Listing in other locations may result in a Sythe report/Removal from this discord. If you choose to delist, you may not relist elsewhere or advertise the name for 14 days afterwards."

While it is unfortunate that this situation occurred it was beyond our control. When chatting with the owner of Charity, he told me had previously asked for his friend to list it which unknowingly lead to this situation.
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Once this matter is resolved I will be removing the owner of the name and delisting it from our discord. For the time being I will leave the name up for clarity in this report.



I do apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused, unfortunately even with cleanly laid out rules clearly this sort of thing can happen. I will double down on the reminders by including a private message via our Discord Bot reminding them, upon listing, they agree to these rules and highlight the cross-posting rule once again.

Thanks for the time as always and I hope to see this resolved soon.

 

[Shire84]

Are you TOS very clear? Were they directly stated in DMs to the user because having them in some random channel in your server can be easily missed. That's why Sythe has rules in place that a TOS must be agreed directly to in other areas of the market in DMs

This was definitely in your control, the dude was bumping his thread for days while you were also and you somehow failed to notice, thats why this is a repeated issue with you guys. You guys don't even enforce it lol

Alex stressed in the other report @Nemesis made that he would insure this would never happen again. What exactly has changed? You say you will double down but the last time this was brought up you said the same thing so no you havev't changed anything. If you can't prevent this from happening you should stop selling names for other people. You guys make the same excuses here and this is obviously a very reoccuring issue

Name issues

 

"Are you TOS very clear? Were they directly stated in DMs to the user because having them in some random channel in your server can be easily missed. That's why Sythe has rules in place that a TOS must be agreed directly to in other areas of the market in DMs"

Please read through the sell here channel of our discord. If you had spent as much time snooping looking for a report as you had reading our rules clearing stated in the channel required to post. As well as to post there is a button you have to press that says you agree to the ToS stated. We have logs of everyone that agrees to said ToS to post AND there is a reminder not to cross post right there.

Here's an example:
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If that is not looking out for the interests of Sythe and avoiding being the cause of market manipulation then I don't know what is.

We cannot control every users actions. Mistakes happen, and this one is not ours.

 

I'll leave the rest to the Sythe staff members. I believe this will be pretty cut and dry.

 

[Shire84]

Damn the salt is real, lmao, my guy you have made this mistake multiple times it didnt take much snooping around to notice once again you guys breaking the rules and being naive. My point still stands were they directly told by you or alex? Exactly, either way your negligence to follow the rules is showing, at the very least selling names for others should be prohibited or you may find yourself in this dilemma frequently especially considering the fact you don't enforce shit

 

Damn the salt is real, lmao, my guy you have made this mistake multiple times it didnt take much snooping around to notice once again you guys breaking the rules and being naive. My point still stands were they directly told by you or alex? Exactly, either way your negligence to follow the rules is showing, at the very least selling names for others should be prohibited or you may find yourself in this dilemma frequently especially considering the fact you don't enforce shit

Lol I know who you are, you don't need to hide behind a fresh sythe account bud.

We have our entire system + TOS set up so the people who are listing their names with us AGREE not only once... but TWICE!

No need here to go ahead and say we go around breaking the rules and not giving a F....



You're simply trying to slander our name, just like the very exact same report we had 6-8 months ago.

 

is @HanChulo an employee?

 

Hey @Pirate, no they are not.

 

[Shire84]

Brother you can't keep breaking the rules and saying fuckey wuckey sorry it wont happen again i pulled an oopsie woopsie everytime and complain about "slander" and flexing your ego further

Doesn't matter if you have all this TOS shit if you don't enforce it, its that simple, without enforcement your tos crap is meaningless

 

@AchillesOSRS is indeed protected by his tos, even though many of yal may believe its bullshit that he's getting away without a severe consequence his tos states that the sellers can not list the name anywhere else. Though this would make the original owner or in this case @HanChulo responsible for the market manipulation. Though i wont apply a TWC to him for this instance i just want it to be aware that i could TWC him for market manipulation but i dont believe he purposely intended to manipulate. @AchillesOSRS If you could add to your tos that if the user goes against your tos and lists elsewere that they will be held liable and will be punished accordingly on Sythe if it is found/repoeted. Thanks